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Correct, but as soon as you employ fallacies yourself, you lose the high ground.

Care to point out where I did that? I'm seriously curious, not trying to act like a douche or anything.

theres only 1, if u belive why don't u give a chance to ur self, yeah, to ur self, because you without  are nothing, but God without you its still God.

he created us all free, he has power to control us, but hes not an invasor, hes at ur heart door, but u need to open, so he can enter.

Don't tell me that's the kind of poetic crap that fooled you into believing without evidence. And don't think I'll let that hint at Pascal's Wager slip by.

A long time ago I believe I made the strongest religious argument and someone put it on postquote.

I like to think about what would Goku or Jesus would act in a situation.

A long time ago I believe I made the strongest religious argument and someone put it on postquote.

I remember that.

I can basically sum this up as "You're crazy, therefore I'm correct." Even if you are correct, trying to make an ass out of someone isn't going to prove your point. In addition, not everything Grapes has said was necessarily wrong, it just wasn't presented well. There are problems in the US, but the real debate should be about how bad it really is. He can say it's shit all he want's, but he doesn't know what shit is.

Let's turn the discussion back around then. What are the problems in the US? Everybody list them one by one to see if we agree on a few things.

I can basically sum this up as "You're crazy, therefore I'm correct." Even if you are correct, trying to make an ass out of someone isn't going to prove your point. In addition, not everything Grapes has said was necessarily wrong, it just wasn't presented well. There are problems in the US, but the real debate should be about how bad it really is. He can say it's shit all he want's, but he doesn't know what shit is.

I wanted to make a joke and make a point at the same time. I can say a bunch of crazy stuff without proof too. It adds nothing to the conversation.



As for the problems in the U.S.

- Corrupt Government
- Too much corporate influence in politics
- Student loan crisis
- Too much national debt

-Military involvement
-Media
-Two party system
-Federal Reserve
-Aid to other countries
-Zionist agenda pushed
-Capitalism in its current form allows corruption and corporate power
-A government that is willing to harm its people to deceive them into supporting something
-Racism
-War on Drugs

Let's turn the discussion back around then. What are the problems in the US? Everybody list them one by one to see if we agree on a few things.

Can't resist.

In general: priorities, educational system, extortion, politics, tolerance, religion, social bigotry and all other forms of bigotry, the class system that does indeed exist, entitled people, stupid people, stupid people making all the decisions, law, studying law, sending brave soldiers into combat to see horrors beyond their imagination because you studied law, country music, rap music, the fact that Firefly was canceled, anything made in China, Walmart, people of Walmart, morons, imbiciles, people who can't spell imbeciles correctly, PITA, Twilight, politicians, ghost documentaries, Fox News, small dogs, cats and cat-like women, gas prices, ads, America's Army 3, and people who have more money than me.