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Offline Bart!

Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #330 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 13:08:39 PM »
Quote from: phuNkiii.ops on Thursday, December 04, 2014, 10:43:56 AM
i mean people now rushing with PSO and B slot on ambush in WW to wait for people to rush into hospital and theyre getting easy kills lmao.. Good job removing 203s and making the game worse with removing the only counter play
So the PSO and B got more useful again, which is good I think. And people can also try shooting them back before running into the hospital, there are a lot of options :)
I actually saw an improve in gameplay dynamics, more action and more different things being tried to stop the vip, since some players are now hiding less. But maybe that is my point of view.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #331 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 14:04:22 PM »
Quote from: Ganja on Thursday, December 04, 2014, 13:03:52 PM
How can people complain about being spammed from West Wing ... When I play escort, I go in the bushes and shoot the spammers, simple, after 2 rounds nobody dares to spam anymore, problem solved.

Now there's more teamwork needed from escort to smoke etc, and ambush needs to push a little harder and thus get out of their camping spots if they want to kill the vip, it's a good compromise imo

I doubt that's true though.

OK so I see the 203 is actually removed, but you can still put a timelimit where 203 and or nade spam is not allowed :P I assume that's for all maps seeing as hospital doesn't have 203 at all I thought if you set spamprotecttime203=0 to maybe 10 instead of zero you would actually be allowed a 203 on your sf but nope :P
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #332 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 14:22:06 PM »
Quote from: phuNkiii.ops on Thursday, December 04, 2014, 08:47:06 AM
Removing and changing the weapons just cause you dont like is lame. Hospital was fine as it was. Now you cant 203 WW roof, the escort side can easily smoke underpass and vip can just rush outside without worrying to be blown up. Its fucking retarded.
Why dont you remove the G from bridge crossing too? omg i got blown up in first 20 seconds please remove im trash at this game and cant use brain to take cover from obvius spots that get spamed with g at start..

devs reduced the amount of 203 shells from initial 7 to 3, cant remember the year exactly. that was quiet a good change for the bridge-gameplay, also for mountain pass etc.
i think changes to encourage a gameplay based on teamwork to be successfull is the right way. i like it, if u have different options as a team. in my opinion reducing the amount of sf-guns with 203 drastically and adding a few normal grenades in the mix (for example for the if-guys) could have also been a solution to revive gameplay...
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #333 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 15:15:38 PM »
Quote from: teddy_grizzly_bear on Thursday, December 04, 2014, 03:57:31 AM
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It's been discussed before. There's been attempts and "fixing" the roofbug in the past. The players didn't like it.
The problem with it is, that it's not really a map specific bug. It's an engine specific bug. And there's nothign we can do to change the engine.
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Q: What kind of problem?
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #334 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 15:18:22 PM »
Quote from: NoBigDeal on Thursday, December 04, 2014, 15:15:38 PM
Q: What kind of problem?
It's an issue where a player will be occluded despite being in view. It happens in a few different maps, probably something to do with BSP but it has nothing to do with anti-portals.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #335 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 15:23:17 PM »
Definitely it's a BSP error - snapping vertices should fix the problem.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #336 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 15:59:02 PM »
I don't think I've ever seen shoddy dev work on the official maps. There was one thing in the original Pipeline map that was bad but it was fixed later. Everything's aligned to grid. I'll check it again later to make sure but... I don't know.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #337 on: Thursday, December 04, 2014, 17:45:29 PM »
Check the gaps in the brushes around the suspected area - especially custom made ones.
Also, anti portals can not extend beyond the brush. You can check this by zooming out (to max) top-down window and moving the map around - some parts will disappear when antiportal is visible.
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