No implications necessary, the US is shit.Of course. One of the highest standard of livings in the world = complete shit. Sound logic there. Either you're completely spoiled by living in such a nice country, or you're a complete moron.
Of course. One of the highest standard of livings in the world = complete shit. Sound logic there. Either you're completely spoiled by living in such a nice country, or you're a complete moron.
Yes we have a high standard of living but things in this country are getting worse and worse. Our government is getting so bad its sickening. Our economy is in a free fall as usual. Most other countries in the world laugh at us because:
1.We have more people imprisoned than any other country in the world.
2.We have the worst obesity problem in the world.
3.Our education system is absolutely horrible.
That all being said would i want to live anywhere else? No I wouldnt. Things DO need to change in this country though and they need to change soon.
I split this thread for a juicy conversation. I think the US is going in the shitter for many reasons, just a few:
1. Environmental Damage (pollution from oil and everything derived from oil)
2. Declining Health (from farming and food processing practices)
3. Finances (the Federal Reserve and constant decline of the $)
4. Education (less and less people care about basic education, even English)
Of course, a lot of these problems are world-wide so I can't blame the US for that. I would only move if things in the US got real bad, bad enough to drastically affect my way of life. Right now the economy and education stuff doesn't really affect me. I don't have much money and I've not been to college but those things don't really degrade my happiness and quality of life. Anyway, I have no hope for humanity, I just live the way I think is best for me and my surroundings, that's really all anybody can do.
No no no, we have the EPA and FDA allowing toxic substances to be used. We're one of the slowest countries to respond to environmental damage because there's so much bureaucratic crap to go through and so many big companies funding things in the opposite direction. Countries like France get things done because the government isn't as corrupt and the people have the power.Just because you live next to college towns doesn't mean most of the people you talk to attend or attended college though.
True, but France is also surrounded in debt worse than the U.S. and has a enormous unemployment rate. I wouldn't use their government as an example of a good government.
As for education, I live next to 2 college towns yet in all the correspondence I do with people via e-mails and Craigslist, there's appalling examples of a lack of basic English. I know you'll say "well that's on the internet, that doesn't count" but it's the attitude. If they're that lazy with a couple of keystrokes, how the hell do they manage through life every day? That's just my local 100% proof, no speculation example. I believe that nation-wide there's a growing number of kids that don't give a shit.
Just because you live next to college towns doesn't mean most of the people you talk to attend or attended college though.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-quality-of-life-map.html
wanting to move to a place without the problems america has is bad killa? interesting theory you have there.
South korea is an awesome country, probably where I would work if I wasnt here in australia.here in brazil we use Cane to produce Sugar & Alchol, cane is alot better to produce alchol than Corn.
America would be 10x healthier if the corn industry wasnt so fucked up over there. Corn fed cows? fuck off, cows eat grass. HFCS? natural cane sugar is the largest crop in the world, use it. I see America having a huge problem with industries that are far too big to fall.
Isn't Brazil one of those countries that makes 90% of it's own fuel and has hardly any imports for oil?
I thought you guys made most of your fuel from sugar cane, not from domestic oil production?
1. Valid point
2. No, our obesity rate is right on par with the UK
3. No, it's actually very good compared to most other countries.
Our economy isn't in a free fall, it's been getting stronger ever since the recession. It's not that great, but it's a hell of a lot better than what most of Europe is going through right now. I really don't understand how any sane person can call the U.S., one of the wealthiest developed countries, shit. Especially compared to all the 3rd world countries there are. It's ridiculous and basically comes down to Americans bitching because they always need to find something to bitch about.
too bad the guy who does the actual labor who sweats and breaks his back gets paid the least, while the people who sit on their ass get paid the most. corporations own all of us. if teachers made $200,000 a year, education in U.S would be a job that everyone wanted so the best candidates would be the teachers, why cant a guy who picks strawberries in the hot sun make as much as a computer science major? physical work vs mental work? wtf is the difference, both are hard jobs that require a lot of time and patience. we need some sort of system that balances everything, (communism haha jk) this is why i quit college, i got fed up with people only wanting to pay people that want to sit on their ass.
too bad the guy who does the actual labor who sweats and breaks his back gets paid the least, while the people who sit on their ass get paid the most. corporations own all of us. if teachers made $200,000 a year, education in U.S would be a job that everyone wanted so the best candidates would be the teachers, why cant a guy who picks strawberries in the hot sun make as much as a computer science major? physical work vs mental work? wtf is the difference, both are hard jobs that require a lot of time and patience. we need some sort of system that balances everything, (communism haha jk) this is why i quit college, i got fed up with people only wanting to pay people that want to sit on their ass.The fact of the matter is you get paid based on how hard you are to replace. Almost anyone can do physical labor, but not everyone can be a computer programmer, you need to go to school for that.
The fact of the matter is you get paid based on how hard you are to replace. Almost anyone can do physical labor, but not everyone can be a computer programmer, you need to go to school for that.
As far as the topic goes, I'm sick of idiot spoiled Americans proclaiming their great county is shit just because it's not perfect. It's stupid beyond belief.
As far as it goes for me I wouldnt consider myself a "spoiled American proclaiming my country is shit" As i said before i wouldnt want to live anywhere else. I'd rather fix the issues that this country has and you cannot deny it has issues. First step to solving a problem is knowing and admitting the problem. Not just turn the other cheek and ignore them and say the country is not in trouble because it is.The U.S. has many problems. Corrupt and useless government, too much corporate influence, student loan crisis, etc. I never said it didn't have issues, that's not what this topic is about.
The U.S. has many problems. Corrupt and useless government, too much corporate influence, student loan crisis, etc. I never said it didn't have issues, that's not what this topic is about.
I never said you were one of the spoiled Americans, but Archi seems to be, and his comments are basically what this topic is about.
The fact of the matter is you get paid based on how hard you are to replace. Almost anyone can do physical labor, but not everyone can be a computer programmer, you need to go to school for that.
As far as the topic goes, I'm sick of idiot spoiled Americans proclaiming their great county is shit just because it's not perfect. It's stupid beyond belief.
if a person is educated, why should they make more than someone that is not. what gives them the right to have a better life and have more opportuinites. u read alot of books now you get the most comfortable life (stupid) thats like saying if your handicapped or mentally retarded you dont deserve to have a nice life since you are incapable of being smart or educated (not all handicapped people are incapable of learning but the ones who are). since our country is so set on having the highest standards then make the right choice and even the playing field between blue collar and white collar jobs. it all has to do with our schools i think. schools recieve money for how well they do in testing. if you go to a school in wealthy city of the country their test scores are high so they get alot of money. if you go to a school in a poor city their test scores will be low in which they recienve less money. now doesnt it seem that if a schools test scores/dropout rate is negative, wouldnt it be wiser to give more money to the schools that need more help? rather than giving more to the schools that are already exceeding in test scores and parent donations?If I spend a ton of money and time studying to be an engineer, why the hell would I get paid the same as some filed worker who didn't spend nearly as much time and money learning to do their job? I would have ten times the amount of skills they have and I worked hard to learn my trade. Why on earth would anyone spend the time and money to get a complex job when they can just get a labor job that pays the same? it doesn't make sense. You get paid for how hard you are to replace, and that's how it should be.
If I spend a ton of money and time studying to be an engineer, why the hell would I get paid the same as some filed worker who didn't spend nearly as much time and money learning to do their job? I would have ten times the amount of skills they have and I worked hard to learn my trade. Why on earth would anyone spend the time and money to get a complex job when they can just get a labor job that pays the same? it doesn't make sense. You get paid for how hard you are to replace, and that's how it should be.no it shouldnt. each and every person deserves the same. thats the way it should be. you are a capable person and educated. some people are not, some people dont have all the same opportunity you have. some people, yet some kids gotta pay for their mommas rent in order to support their brothers and sisters. EVERYONE deserves the same house and the same cars as every other man. If thats the way it was people would not steal and people would not hate one another.
depends what sort of factory works being referenced here, the mindless assembly line type work that a highschool dropout could do or trade qualified workers where Australias best boilermaker/welder jobs are offering 500k minimum a year. killa put it simply and truthfully, its not the work you do but how many people around you can do the job, supply and demand a low supply of workers for a demanding job = high pay. if a boss can replace you within a day why wouldnt he say, "where paying you this much if you dont like it theres plenty of others who will" or in the case of a factory "this is how much you get an hour, if you dont like it we will import some workers from the phillipines who will work for less"welders, eletricians, elevator mechanics are part of the middle class that is being fucked. they dony make enough for what they do. the people that make the money sit in a office which is what im saying is crap.someone who sits in a office will never work as hard as someone who carries elevator cables up 30 flights of stairs
why blue collars get paid less then white collar =/= why poverty is still an issue todaythankyou i said this
why blue collars get paid less then white collar =/= why poverty is still an issue today
no it shouldnt. each and every person deserves the same. thats the way it should be. you are a capable person and educated. some people are not, some people dont have all the same opportunity you have. some people, yet some kids gotta pay for their mommas rent in order to support their brothers and sisters. EVERYONE deserves the same house and the same cars as every other man. If thats the way it was people would not steal and people would not hate one another.That ideology would work if everyone was the same, but that's not the case. Sorry to break it to you. Everyone does not deserve the same stuff, that's a dumb statement. A lazy slob who contributes nothing to society does not deserve the same amenities as a hard working person who does a lot of good for society. Your idea is very close to communism. But the one flaw is that people are not all the same and never will be.
