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DON'T HATE MUSLIMS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DO BAD THINGS.
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Really ..? Then I have bad news for you: over the last century, they are playing the lead role in terrorism ... especially don't tell me, that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism all over the world.

I come from a Catholic family - a very traditional one, but ... In the nineties, I was part of UNPROFOR in Ex-Yugoslavia and I saw what people can do in the name of God - and they were not some sporadic fanatics ... it was the entire nations. Once we found something, what even media wasn't allowed to publish - don't ask me what kind of insanity I saw ... Enough said, that at this day I stopped believe in God. Believe me ...



Now as an atheist I believe I have more respect for God and His believers than believers among themselves - regardless of religion.

You came from catholic to atheist? wow have no more comment.

I've been raised as a catholic myself, but have always been told to be open minded and choose what I believed in, rather than believing what my parents did. I chose to explore several religions and cultures and found out that it all seems ridiculous to me. Especially as most of the religions are all based on the same things.

You came from catholic to atheist? wow have no more comment.

He gave you the comments on why he did it.

The bottom line is that it's wrong to attack someone in ANY manner for what they believe or who they are.

It's ok for me to believe that any religion is a fucked, idiotic, caveman-esque view on the world. But if I attack someone for believing that way, that is wrong. Whether I bully them, hit them or kill them.

Why is it wrong? Well, morally, it's good to be nice to people. Also, a persons beliefs, opinions or physical attributes have little reflection on their character. That's the only thing you can attack or applaud someone for, their character, how they carry themselves in a day to day life. You call someone out for being an asshole or you thank someone for being kind.

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Really ..? Then I have bad news for you: over the last century, they are playing the lead role in terrorism ... especially don't tell me, that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism all over the world.

Genocide in Eastern Europe was terrible and I feel for all the victims, their families, and those like you who went in and saw it as it happened. That was terrorism.

RIGHT NOW, genocidal violence and terrorism is occurring all over the globe and not only by Muslims against non-believers. It's happening in West Africa, where the elites and government ignore human and organ trafficking and murder rates skyrocket. It's happening in Myanmar, where Buddhists (only by name, not practice) are wiping out an entire nation of Muslims. There, Islam only makes up a small percentage of the population but fears that Muslims are taking over (the same fears seen in this thread) drive genocide. Look at Syria, Gaza, and Yemen where Arabs are the victims of terrorism.

Just because the news obsesses over brown-on-white violence doesn't mean it's the most common. What about Boko Haram killing thousands this week? Nobody cares? More concern over a handful of racist French cartoonists? Only American and European lives matter?

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This thread reminds me of the DRAAT forums

By the reports, all the terrorists are dead. Two brothers has been killed and the innocent civilian that they were holding is alive. The other terrorist who attacked the store has been taken down( his girlfriend escaped), 4 innocents civilians died there.

Just because the news obsesses over brown-on-white violence doesn't mean it's the most common. What about Boko Haram killing thousands this week? Nobody cares? More concern over a handful of racist French cartoonists? Only American and European lives matter?

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This thread reminds me of the DRAAT forums

You're talking about people being on a high horse earlier yet you come in here believing you're better than us just because we're talking about an act of terrorism that happened in a country that doesn't normally get terror attacks?

You know damn well why it's getting more coverage. Or maybe you're just ignorant, so I'll explain it to you. Europe and the United States are not used to this kind of violence. Africa has been experiencing that kind of violence for a long time. Yes it's worse, yes, it's tragic, but it doesn't have the shock factor because it's been happening for so long. It's the same reason why police killings here in the U.S. get more coverage than the numerous killings in, say, Chicago. Yeah, a hell of a lot more murders happen in the slums of Chicago than police shooting people, but police shootings are much more rare, thus it gets more attention. I'd also like to add that people are more concerned when trouble is much closer to them. Africa is far away, both physically and socially. but a developed nation like France? It's much closer to home than Africa. We can identify with the French much more than with those in Africa.  It may not be fair, but that's the way the world works.
This is not necessarily a bad thing either. If we were to mourn ever loss of life equally, we'd all be emotional wrecks unable to live our lives. So in the words you used earlier, get off your high horse. We're just talking about the attack, you didn't need to turn this into a human psychology discussion. The only person trying to turn this into a draat style flame war is you. Just let people mourn this attack and move on.
 

Okay keep parroting the same statements we've all heard time and time again, enjoy that discussion. Only flaming I did was toward the Army dude and I wasn't alone in that. Just because you think Africa and Middle East are so doomed we shouldn't even discuss terrorism there doesn't mean I agree. Or I guess I could take that discussion out of the Charlie Hebdo thread. Would you prefer if I made a thread for each and every terrorist action so as to keep our mourning compartmentalized?

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For what it's worth, I thought the DRAAT forums had pretty good discussion. Lots of differing viewpoints and hot topics = lots of angry posts, but I thought that was okay. Herrmoo and scandii made my day countless times with their no-nonsense posts.

I actually didn't think you meant anything bad by saying it looked like DRAAT forums. But I guess Killaman disagreed. And I don't believe I ever visited DRAAT forums, so what do I know, huh?

Now Scandii... there's a guy I haven't spoken to in a long ass while. Apparently he's the president of ESN Boras or something now (I checked on facebook). I think it's Erasmus Student Network or something.