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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday, May 05, 2013, 08:34:24 AM »
A good anticheat would be for the best.

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday, May 05, 2013, 11:01:27 AM »
A good anticheat would be for the best.
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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday, May 05, 2013, 14:40:40 PM »
Nice job eliz, personally i would like it to go to 2.8.5, as for the issue with the mods. As far as i can recall towards the end of aa 2.8.5 wasn't there a fair few servers with mods on? Or is my memory drawing blanks on me? ATM do you know what are the %'s of ppl using assist that are not using windows? Catch 22 really, although the thought of 2.8.5 would have the potential to attract more players to come back, it would seem unfair to the peeps that are using assist on other platforms and also to the original creators of assist whose idea was to keep a version of the game alive on multi platforms. This coupled with the fact that aa4 is being developed, if aa4 was to be a hit, then all this hard work may ultimately be for nothing. Good thing though if eliz wants to put in the work along with assist staff and community, if down the line it doesn't seem like the viable way to go, you always have the current assist to fall back on. But iam assuming that for all the work that is likely to be involved, it would be hard for any developer to fall back on something they have but alot of effort into.

Just my 2 cents (or pence being British)

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday, May 05, 2013, 20:30:08 PM »
Might I suggest keeping 25Assist going for mac and linux only. But force windows clients to upgrade to 28Assist.

While a good idea, that would pretty much kill Mac & Linux. There's hardly enough players to have fun as it is. When you make those 10 players that aren't on Windows play by themselves, they'll just give up.
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Offline ELiZ

Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday, May 05, 2013, 23:17:33 PM »
If we proceed, of these 2 options, what do prefer?

1 Downloading the full 2.6 GB that is the 2.8.5 Client?
2 Download 1.5 GB, but spend 2 minutes afterwards unpacking the files in a special way that enabled the 1.5 GB?

I think option 2 would be faster on most systems.

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #35 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:05:19 AM »
does the MD5 stay the same with the faster method?
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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #36 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:09:34 AM »
After download and unpack/Fix, yes.

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #37 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:17:45 AM »
After download and unpack/Fix, yes.
really, interesting :D
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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #38 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:20:40 AM »
If we proceed, of these 2 options, what do prefer?

1 Downloading the full 2.6 GB that is the 2.8.5 Client?
2 Download 1.5 GB, but spend 2 minutes afterwards unpacking the files in a special way that enabled the 1.5 GB?

I think option 2 would be faster on most systems.

Pack it as hard as you can with 7z just like it is now but make sure to use the multi-core command line switch.
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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #39 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:22:37 AM »
Pack it as hard as you can with 7z just like it is now but make sure to use the multi-core command line switch.

The Special way I mention, is just not hard 7z packing, but rather removing some of the package encryption that prevents proper packing, and then after download add it back on.

Offline ELiZ

Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #40 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:30:40 AM »
This is what I mean:

http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aa25assist/Data/AA285/tst.zip
Unzip, and run UnPack.cmd

This is the full 2.6 GB EUdaily download, only thing removed is AASM(15 MB).

Nothing of the Assist Server/Client is included, It's just a vanilla install of AA285.
« Last Edit: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:41:24 AM by ELiZ »

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #41 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 00:37:01 AM »
Quote
This is what I mean:

http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aa25assist/Data/AA285/tst.zip
Unzip, and run UnPack.cmd

This is the full 2.6 GB EUdaily download, only thing removed is AASM.

Nothing of the Assist Server/Client is included, It's just a vanilla install of AA285.
ELiZ getting Pro into warez techs :D
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Offline ELiZ

Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #42 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 01:37:42 AM »
I did this test:

With the special Fix, downloading from sourceforge with maxing my download:

Code: [Select]
Downloading 00:13:55
7z unpacking 00:02:15
aaFix 00:02:25

Total 00:18:35

A similar download, but with the full Download 2.6 GB
Code: [Select]
Downloading 00:24:07
7z unpacking 00:02:15

Total 00:26:22

So in my case I'd save almost 8 minutes with the special way I described.

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Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #43 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 01:56:36 AM »
Something to think about though, would that decryption be able to give hackers an edge? Being able to stop your tool mid-way before it re-encrypts and then looking at source code or something? Just a thought.
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Offline ELiZ

Re: Assist moving to 2.8.5?
« Reply #44 on: Monday, May 06, 2013, 02:01:59 AM »
The full packet encryption mentioned here is just the first 2 layers that is used by the AA devs.

I described this layer's encryption more than a year ago here:
http://aao25.com/general-chat/guide-for-converting-game-assets-from-america's-army-2-8-5-to-america's-army-2-5/msg14485/#msg14485



 

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