That ideology would work if everyone was the same, but that's not the case. Sorry to break it to you. Everyone does not deserve the same stuff, that's a dumb statement. A lazy slob who contributes nothing to society does not deserve the same amenities as a hard working person who does a lot of good for society. Your idea is very close to communism. But the one flaw is that people are not all the same and never will be.we live in a society where they train us to do all this work for a bunch of stuff we dont need. computers, cars, cellular phones, stuff we dont need, yet we praise the people that make them and own them trying to give all our time and effort to have things we really dont need. United States is shit because too many people worship fake idols like you. i been surving on my own since 16. went to san jose state on a loan that i couldnt afford to pay which is why i dropped out. i would have finished if i had more money. im not saying education is a bad thing or having money is a bad thing but it is because people like you who thing because you are capable of doing certain things that you have the right to more power.
we live in a society where they train us to do all this work for a bunch of stuff we dont need. computers, cars, cellular phones, stuff we dont need, yet we praise the people that make them and own them trying to give all our time and effort to have things we really dont need. United States is shit because too many people worship fake idols like you. i been surving on my own since 16. went to san jose state on a loan that i couldnt afford to pay which is why i dropped out. i would have finished if i had more money. im not saying education is a bad thing or having money is a bad thing but it is because people like you who thing because you are capable of doing certain things that you have the right to more power.What world do you live in where things that aren't necessary to survive aren't important? You seem unable to grasp the concept of an economy, of human wants and desires. Things like computers are made to fill the desired of humans. Everything comes back to what humans want, what they will work and pay for. It doesn't matter if we need these things to survive, people will pay for them. As long as there is demand, there will be people supplying it. It seems to me like you want a fantasy utopia that will never exist. Where everyone is the same and there is no demand for entertainment or material things. You're essentially a communist.
You're essentially a communist.
What's so bad about communism, comrade?I'm talking legitimate communism, not the phony baloney communism that the USSR used. No government, no private property, no currency, no classes. It's an impossible utopia.
I'm talking legitimate communism, not the phony baloney communism that the USSR used. No government, no private property, no currency, no classes. It's an impossible utopia.
i know that my thoughts will never actually happen anytime soon and not everything i say is right or correct but atleast i got something to say, i just like to step back from the bigger picture and express my ideas, im not trying to offend anyone kinda just venting some frustration and babbling just saying what comes to mind, i dont mean any disrespect killaman, and i know i probably just seem like some hippie kid from california. which i am but im also someone who has worked hard for everything i have. nobody ever gave me a handout and i wouldnt take one. the profession you are in is one of great respect. being capable of becoming a doctor or engineer is great but its for those who are not capable that deserve the same luxuries. people dont have a choice where they are born, who they live with , and what country they live in. you just gotta live life. now days people dont live, they are caught up in the facebook and what chip mod is on their STI or how many gigabytes in a hardrive. when in reality that stuff is making all of us the same lazy slob ass americans. and who do we worship, the computer the tv the job that makes the computers and tvs.You seem to be generalizing a lot of people though. That's the problem.
us is shit cos u cant go drinky poos till ur 21
What world do you live in where things that aren't necessary to survive aren't important? You seem unable to grasp the concept of an economy, of human wants and desires. Things like computers are made to fill the desired of humans. Everything comes back to what humans want, what they will work and pay for. It doesn't matter if we need these things to survive, people will pay for them. As long as there is demand, there will be people supplying it. It seems to me like you want a fantasy utopia that will never exist. Where everyone is the same and there is no demand for entertainment or material things. You're essentially a communist.everything you base your ideas on is from the past 500 years on this earth. the earth has been here for billions of years and humans have been here for millions of years and your ideaology is based off what percentage of human evolution? all of the shit we have today has already been discovered and died off before us. we have only re-discovered a small amount of information that we used to have. too many people looking in front of themselves with their hands on the sides of their eyes so they can only see straight ahead and not to the sides. thats what most people like you do. wakeup, go to work, go to sleep, do it again. a slave who chooses to be blind to the truth that you are supposedly 'working' to survive, when you are ultimately working to waste your life on the things that dont matter. food, clothing, shelter. all free given to us from our planet, that your profession/job have raped the benefits of and commericalized on. i could go back to school to be an engineer or some other societal slave but i chose not to support whats killing our own society. theres no more balance in this world and people will start to slowly realize it as they already are.
it actually is possible.No, the theory is fundamentally flawed and impossible to implement in today's world. Communism will be the end result of capitalism; when we advance so much that we do not need anything more. That is when communism works, but it's an impossible end result. Society can't grow under communism, there is no reward for innovation. A modern society cannot function without a government, without classes, and without greed. It won't happen. Not yet at least, not for a very long time, if ever.
http://www.thevenusproject.com/ (http://www.thevenusproject.com/)
Jaque Frasco is a genius and they are starting to implement his process in a city in florida.
Resource based economy
everything you base your ideas on is from the past 500 years on this earth. the earth has been here for billions of years and humans have been here for millions of years and your ideaology is based off what percentage of human evolution? all of the shit we have today has already been discovered and died off before us. we have only re-discovered a small amount of information that we used to have. too many people looking in front of themselves with their hands on the sides of their eyes so they can only see straight ahead and not to the sides. thats what most people like you do. wakeup, go to work, go to sleep, do it again. a slave who chooses to be blind to the truth that you are supposedly 'working' to survive, when you are ultimately working to waste your life on the things that dont matter. food, clothing, shelter. all free given to us from our planet, that your profession/job have raped the benefits of and commericalized on. i could go back to school to be an engineer or some other societal slave but i chose not to support whats killing our own society. theres no more balance in this world and people will start to slowly realize it as they already are.Wow, that is the most BS post I think I have ever read. You might thing you're "deep" and "open-minded" but really you're just spewing a bunch of unproven bullshit. What's the purpose of life? I'd like to know seeing as you seem to know everything.
You seem to be generalizing a lot of people though. That's the problem.we are all part of the problem, including me. ive obviously eaten at mcdonalds and watched transformers. however i dont need them. many things make absoulutely no sense and are RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES, pot is one of the best widley used medicines that cures like a millions things yet its illegal since much more money is made off pharmaceuticals which kills tons of people and has people addicted to highs that are turning people into mindless idiots, having kiddie porn is legal in new york city. (having it not manufacturing it, yes thats fucking sick regarless yet its legal!)
we are all part of the problem, including me. ive obviously eaten at mcdonalds and watched transformers. however i dont need them. many things make absoulutely no sense and are RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES, pot is one of the best widley used medicines that cures like a millions things yet its illegal since much more money is made off pharmaceuticals which kills tons of people and has people addicted to highs that are turning people into mindless idiots, having kiddie porn is legal in new york city. (having it not manufacturing it, yes thats fucking sick regarless yet its legal!)That's a loophole that they're trying to close at the moment.
Wow, that is the most BS post I think I have ever read. You might thing you're "deep" and "open-minded" but really you're just spewing a bunch of unproven bullshit. What's the purpose of life? I'd like to know seeing as you seem to know everything.its definately not to act so arrogant like your soo smart and so above all of us "lesser thans." you chose to be that slave i didnt. im happy with my life wouldnt change it for anything, anyone, or any amount of money. read chariots of the gods i mean fuck its common sense. dont be mad because you choose not to beleive the truth of some pretty obvious facts. you've been force fed american history books you forgot how to think for youself
its definately not to act so arrogant like your soo smart and so above all of us "lesser thans." you chose to be that slave i didnt. im happy with my life wouldnt change it for anything, anyone, or any amount of money. read chariots of the gods i mean fuck its common sense. dont be mad because you choose not to beleive the truth of some pretty obvious facts. you've been force fed american history books you forgot how to think for youselfAre you on drugs? Serious question.
That's a loophole that they're trying to close at the moment.its just like the loophole the vatican uses to hide its child molesters for hundreds of years, the way they close these loopholes is money. the fact is people who have money think they can do whatever they want.
Also, it seems like you're saying that anything we don't "need" to survive is bad. That is a stupid statement.
What's the purpose of life?
nope, weed is not a drug.Shocking.
we dont need college that cost 50 thousand a year. information is free go to the library.I fully agree.
Grapes touched on something in one of the last posts. I too am not a worker drone. It's really laughable that the American way is to loan yourself into debt then spend all day every week day working your ass off and then on the weekends try to do things but never accomplish anything because you're too tired from the week and still don't have any money.More and more generalizations. You can't work and not be a drone at the same time? That seems illogical.
