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And thats how you get people to join you as a comunity know every thing down. Way to lead guys.
Why do you try to change peoples beliefs and tell me I am wrong to do it?

Please show me where I tried to change someone's beliefs... I clearly addressed both sides in my post hence the part where I said "same goes for those saying god doesn't exist". This is fairly simple concept to understand. Nobody cares. Nobody will ever care. So why keep arguing just for the sake of arguing? It'll just get you nowhere and only creates hostility.

who really gives a shit about this topic???

I'm kinda interested to know how people still believe in such things in the 21st century.

God created the world. Jesus respawned it his tomb (or at his cross? not sure about the story). There's a heaven and a hell.

I mean I respect people but deep in myself I can't stop thinking you must be pretty retarded/naive to believe in God with all the knowledge that's available nowadays. Sorry if I offended someone

OK I copy pasted Spankys post from the other thread to here. For the sake of derailing.

^^ This is why my replies have been dwindling in this thread. We've had these discussions before and they get nowhere.

You might have. We never. We may have touched on this in very little terms. This is the first thread I started on this.
Really difficult bring pearls before swine. As you can see the pearls got trampled.

The only things I have to say are this;

- Provide proof god exists.

There are many proofs I gave you an infinite number that forcast Christ was coming and you struck it down as crap with no concideration what so ever. So you are no prepared to even look at it. Nothing more I can do there.

It's not about convincing others to believe,

In your opinion its not, from your understandin. Im my opinion it is all about telling others.
OK to opposing  opinions.
You think theres no God and it doesnt matter if your correct.
I think there is a God. If I am right there is a problem. Theres a heaven and hell. If you believ in Jesus you go to heaven. If you dont you go to hell. Thats a problem. So I want to tell others how easy it is to avoid going to hell.
Thats really simple. Its either your right or I am. At least in this disccussion anyway.

it's about ending religious conflict in the world. Wouldn't god/Jesus want you do help your fellow man and make the world a better place? If you say no and it's not your job to convince others or prove anything, that's a total cop-out like religion in whole.

Where would you get an idea thing like that from. Let me tell you the heart of God thats where. That is the heart of God. Peace. He sent His Son to destroy the woks of satan. So how does it work? Adam was created in Gods image as you quoted. Adam was told dont touch the tree of good and evil. satan tempts eve, lies to her she eats. Adam sees it . Eve doesnt die. Adam knows God says you will surly die, So adam was not decived but desired knowldege. Now hes hiding cause he knows he naked. Any way. So adam by disobaying God has ineffect gave dominion of the earth over to satan. satan is the ruler of the air. God said to dsatan in ther book of Job. All he has (Job that is) is in your hands. Meaning you are ruler of the earth. Jump forward. Jesus ambushes satan by dying on the cross. satan thinks hes killed the messiah and its over. Christ raises from the dead. sucker punch. Now he is ruler of the earth and has all power on the earth and in heaven. So Christ gives us this power to take dominion of the earth again. Many have missed it, the church only has salvation to offer. abd they also think it is the most importabt thing. Its not what Christ died for . He was wipped at the post for our healing right now. But we dont walk in it yest cause the church has missed it and does not understand it. He died for the remission of sin for us. He paid it every one is forgiven now. Its paid for now. Church says it but still fails to grap it in its entirity.
We are now free. God doesnt look at any man with disdain. He sent His Son to take the blame . So if He would send his Son to suffer for you, Theres  nothing he would nt give you. Nothing!!!
So why all the suffering why all the pain. Man has free will. God will not break His word ever on anything. We have free will. But we say why didnt God stop the war/hitler? God cant He never lies He never turns. If God interupted hitlers will then hes a hypocrite. He cant. The whole world suffers like child bearing pian waiting for the sons of God to mainfest. Who are the sons of God Believers. Full gospell believing believers. Who will take over were Christ left off. Healing the sick raising the dead casting out demons. Then the world will know that there is a God who loves themn to the point where He sent Christ To take the sin away from us and resore us to our original created value. Thank you Jesus.

It's all about relinquishing control on your life and blaming a higher power for your problems.

It is all about relinquishing control of your life. Bang on:) Christ say no greater deed can you do than lay down your life for another. Hes telling us lay down your life make your self last, make others first. make the lowest first.
In here right now people are calling God all sorts of things because the church has given a very bad impression of what God actully wants

- Provide a reasonable argument as to why we need religion/god. If you can't provide proof, at least provide a legitimate reason as to why people need it. Using it as a crutch in life isn't a legitimate reason.

I already told you Isaw people healed completly. The sick need healed and people in general need set free from the physical,mentel torments. This site is full of hurt people who hurt people. We all need set free from the shit we are sitting in every day of our lives. Cant you see the depth of mans depravity in the last 50 years?

Seems you missed my question ted? Did you miss it. Not a difficult one.

I didn't miss your question, I dismissed it.

I didn't miss your question, I dismissed it.

To hard ok  np.

To hard ok  np.

No matter how you try to rationalize it to yourself, what you're doing here is trying to get others to read the book you have read.