You guys need to watch more movies. No one caught that Airplane reference.I'ts been awhile since I've seen Airplane. :P
back in hawaii when i lived there i used to go to this camp where they taught you about the native people from many thousands of years who would do all the work on the island in less than 3 hours a day in order for everyone to have enough food clothing and shelter for the day. for the rest of the day and for entertainment they'd surf or swim in the ocean. thats having a life. todays life is about keeping certain bloodlines in society wealthy and luxurious. got people paying thousands of dollars for shiny rocks called diamonds, beliving that they are 'precious stones.' a piece of paper that defines what kind of education you get and what kind of life you will live. everything you suppoosedly 'work' for is to keep them in power.someone dont want to listen or wants to talk send them to jail just like NDAA look that up. our goverment is hi-jacked by corrupt bankers who use us to support them. in europe many countries have GMO labeling, oh wait US with its high standars and NO GMO labels. NICE!
nope, weed is not a drug.I used to walk with Drug users and I know the consequencies of its use.
I used to walk with Drug users and I know the consequencies of its use.
tasted Cocaine 1 time, and marijuana 10x, but Alchol was my fav(from Absinthe to Beer), I was an Alcoholic with only 17/18yo(20 in 2 days), Drugs change your world, your point of view, turn you into selfishness, well, nothing good comes from drugs.
sry for the off-topic
OH OH OH I KNOW I KNOW!!!i like to see how others minds work and not prove them wrong or chastize them but rather learn from one another. as a human being we never stop learning, every deserves to have their voice heard.
Sex. There's nothing religious, spiritual or philosophical. We're here to breed and make more of us. That's what all animals do. We're pretty good at it too.
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Grapes touched on something in one of the last posts. I too am not a worker drone. It's really laughable that the American way is to loan yourself into debt then spend all day every week day working your ass off and then on the weekends try to do things but never accomplish anything because you're too tired from the week and still don't have any money.
Shocking.
I fully agree.
Ohhhhhh, You're a conspiracy nut. Gotcha.your probably one of those poeple who think your vote counts who becomes president too...
your probably one of those poeple who think your vote counts who becomes president too...I do, but that's probably because I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Thanks Jesus.
I do, but that's probably because I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist.umm, your vote is for who is popular, and i dont think your an elected offical in which you have a hand in the electoral vote? which is why i dont vote because they will pick and choose presidents as they do laws.
umm, your vote is for who is popular, and i dont think your an elected offical in which you have a hand in the electoral vote? which is why i dont vote because they will pick and choose presidents as they do laws.The electoral votes go toward whoever wins the majority vote in the state. It's never happened any other way.
More and more generalizations. You can't work and not be a drone at the same time? That seems illogical.
umm, your vote is for who is popular, and i dont think your an elected offical in which you have a hand in the electoral vote? which is why i dont vote because they will pick and choose presidents as they do laws.you can't fight with the masses, but don't lose the oportunity to change the things, use ur vote.
The electoral votes go toward whoever wins the majority vote in the state. It's never happened any other way.they are inclined to vote for who the popular vote winner is, but they do not have to. the way our politicians word they own regualtions/standards is amazing. even someone as educated as you thinks that your vote actually counts! WAKE UP!
I'm talking about the majority of workers, the ones chasing the American dream. That's exactly what Grapes is talking about too. Those people that beat themselves every day and live for the weekend. It's such a rat race. Great reason why I don't go into town on the weekend, all the rushing people. Take a look outside at a highway on Memorial Day weekend. All those people, rushing to try and go camping, try and grab a pinch of nature because they never see any in their drone lifestyles. It's funny really.
I find myself siding with Grapes more actually. I'm not a nut or a conspiracy theorist. I look at the facts. There are so many things that are better than the American dream. I believe self-teaching and experience can make you more educated than college can, at a cheaper price too. A lot of specific jobs require more than college as well such as trade schools or certification. Just skip college and get those things. You'll gain 4 years of your life and you won't be in debt!
lol Killaman, your presidential vote doesn't matter. Direct action matters. I'm actually not going to vote in this next election. You won't improve the world by saying "guy x should be president", you change the world by changing your life and then improving your local world (environment, habitat, dwelling, community, whatever you want to call it). Then inspire others to change and improve for the better.That's not what I was talking about. Grapes said my vote doesn't count towards electing the president when it clearly does. Whether it means anything significant is a completely different topic.
they are inclined to vote for who the popular vote winner is, but they do not have to. the way our politicians word they own regualtions/standards is amazing. even someone as educated as you thinks that your vote actually counts! WAKE UP!Yeah, they don't have to vote for the popular vote winner, BUT IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE LIFETIME OF THE UNITED STATES. What do you not get about that? If they voted for someone else, there would be public outrage and a demand for change, something they don't want to do.
Yeah, they don't have to vote for the popular vote winner, BUT IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE LIFETIME OF THE UNITED STATES. What do you not get about that? If they voted for someone else, there would be public outrage and a demand for change, something they don't want to do.there already is public outrage, occupy? oh wait the rich use their gustapo called the police to get rid the ones who are outraged and wont stand for capitalistic ideaology. just like vietnam, its all politics, no its called opium trade.
there already is public outrage, occupy? oh wait the rich use their gustapo called the police to get rid the ones who are outraged and wont stand for capitalistic ideaology. just like vietnam, its all politics, no its called opium trade.Occupy is a complete joke. A bunch of idiots wanting free rides because their stupid Philosophy degree is useless. Occupy didn't even have a uniform goal, everyone said something different and equally stupid. Not to mention it had nothing to do with the electoral college, which is what was being discussed.
It seems that you think your way of life is better than others. Why do you care if others choose to go to school and collect debt? That's how they want to live. Not to mention having a 9-5 job leaves plenty of time to do thing, even on the weekdays. It's extremely ignorant to call these people drones. You don't know what they do, you're assuming they go to work, then sleep, which isn't true in most cases. You're judging them as lesser individuals than, is your life really any more meaningful?
Occupy is a complete joke. A bunch of idiots wanting free rides because their stupid Philosophy degree is useless. Occupy didn't even have a uniform goal, everyone said something different and equally stupid. Not to mention it had nothing to do with the electoral college, which is what was being discussed.electoral bologne, all politicans should be shot. end of story. occupy was twisted by the media into a bunch of violent freeloaders, the occupiers i know in san franciso were nothing like that. btw check youtube for videos that show police undercover in the occupy protests starting the violent acts just so police can abuse them. yes police were hired to dress up like occupy protesters and told to start acts of violence to give police a reason to beat on them. some real CIA NSA mind fucking shit. but there is proof that its true.
I don't think it's ignorant to call those people drones. It's exactly what they are. I've seen it in person. Wake up early to drive an hour to work, work all day, drive an hour back home, grab dinner and go straight to bed. Get up and do it again! Then when the weekend comes, you're exhausted so you sleep in and boom! 1/4 of your weekend is gone so you have Saturday afternoon before anything gets done, money is tight because of loans and debt. It's a malicious cycle that doesn't really sustain anything, it doesn't allow you to accomplish anything in life.Come one Spanky, more generalizations. A typical work day is 8 hours. There is time to do stuff, even on the weekdays. It's stupid to claim people go to work, eat, and then go to sleep, that's not true at all. I don't know anybody that does that.
Come one Spanky, more generalizations. A typical work day is 8 hours. There is time to do stuff, even on the weekdays. It's stupid to claim people go to work, eat, and then go to sleep, that's not true at all. I don't know anybody that does that.
Also, debt isn't a bad thing, it's actually a great thing. It's only when debt gets out of hand that it becomes problematic. If you're using the money you borrow wisely and make it worth it, you will have no problems. Borrowing money to go to college is a great idea, as long as you're learning something useful. Borrowing money to get a philosophy degree is bad. Borrowing money to get an engineering degree is good. It all comes down to how you use the money.
Come one Spanky, more generalizations. A typical work day is 8 hours. There is time to do stuff, even on the weekdays. It's stupid to claim people go to work, eat, and then go to sleep, that's not true at all. I don't know anybody that does that.some people understand engineering good like you, some people understand philosiphy good. none of them is more important than the other. money is just this idea that has also been spoon fed to us remeber its just a piece of paper. people used to trade goods in order to survive, thats what it needs to go back to. trade for what you need, not trade a usless object for what you need. trading a useful object for another useful object is much more satisfying,
Also, debt isn't a bad thing, it's actually a great thing. It's only when debt gets out of hand that it becomes problematic. If you're using the money you borrow wisely and make it worth it, you will have no problems. Borrowing money to go to college is a great idea, as long as you're learning something useful. Borrowing money to get a philosophy degree is bad. Borrowing money to get an engineering degree is good. It all comes down to how you use the money.
some people understand engineering good like you, some people understand philosiphy good. none of them is more important than the other. money is just this idea that has also been spoon fed to us remeber its just a piece of paper. people used to trade goods in order to survive, thats what it needs to go back to. trade for what you need, not trade a usless object for what you need. trading a useful object for another useful object is much more satisfying,
some people understand engineering good like you, some people understand philosiphy good. none of them is more important than the other. money is just this idea that has also been spoon fed to us remeber its just a piece of paper. people used to trade goods in order to survive, thats what it needs to go back to. trade for what you need, not trade a usless object for what you need. trading a useful object for another useful object is much more satisfying,You just contradicted your own post though. You can't go to a barter economy (trade goods for goods) because then people would actually need to know how to do useful things in order to survive. Philosophy is not one of those useful things. Nobody is going to trade you food for a boring lecture on how the mind in the only thing we can surely know exists. It won't happen. You need something useful, like carpentry skills or engineering skills to be able to trade for food.
Come one Spanky, more generalizations. A typical work day is 8 hours. There is time to do stuff, even on the weekdays. It's stupid to claim people go to work, eat, and then go to sleep, that's not true at all. I don't know anybody that does that.
Also, debt isn't a bad thing, it's actually a great thing. It's only when debt gets out of hand that it becomes problematic. If you're using the money you borrow wisely and make it worth it, you will have no problems. Borrowing money to go to college is a great idea, as long as you're learning something useful. Borrowing money to get a philosophy degree is bad. Borrowing money to get an engineering degree is good. It all comes down to how you use the money.
Typical work day = 8 hours. 8 hours + 2 hours driving time = 10 hours. Let's say an hour for pre-work prep time and post-work unwinding time. 11 hours. Toss in an hour for dinner. 12 hours. 9 hours of sleep so there's 3 hours left. 3 hours of wiggle room a day. Not much time if you have overtime or you work slightly longer than a typical work day. Plus, you just worked all day, you're tired and in the winter months, you likely get home when it's dark. It's a lifestyle that leaves so much to be desired really.That also depends on your job though. People do have typical 9-5 jobs that they enjoy doing.
the idea that you have to take out a loan that you will be paying pretty much the rest of your life to be educated is stupid. Why should someone who doesnt have money not have the same opportunity to go to school and learn as a person who does have money? That makes sense to you? really? And dont go calling someone a "crazy conspiracy theorist" because of their beliefs. I believe a lot of things that people look down on because they are crazy. for example i believe that 9/11 was an inside job and was a ploy to start a war. Our government is the most corrupt thing on this planet and again all of these problems are brought on by money. Grapes is right money buys you out of anything and it's wrong. Calling someone stupid or saying what they say is bull shit makes me angry and it's a very arrogant thing to say. I agree 100% with you spanky. I tend to base my thoughts off of factsThat's what a loan is for, those who can't afford things. Anybody can go to college, hell, if you're poor they give you free money to attend college. Also, saying that a vote doesn't count towards the election of the president is crazy, because all evidence says it does. I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to call out that BS.
Also, saying that a vote doesn't count towards the election of the president is crazy, because all evidence says it does.
You just contradicted your own post though. You can't go to a barter economy (trade goods for goods) because then people would actually need to know how to do useful things in order to survive. Philosophy is not one of those useful things. Nobody is going to trade you food for a boring lecture on how the mind in the only thing we can surely know exists. It won't happen. You need something useful, like carpentry skills or engineering skills to be able to trade for food.
I really agree with this. Money is fake. It's accepted as real though. Small communities are awesome where you can barter goods for goods or services for goods or goods for services. I always try to solicit labor for goods.i trade my plants for services and goods.
My evidence says it doesn't. I voted Obama and the majority in my redneck state voted McCain. My vote did absolutely nothing.Not true. Your vote counted, it was part of the vote, but your side lost. It might not have counted on the federal level, nobody's vote does, but it counted on the state level, and that's the most important part of the electing process.
and what is wrong with people learning how to do useful things to survive?Where did I say that was wrong? That was actually the entire point I've been trying to make. People that learn useful things are more important than those who don't. He was trying to prove me wrong but proved me right. I was just pointing out him contradicting himself.
That's a bad way to look at things. Your vote counted, it was part of the vote, but your side lost. It counted. It might not have counted on the fdederal level, but it counted on the state level, and that's more important in our system.
It is a bad way, especially since it was the first and only time I voted. But, looking at what Obama has done and how much people are pissed off with him, voting is a lose-lose battle. The whole 4 years thing is crap too. It's probably more beneficial to contact your rep/congressman to voice your concerns and sway the vote for bills.I agree. Congress is much more important than the President. If you want anything done, it needs to go through congress first. They are more important that the president by far.
You just contradicted your own post though. You can't go to a barter economy (trade goods for goods) because then people would actually need to know how to do useful things in order to survive. Philosophy is not one of those useful things. Nobody is going to trade you food for a boring lecture on how the mind in the only thing we can surely know exists. It won't happen. You need something useful, like carpentry skills or engineering skills to be able to trade for food.fishing is easy, catching game is easy and you dont have to be an engineer or anyhting to figure it out. building a shelter out of natures materials doesnt take much smarts. whatever you are good at is something u can trade for something that someone else is good at. yet u trade your money which you can buy food with for a boring engineering lecture. just as many people trade their money for a boring philiosphy lecture now days.
fishing is easy, catching game is easy and you dont have to be an engineer or anyhting to figure it out. building a shelter out of natures materials doesnt take much smarts. whatever you are good at is something u can trade for something that someone else is good at. yet u trade your money which you can buy food with for a boring engineering lecture. just as many people trade their money for a boring philiosphy lecture now days.Fishing isn't easy and neither is hunting. It's only "easy" now because the big bad evil corporations have given you the tools to make it easier.
Fishing isn't easy and neither is hunting. It's only "easy" now because the big bad evil corporations have given you the tools to make it easier.
I disagree. Was it hard for hunters and gatherers to fish or hunt before guns and fishing poles? Every male knew how to do it.Yes. Just because people knew how to do it doesn't make it easy. Back then males HAD to know how to do it, that was life or death. Now it's different, much different.
Yes. Just because people knew how to do it doesn't make it easy.Mass Hunting/Fishing make it harder
Fishing isn't easy and neither is hunting. It's only "easy" now because the big bad evil corporations have given you the tools to make it easier.it must be easier sitting thru lectures because you wouldnt be here if your ancestors did not learn to fish and hunt.
the length of life over the past 500 years has risen, over the past 50,000 years has significantly dropped.
it must be easier sitting thru lectures because you wouldnt be here if your ancestors did not learn to fish and hunt.What's your point? I don't understand what you're trying to prove. You constantly change the point you're tying to make. It's rather confusing.
if u were left on an island with only nencessary tools to live, no technologically advanced products you probably wouldnt survive. fishing is easier with your hands and so is hunting. take a rock and throw it at your prey. cmon mr. engineer its not that hard to figure out. your country wants you to rely on its way of making food and medical remedies in order to control the population. the length of life over the past 500 years has risen, over the past 50,000 years has significantly dropped.
it must be easier sitting thru lectures because you wouldnt be here if your ancestors did not learn to fish and hunt.capitalizing and commercializing is not making this world easier.
if u were left on an island with only nencessary tools to live, no technologically advanced products you probably wouldnt survive. fishing is easier with your hands and so is hunting. take a rock and throw it at your prey. cmon mr. engineer its not that hard to figure out. your country wants you to rely on its way of making food and medical remedies in order to control the population. the length of life over the past 500 years has risen, over the past 50,000 years has significantly dropped.
capitalizing and commercializing is not making this world easier.That's a pretty bold claim, one that you literally cannot prove. How has modern technology NOT made life easier? You must be joking.
What's your point? I don't understand what you're trying to prove. You constantly change the point you're tying to make. It's rather confusing.wtf do i know, im one person just sharing my opinion. im not trying to prove anyhting rather just help people expand their minds, others like yourself open your eyes before you wakeup one day realizing you wasted 30 years trying to learn things that do nothing for you.
wtf do i know, im one person just sharing my opinion. im not trying to prove anyhting rather just help people expand their minds, others like yourself open your eyes before you wakeup one day realizing you wasted 30 years trying to learn things that do nothing for you.You pretty much just dodged my question by spewing more superiority bullshit.
That's a pretty bold claim, one that you literally cannot prove. How has modern technology NOT made life easier? You must be joking.technology makes ur life confortable, not easier, life its bigger than buying from the interwebz than going to the market.
That's a pretty bold claim, one that you literally cannot prove. How has modern technology NOT made life easier? You must be joking.radiation, cancer, pollution, look at our planet, its falling to pieces because of commercialing and capitalizing. why do you think 2/4 kids have asthma??? not from me fishing withouth the use of gas products or oil based products. from people like you who want to better themselves off the earths gifts that are free to everyone. once people started to 'make money' is when shit got all messed up.
That's a pretty bold claim, one that you literally cannot prove. How has modern technology NOT made life easier? You must be joking.
I really don't have time to read this right now. I'll just say that standard of living was irrelevant when I said that the US is shit. What I mean is that we live in a country where every successful politician is corrupt, where self-interests are all that matter in politics. We live in a country where rights are being taken away and everyone is being deceived. We live in a country where most people belong to one of two political parties, both of which are run by the very same people so that the general public is led to believe that they are choosing one side or the other.dont blame it on rap, look at oarn and slipknot etc they all got their hand it it
The Federal Reserve is fucking us. The Fed banks are "independent, privately owned, and locally controlled corporations. The board of the Federal Reserve has representatives from JP Morgan Chase, General Electric, and Lehman Brothers. Do you get it now? Big corporations that side with these corrupt politician puppets at the apparent top and (above them) the true leaders of our country end up being successful.
On top of that, the media is fucking us even more. It's run by six corporations. And these corporations also support this shadow government and are in return supported by the power of that government. It's funny to watch bickering between liberal media and conservative media while knowing that they're run by the same people!THE US IS SHIT
9/11 WAS IN INSIDE JOB
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS RUN BY ILLUMINATI
MODERN RAP PUSHES A VIOLENT AGENDA
JAY-Z SOLD HIS SOUL... HE'S THE WORST OF THEM ALL
AND LASTLY... CHRIS BROWN DIDN'T FUCKING TOUCH RIHANNA. HE JUST DIDN'T WANNA GO ILLUMINATI RIGHT AWAY...
and yet all the big corporations want to hold this technology back from us. They know and have the technology of the iphone 10 but will they release it? No they release them in stages and why? TO MAKE MORE MONEY. It's ridiculous why not release the latest technology and continue create better? It is absolutely sickening how our system is run.That's not how it works. That literally makes no sense. Your theory would make sense if it was only 1 corporation that controlled everything, butt that's not the case. If they wanted more money, they would push to keep bringing out better technology to get customers from their competitors. It's called competition and is the basis for capitalism.
That's not how it works. That literally makes no sense. Your theory would make sense if it was only 1 corporation that controlled everything, butt that's not the case. If they wanted more money, they would push to keep bringing out better technology to get customers from their competitors. It's called competition and is the basis for capitalism.theres like 10 coporations, rockefellers, rothchilds etc
theres like 10 coporations, rockefellers, rothchilds etc.....No.
dont blame it on rap, look at oarn and slipknot etc they all got their hand it it
That's not how it works. That literally makes no sense. Your theory would make sense if it was only 1 corporation that controlled everything, butt that's not the case. If they wanted more money, they would push to keep bringing out better technology to get customers from their competitors. It's called competition and is the basis for capitalism.all of them are run by them same few very wealthy super elites. thats why in the 80's and 90's the phone companies had to breakup because they were ultimately owned by the same group of oinking families.
all of them are run by them same few very wealthy super elites. thats why in the 80's and 90's the phone companies had to breakup because they were ultimately owned by the same group of oinking families.Proof?
That's not how it works. That literally makes no sense. Your theory would make sense if it was only 1 corporation that controlled everything, butt that's not the case. If they wanted more money, they would push to keep bringing out better technology to get customers from their competitors. It's called competition and is the basis for capitalism.
Talking about illuminati makes it to where I cannot take you seriously, even though I do agree that our government is corrupt and corporations play too big of a role in politics.
very true but nu-metal didn't stay popular for long so illuminati moved on... just like with auto-tune
^^And yes rockafeller / rothschilds / jp morgan are the worst
rothschilds run the fucking world, their precious little israel sitting right in the middle of all the action. fuck zionism.
THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS RUN BY ILLUMINATI
MODERN RAP PUSHES A VIOLENT AGENDA
JAY-Z SOLD HIS SOUL... HE'S THE WORST OF THEM ALL
AND LASTLY... CHRIS BROWN DIDN'T FUCKING TOUCH RIHANNA. HE JUST DIDN'T WANNA GO ILLUMINATI RIGHT AWAY...
very true but nu-metal didn't stay popular for long so illuminati moved on... just like with auto-tune
^^And hes rockafeller / rothschilds / jp morgan are the worst
rothschilds run the fucking world, their precious little israel sitting right in the middle of all the action. fuck zionism.
.....No.one word comment is really breaking me. makes you look like all you got is that one word to defend your statments.
killaman you always ask for proof but if you looked where we looked you'd believe it too. but I know you won't look into it like we did and I don't blame you, ignorance is blissIt's funny because you've never given proof. I'm not going to scour the internet on conspiracy theory sites to find "the truth" just tell me where the fuck your proof is, and I'll look at it. Nobody ever does, so it leads me to believe it's non-existent.
Proof?proove why we needed to invade vietnam?
killaman you always ask for proof but if you looked where we looked you'd believe it too. but I know you won't look into it like we did and I don't blame you, ignorance is bliss
proove why we needed to invade vietnam?What does that have to do with the discussion? Vietnam wasn't needed, it was a stupid war, I';m sure we can all agree on that. We were trying to help out an ally and stop the spread of communism. That's completely irrelevant to my post though, where is your proof? Stop dodging the question.
if there was proof of all this the people would rise up and this would have ended 60 years ago. i suppose people like julian assange believe in this enough to work to release the truth, but more than anything else this is something I have faith in and truly believe.You just admitted that what you're saying is baseless. Thank you.
"there is no truth, only perspective"
please call the person you dont understand crazy because thats intelligent. ignorance is bliss.
Maybe we shouldn't interpret what companies/presidents might have done. Conspiracy theories are just that, theories. Facts are the only things that should be looked at.heres another fact, ' i did not have sexual relations with that woman!'
exactly what i'm thinkingSorry, I just assume everyone who makes claims without any proof is crazy.
What does that have to do with the discussion? Vietnam wasn't needed, it was a stupid war, I';m sure we can all agree on that. We were trying to help out an ally and stop the spread of communism. That's completely irrelevant to my post though, where is your proof? Stop dodging the question.communism is the name elites made up for middle class in charge
communism is the the elites made up for middle class in chargeWhat?
What?i fixed it
if there was proof of all this the people would rise up and this would have ended 60 years ago. i suppose people like julian assange believe in this enough to work to release the truth, but more than anything else this is something I have faith in and truly believe.
"there is no truth, only perspective"
i fixed itStill don't understand the point you're trying to make. Also, you're still dodging my post asking for proof to your "10 companies control everything" theory.
anyone want proof?Yes, people are corrupt, yes people do corrupt things for money. What does that have to do with a shadow government and Illuminati?
the best proof I can give is just starting you on the path to enlightenment. learn to accept that the government doesn't give a fuck about you, that money is all that matters in the world, and that the government would kill you for money and power.
MK ULTRA
OPERATION NORTHWOODS
TUSKEGEE SYPHILIS EXPERIMENT
Proof?
Sorry, I just assume everyone who makes claims without any proof is crazy.
Well there was a phone company breakup in the 80s because at&t owned basically every phone company in the US. The government forced them to split so each company became independent (no more phone company monopoly). This formed Qwest, Bell, att, and all the other old 90s phone companies that don't really exist anymore. They don't exist anymore because att bought most of them back up again. It's kind of funny.Yeah but AT&T doesn't even control the whole phone industry, much less most of the companies in the world like he is claiming. Last time I checked Verizon was bigger than AT&T. He said 10 companies control everything with 0 evidence to support it.
The proof is the fact that this country is in trillions of dollars of debt. The proof is the way the government works is whoever kisses enough corporate ass to make their lips brown gets to be in charge whether they know what they are doing or not and the way we like to temporarily "fix" our problems is spend more money that we dont have to bail out those shit corporations when they run out. I.E. AIG, General Motors etc...That's not proof to what was being discussed. That's just giving out examples of corruption.
Yeah but AT&T doesn't even control the whole phone industry, much less most of the companies in the world like he is claiming. Last time I checked Verizon was bigger than AT&T. He said 10 companies control everything with 0 evidence to support it.
TUSKEGEE SYPHILIS EXPERIMENT
For participating in the study, the men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance.
So does anyone have any solutions, or are we all here to bitch about stupid bullshit? No one here is going to change anything. Opinions based on nothing are irrelevant. I recommend some of you do some research on what logical fallacies are, because this thread is full of them. There's some fucked up shit here, yes, but there is everywhere else too. A lot of it is worse.This is extremely true. I'm not going to pretend like I'm trying to make the world a better place, and neither should most people. But there is discussion to be had here, and it's simply entertainment.
BTW: Happy not-living-in-Afghanistan.
I never claimed that the phone industry was owned by 1 company. Now youre putting words in my mouthI wasn't referring to you. :P
actually one group controls everything, there's just a select few corporations that are truly backed by them completely. usually companies affiliated with the wealthiest people in the country a hell of a long time agoYeah. They're probably aliens from outer space too. They use their superior mid controlling technology to control the masses and the only way to see through it is to do drugs.
Yeah. They're probably aliens from outer space too. They use their superior mid controlling technology to control the masses and the only way to see through it is to do drugs.
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MothaGoosE, this is a wild discussion with a lot of opinions. I think it's a good discussion because at least it gets ideas flowing and gets people thinking, right or wrong. I think the moral of this discussion is that there's so much shit fucked up in the country and the world that it's probably best to just ignore it all and live your life how you want as things will go to hell likely after you die so what does it matter anyway.
Understood, however if the argument degrades into argument by verbosity and from ignorance, it's just going to turn into who can fling the most shit the farthest. True arguments are a learning experience for all parties involved.
Why do you always have to refer to putting someone down or making fun of what they do? Just because it's different than what you think it's wrong?No, it's wrong because it isn't based on facts. Any assumption not based on facts is useless. Nothing Grapes and Archi have been saying has any hint of truth to it or facts to back it up, yet they act as though it does.
The argument has already passed the peak of the bell curve. We're in the steady decline and soon nobody will be responding and AAO25 will go back to being slow and boring for 2 weeks until somebody else stirs up some shit. Maybe I'll ban a random user, who knows.
And therefore religion is useless, everyone who believes in anything religious or spiritual is dumb and deserves to be told off by killamanReligion isn't useless. It gives people hope, something to believe in, to keep them motivated and happy looking forward to going to a better place when they die. I personally don't believe in religion, but it has benefits for others. Believing in the Illuminati has no benefits, unless you find tinfoil hats stylish.
it's not based on fact and therefore wrong.Correct. At least for the time being. If there were ever facts found to back it up, then it could become true, but until then, it's wrong.
And therefore religion is useless, everyone who believes in anything religious or spiritual is dumb and deserves to be told off by killaman
No, it's wrong because it isn't based on facts. Any assumption not based on facts is useless. Nothing Grapes and Archi have been saying has any hint of truth to it or facts to back it up, yet they act as though it does.
Correct. At least for the time being. If there were ever facts found to back it up, then it could become true, but until then, it's wrong.u can always found facts for what u believe, facts are facts, rumors are rumors and theres only 1 truth, but everyone was a point of view inside this truth. defend ur beliefs, 1 day u will know if ur wrong or not :P
And if simply pointing out someone was wrong made you right, we'd have politicians that prepare for their careers by studying law--wait a minute...People who practice how to bullshit other people in matters over their heads are in. It's not what you see, it's what you don't.I choose to believe in thing that are backed by facts, things that have been proven right. If you want to believe in made up things that may or may not be true then go ahead, but that's not a healthy way to live. I can't prove that there isn't an invisible pink pony following me around everywhere, so should I start telling everyone that it's real? No, because it defies common sense, and so does a lot of the crazy theories in this thread. If there isn't any facts to back it up, it's a waste of time and not worth believing in.
I second this! Seriously. If people need hope that bad and see hope in stained glass or burned toast then they need help. You can live life and do good without following god's or jesus' laws. You don't have to be religious to be a good person. Religion has stunted humanity.
I choose to believe in thing that are backed by facts, things that have been proven right. If you want to believe in made up things that may or may not be true then go ahead, but that's not a healthy way to live. I can't prove that there isn't an invisible pink pony following me around everywhere, so should I start telling everyone that it's real? No, because it defies common sense, and so does a lot of the crazy theories in this thread. If there isn't any facts to back it up, it's a waste of time and not worth believing in.
Well, yes, the default position in any argument in which a claim is made is not to believe it until it is proven. Just try and argue that with any Christian and out comes special pleading, strawmanning, and pretty much every fallacy they can get their hands on.I know, and the same thing applies for these conspiracy theories. Nobody can show me any proof they are real, yet they act as if they are. Same situation, different subject.
Religion isn't about hope, it's about having an excuse. It's about not being responsible for your actions. It's a fairytale for grown-ups. If you have to fear Hell for sinning and be promised Heaven for having faith in order to do what you think is right, then your morals are fucked. Spreading nice lies don't make lies the truth. I could go on for days about religion.
It's strictly for the weak-minded, much like cigarettes, alcohol and other drugs (sorry Archi).
I know, and the same thing applies for these conspiracy theories. Nobody can show me any proof they are real, yet they act as if they are. Same situation, different subject.
I agree that Christianity is fucked but I still believe in an omniscient/omnipotent creator.theres only 1, if u belive why don't u give a chance to ur self, yeah, to ur self, because you without God its nothing, but God without you its still God.
following God commandments its not = following religios rules.
God him self can teach u, talk to u, its up to u to hear him, to stop and look around to see what hes saying to u, to let him guide ur life, religion doesn't save anyone, theres no error under God guidance, ONLY Jesus save.
if you thing that to be with God u have to blindly follow a religion, then ur wasted. that's what I call ignorence :D
Correct, but as soon as you employ fallacies yourself, you lose the high ground.Care to point out where I did that? I'm seriously curious, not trying to act like a douche or anything.
The drugs I like are for the strong-minded. Could the weak-minded handle the floor melting away beneath you while the walls breathe and the ceiling flows faster than a river? The strong-minded appreciate these alterations while putting them aside to meditate.I wouldn't call that strong-minded, that's just being intelligent enough to know that your altered mind state is wrong. I can't fathom what you would possibly meditate...
theres only 1, if u belive why don't u give a chance to ur self, yeah, to ur self, because you without are nothing, but God without you its still God.
he created us all free, he has power to control us, but hes not an invasor, hes at ur heart door, but u need to open, so he can enter.
theres only 1, if u belive why don't u give a chance to ur self, yeah, to ur self, because you without God its nothing, but God without you its still God.
he created us all free, he has power to control us, but hes not an invasor, hes at ur heart door, but u need to open, so he can enter.
I like to think about what would Goku or Jesus would act in a situation.
A long time ago I believe I made the strongest religious argument and someone put it on postquote.I remember that. :P
Yeah. They're probably aliens from outer space too. They use their superior mid controlling technology to control the masses and the only way to see through it is to do drugs.
I can basically sum this up as "You're crazy, therefore I'm correct." Even if you are correct, trying to make an ass out of someone isn't going to prove your point. In addition, not everything Grapes has said was necessarily wrong, it just wasn't presented well. There are problems in the US, but the real debate should be about how bad it really is. He can say it's shit all he want's, but he doesn't know what shit is.
Don't tell me that's the kind of poetic crap that fooled you into believing without evidence. And don't think I'll let that hint at Pascal's Wager slip by.I'm a live evidence, if u let him enter, u will se the difference, I can't convice u, I'm just sharing my point like everyone here.
I can basically sum this up as "You're crazy, therefore I'm correct." Even if you are correct, trying to make an ass out of someone isn't going to prove your point. In addition, not everything Grapes has said was necessarily wrong, it just wasn't presented well. There are problems in the US, but the real debate should be about how bad it really is. He can say it's shit all he want's, but he doesn't know what shit is.I wanted to make a joke and make a point at the same time. I can say a bunch of crazy stuff without proof too. It adds nothing to the conversation.
People eating other peoples faces:P I don't think that's a legitimate problem.
Let's turn the discussion back around then. What are the problems in the US? Everybody list them one by one to see if we agree on a few things.
Can't resist.I was agreeing with you until you put cats. Fuck you, cats are awesome!
In general: priorities, educational system, extortion, politics, tolerance, religion, social bigotry and all other forms of bigotry, the class system that does indeed exist, entitled people, stupid people, stupid people making all the decisions, law, studying law, sending brave soldiers into combat to see horrors beyond their imagination because you studied law, country music, rap music, the fact that Firefly was canceled, anything made in China, Walmart, people of Walmart, morons, imbiciles, people who can't spell imbeciles correctly, PITA, Twilight, politicians, ghost documentaries, Fox News, small dogs, cats and cat-like women, gas prices, ads, America's Army 3, and people who have more money than me. :)
:P I don't think that's a legitimate problem.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/man-eats-face-miami (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/man-eats-face-miami)I know the story, but if it only happens once in forever it's not really a problem. I would label it as a drug problem if anything. The U.S. does have a drug problem though, not only illegal drugs, but everyone is hopped up on prescription drugs.
I wanted to make a joke and make a point at the same time. I can say a bunch of crazy stuff without proof too. It adds nothing to the conversation.explaining anything to you needs a yellow pages sized book, like cleaning ur fish tank and the steps to clean it. and im not into presentation or how nice something is told to me. im not gonna say something for no reason. all of those problems you listed are reasons not to give your money to collegiate type organizations for something that should be given to you for free. the proof is in front of you if you choose to open your eyes to it. i shouldnt have to spoon feed it to you.
As for the problems in the U.S.
- Corrupt Government
- Too much corporate influence in politics
- Student loan crisis
- Too much national debt
That story was so absurd. I've done bath salts but was smart enough to not OD and go werewolf. And the story was trending on Twitter under the hashtag LSD! LSD wasn't even involved but the story was labeled as LSD. Drug ignorance pisses me off more than anything.this is happening more and more, like people are taking these drugs that are literally making them wiggout and act like zombies.
That story was so absurd. I've done bath salts but was smart enough to not OD and go werewolf. And the story was trending on Twitter under the hashtag LSD! LSD wasn't even involved but the story was labeled as LSD. Drug ignorance pisses me off more than anything.
explaining anything to you needs a yellow pages sized book, like cleaning ur fish tank and the steps to clean it. and im not into presentation or how nice something is told to me. im not gonna say something for no reason. all of those problems you listed are reasons not to give your money to collegiate type organizations for something that should be given to you for free. the proof is in front of you if you choose to open your eyes to it. i shouldnt have to spoon feed it to you.Explaining? You haven't explained a damn thing, just spewed theories that you cannot provide proof for.
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I hadn't heard about it until Skrewy mentioned something about zombie stuff happening in Florida. I thought you actually snorted real bath salts until I just now read the story and found out it's lingo. More drug lingo and ways that people get high just depresses me to know that weak people are coming up with new ways to combat their lack of self control. Future is dim I say.all drugs now are SHIT, ecstacy, cocaine, acid, they are all fake ass versions of the real stuff that is actually spread among the few who have the money to design and make their own quality drugs (in which they have to charge extremely high prices for quality). x now is caffine and worm pills (not real x), coke is no more than 15% of pure, the rest is all cut.
heroin was invented by bayer and was later pretty good in vietnam... in america however, it's not pure and it's incomprehensibly more dangerous hereNot quite true. It was created to be a non-addictive substitute for morphine. Long story short, they fucked up and it turned out to be even more addicting. That's why it is no longer used. It has nothing to do with how pure it is, even pure it's dangerous.
Explaining? You haven't explained a damn thing, just spewed theories that you cannot provide proof for.whats to explain? its like you explaining how you know for sure that your vote for president counts? did you literally count the votes yourself? are you in charge of secret service affairs?(besides prostitution) if the people who are in charge are breaking all the rules then what kind of proof that they arent doing the right thing do you need? do the police have to knock in your door without a warrant and take your family? choosing to look to the side when your goverment lies to you everyday is your decision. our country pays hackers to hack voting ballots , youtube, alex jones all that. its all part of a plan to keep us under control. we are like ants. one of us is easy to control, you get all of us versus you then your screwed.
whats to explain? its like you explaining how you know for sure that your vote for president counts? did you literally count the votes yourself? are you in charge of secret service affairs?(besides prostitution) if the people who are in charge are breaking all the rules then what kind of proof that they arent doing the right thing do you need? do the police have to knock in your door without a warrant and take your family? choosing to look to the side when your goverment lies to you everyday is your decision. our country pays hackers to hack voting ballots , youtube, alex jones all that. its all part of a plan to keep us under control. we are like ants. one of us is easy to control, you get all of us versus you then your screwed.First you say it's hard to explain stuff to me, now you say that you have nothing to explain? Do you even realize that you constantly contradict yourself? You can believe in your unproven theories based on nothing if you want, I'll be here in the real world believing things that have been proven.
not quite true. drugs are in this country because the CIA ushers them in. the CIA makes sure it's not pure. if it was pure, the opportunity to responsibly use heroin would be more likely. just saying more likely, not saying it would be safe or anythingAny proof for that. Oh wait, never mind. Don't even know why I bother asking anymore.
Any proof for that. Oh wait, never mind. Don't even know why I bother asking anymore.why would there be proof? i mean if you are in charge of something and you want to stay in charge, would you let the people you are in charge of know about bad shit your doing to them? in killamans world everyone is a carebear and nobody lies.
why would there be proof? i mean if you are in charge of something and you want to stay in charge, would you let the people you are in charge of know about bad shit your doing to them? in killamans world everyone is a carebear and nobody lies.Just letting you know, there's an invisible pink pony that follows you around everywhere. I have no proof, but it's there. Trust me on this. Would it want you to know it's there? No, so you don't know, but it's there.
you ever fly a plane into a building? i don't think the results are congruent with what happened on 9/11Since when did you know everything about planes, building materials, and collisions?
also before I try to change topic, understanding the chemistry of the substance greatly reduces the risk of overdose or complications
Just to show you how bad things are getting. Idk if you've ever heard of anonymous but if you havent heres a video. They are getting quite the following and i definitely support themThose bunch of talentless low life idiots that do nothing useful? Why would you support them?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzd7ghSg3w&feature=related[/youtube]
Just letting you know, there's an invisible pink pony that follows you around everywhere. I have no proof, but it's there. Trust me on this. Would it want you to know it's there? No, so you don't know, but it's there.if i died in hour from now i'd have no regrets, would you? since your life has been so fulfilling and you have lived to the fullets studying engineering. do you feel like that is all to your life? going to school, to get a high paying job?
This is almost comical now. You have 0 reasons to believe such a thing exists yet you're defending it like it's been proven. Is this a side effect of doing drugs? Because you're pulling theories out of nowhere just because they fit your paranoid views.
whose in charge of the united nations? who dictate what other countries do?Actually, there are a lot more countries in the UN, just the big ones are on the security council. The UN doesn't do shit anyways. It's a useless organization.
oh wait the super powers that have the 'say so' . US, CHINA, RUSSIA, Uk the ones with all the money and all the power.
if i died in hour from now i'd have no regrets, would you? since your life has been so fulfilling and you have lived to the fullets studying engineering. do you feel like that is all to your life? going to school, to get a high paying job?What does that have to do with my post? Is this all you do? Avoid anything I post by posting something completely irrelevant?
if i died in hour from now i'd have no regrets, would you? since your life has been so fulfilling and you have lived to the fullets studying engineering. do you feel like that is all to your life? going to school, to get a high paying job?oh your banking on retirement? correct? chances are you'll probably have a hearattack before you even retire.
The UN is wonderful, it allows countries that aren't US/UK/France to have a voice and it doesn't appreciate the shenanigans Israel is pulling. What's not to love?It doesn't do anything important though. It's an organization that spends a lot of money sitting around talking about giving countries sanctions that usually never gets done. Hell the UN has yet to do anything about Syria.
Actually, there are a lot more countries in the UN, just the big ones are on the security council. The UN doesn't do shit anyways. It's a useless organization.the countires that have the power of the UN are the ones that have the most power and money, coincidence?proof? theres only 11 countires that are part of the UN. they make the rules for the entire world to follow, and they enforce them with the help of each super powers army (CHINA, USA, RUSSIA, UK). afghanistan is also a newly added UN groupie. i dont think they have much power over the others. the organization is part of that new world order shit its their motto.
What does that have to do with my post? Is this all you do? Avoid anything I post by posting something completely irrelevant?your post dont make no any sense. u answer a question with a question everytime.
I don't really keep up on world news, I have no interest in what's going on in Syria. Our government is probably at fault for whatever is happening there and I don't wanna stress myself out by knowing all the shit my own country is responsible for.The U.S. has nothing to do with it. The Syrian government has been slaughtering its own people in attempts to kill off a small rebel group. The UN tried to do something but Russia kept voting their plans down.
too bad i couldnt discuss this face to face becuase i gurantee you wouldnt say some of those stupid comments to my face, always saying im contradicting, always asking for something everyone gave you 100 times over. 'how is there proof? how is there proof? u must take a dump, flush the toilet, and ask yourself wheres the proof it came out of ur arse since you think it smells soo good already.Wow. You make RonnyLay looks super intelligent.
I don't really keep up on world news, I have no interest in what's going on in Syria. Our government is probably at fault for whatever is happening there and I don't wanna stress myself out by knowing all the shit my own country is responsible for.yup
The U.S. has nothing to do with it. The Syrian government has been slaughtering its own people in attempts to kill off a small rebel group. The UN tried to do something but Russia kept voting their plans down.
I would be willing to bet the US has something to do with this. We like to stick our nose up everyones ass in the world. "well we cant solve our own problems so lets go mess everyone else up too"Come on, you can't be serious...... Even when it is painfully obvious they're not involved, you still try to blame it on the U.S. Pathetic.
blind patriotismBlind hatred. I'll admit the U.S. does many things wrong, but to say they have a part in something they obviously don't is paranoid even by your standards.
Blind hatred. I'll admit the U.S. does many things wrong, but to say they have a part in something they obviously don't is paranoid even by your standards.
Wow. You make RonnyLay looks super intelligent.IDGAF bout ronnieghey. you always acting like your einstien and mr. know it all. i grew up thristy for money on the street having to rob and steal and sell dope in order to pay my cracked out moms bills, you think i care about some smartass remarks. ill teach you some intelligent shit, like how to survive when you dont got shit but the clothes on your back. i made it out that life by getting over on square ass fools like you who think they know everything. i never fucked nobody that didnt already have it coming thats for dayummmm sure.
how would you know what our country is and isnt involved in?? so many things happen that nobody ever knows about. Do you know how many ops seal teams go on that nobody will ever know about? You dont have a clue so stop trying to act like you do lol.Do you even know about the Syria conflict? I'm assuming you don't, because it has nothing to do with the U.S. If anything, Russia is the one involved in the conflict seeing as it's on their border and they have a military base there.
Do you even know about the Syria conflict? I'm assuming you don't, because it has nothing to do with the U.S. If anything, Russia is the one involved in the conflict seeing as it's on their border and they have a military base there.we cant even protect our own border, so why the hell are they in the middle east.
You say I don't have a clue yet you just assume the U.S. is involved in everything. You don't have a clue either. The only difference is my view is based on facts I've seen and not a blind hatred for the U.S.
IDGAF bout ronnieghey. you always acting like your einstien and mr. know it all. i grew up thristy for money on the street having to rob and steal and sell dope in order to pay my cracked out moms bills, you think i care about some smartass remarks. ill teach you some intelligent shit, like how to survive when you dont got shit but the clothes on your back. i made it out that life by getting over on square ass fools like you who think they know everything. i never fucked nobody that didnt already have it coming thats for dayummmm sure.Again with something that isn't related to the topic. I don't think of myself to be all that intelligence. I'm probably around average. I also definitely don't know everything. As a matter of fact, I know very little. The fact is, I know enough to not believe every crazy theory that exists. That's common sense, which you apparently lack. But it's OK if you want to live your life believing in something that isn't there, more power to you, just don't try to pass it off as fact like you've been doing.
we cant even protect our own border, so why the hell are they in the middle east.Again, that has NOTHING to do with my post, which wasn't even directed at you anyways.
Again with something that isn't related to the topic. I don't think of myself to be all that intelligence. I'm probably around average. I also definitely don't know everything. As a matter of fact, I know very little. The fact is, I know enough to not believe every crazy theory that exists. That's common sense, which you apparently lack. But it's OK if you want to live your life believing in something that isn't there, more power to you, just don't try to pass it off as fact like you've been doing.common sense is what? support my policticians who havent given back to the schools my kids go to? they give back to the rich schools their kids go to.basically look out for your own, which is what i know because thats what our supposedly common sense law makers are doing everyday. how do you know something isnt there?
Do you even know about the Syria conflict? I'm assuming you don't, because it has nothing to do with the U.S. If anything, Russia is the one involved in the conflict seeing as it's on their border and they have a military base there.
You say I don't have a clue yet you just assume the U.S. is involved in everything. You don't have a clue either. The only difference is my view is based on facts I've seen and not a blind hatred for the U.S.
Again, that has NOTHING to do with my post, which wasn't even directed at you anyways.quoted the wrong person, but anyways its COMMON SENSE, that if we cant protect the mexican/us border then gtfo out of countries halfway across the world and come home to where are citizens are to protect your border. oh wait mexico dont have oil we can steal. nvm stay in middle east....
common sense is what? support my policticians who havent given back to the schools my kids go to? they give back to the rich schools their kids go to.basically look out for your own, which is what i know because thats what our supposedly common sense law makers are doing everyday. how do you know something isnt there?There is physical evidence that air exists. There is physical evidence that radio waves and wifi exists. You can see them using technology. I can't believe you just compared physical things to conspiracy theories. That proves how little you actually know. Also, public schools are funded by taxes from the city they're in. The richer the city means the more taxes, meaning the more money gets spent on schools. It has very little to do with politicians.
when you breathe in air you cannot see it? yet you know its there? correct? radio waves? wifi internet? can you see them smartass with common sense that can see radio waves?
Ther eis physical evidence that air exists. There is physical evidence that radio waves and wifi exists. You can see them using technology. I can't believe you just compared physical things to conspiracy theories. That proves how little you actually know. Also, public schools are funded by taxes from the city they're in. The richer the city means the more taxes, meaning the more money gets spent on schools. It has very little to do with politicians.now your contradicting yourself, first its you cant believe in something you cant see, but we all see this country stealing the oil from the middle east and we all see the price gouging. there is proof and evidence large profit from price gouging is making billionaires and very many wealthy people more wealthy. so what turn your head and look the other way and you cant see it?
now your contradicting yourself, first its you cant believe in something you cant see, but we all see this country stealing the oil from the middle east and we all see the price gouging. there is proof and evidence large profit from price gouging is making billionaires and very many wealthy people more wealthy. so what turn your head and look the other way and you cant see it?When was I talking about the middle east? I don't ever recall bringing that up. Again, you keep changing the topic to avoid my points. It's quite humorous.
your post didn't have any questionsSince when did a post need to contain a question to make a point? He's literally not responding to ANY of my points, questions or not. He just dodges them and posts more conspiracy bullshit.
There is physical evidence that air exists. There is physical evidence that radio waves and wifi exists. You can see them using technology. I can't believe you just compared physical things to conspiracy theories. That proves how little you actually know. Also, public schools are funded by taxes from the city they're in. The richer the city means the more taxes, meaning the more money gets spent on schools. It has very little to do with politicians.well how does one see love? im sure you have told a domestic parter that you love them. yet do you see love? do you measure it with a tool? or technology? just because you cant see love dont mean its not there. again wtf are u even saying, other than trying to disprove any little thing i say. cuz u arent making sense. and dont bs about schools and how they get money over here. i dont think you know what your talking about what so ever.it dont matter if a school is in a area where taxes arent enough to pay. our country is supposed to be about equality and equal opportunity. everything you say got nothing to do with that.
When was I talking about the middle east? I don't ever recall bringing that up. Again, you keep changing the topic to avoid my points. It's quite humorous.i never said you brang up the middle east, it was a metaphor for how you dont have to actually see something for it to actually be there. YOUR HUMOUROUS with your attitude trying to talk down to people on a gaming forum.
well how does one see love? im sure you have told a domestic parter that you love them. yet do you see love? do you measure it with a tool? or technology? just because you cant see love dont mean its not there. again wtf are u even saying, other than trying to disprove any little thing i say. cuz u arent making sense. and dont bs about schools and how they get money over here. i dont think you know what your talking about what so ever.it dont matter if a school is in a area where taxes arent enough to pay. our country is supposed to be about equality and equal opportunity. everything you say got nothing to do with that.You bring up an excellent point with love and other such emotions, the first decent point you've made. Research has show that certain brain activity is what triggers emotion like love and happiness. Everything you feel and think is due to chemical reactions in your brain. That's not the same as making up a conspiracy theory and saying it's true because it suits your twisted view of the world. There is no physical evidence that those theories are correct, there is physical evidence that love is real.
i never said you brang up the middle east, it was a metaphor for how you can dont have to actually see something for it to actually be there. YOUR HUMOUROUS with your attitude trying to talk down to people on a gaming forum.I'm not trying to talk down to you, any sense of me talking down to you is strictly from your side. I can see why it would look like that though. My posts are using logic while you are just throwing out random conspiracy theories not supported by logic.
You bring up an excellent point with love and other such emotions, the first decent point you've made. Research has show that certain brain activity is what triggers emotion like love and happiness. Everything you feel and think is due to chemical reactions in your brain. That's not the same as making up a conspiracy theory and saying it's true because it suits your twisted view of the world. There is no physical evidence that those theories are correct, there is physical evidence that love is real.so your saying there is no physical evidence that our country is letting private corporations gouge gas prices for their own wellbeing and their own profit? bill clinton didnt get slurped by monica lewinsky just like he said too.
so your saying there is no physical evidence that our country is letting private corporations gouge gas prices for their own wellbeing and their own profit? bill clinton didnt get slurped by monica lewinsky just like he said too.I'm not saying there is no evidence, I'm asking for the evidence. It's your job to prove that it's happening since you're the one saying so. Show me the evidence and I will gladly admit you're right. Also, the government doesn't have the power to force corporations to change gas prices.
I'm not trying to talk down to you, any sense of me talking down to you is strictly from your side. I can see why it would look like that though. My posts are using logic while you are just throwing out random conspiracy theories not supported by logic.your 500 year old logic vs. 100 million years of evolution. people no days think they are smarter than every other generation when 30,000 years ago they knew 10 times the amount of information we have now, perhaps they did not have the same technological devices that we know them as, yet far more advanced than us. havent you seen rocks the size of houses that are carbon dated hundreds of thousands of years that halve been moved to an area where that rock is impossible to move with todays technology? not to mention the perfect laser like cuts the rock sculptures have? idk what kind of proof you need? psychiatrist for denial
after all this discussion I am glad we all agree Australia is the greatest place in the world
I'm not saying there is no evidence, I'm asking for the evidence. It's your job to prove that it's happening since you're the one saying so. Show me the evidence and I will gladly admit you're right. Also, the government doesn't have the power to force corporations to change gas prices.government can do whatever they want. they have the power to stop genocide in africa but choose not to. so they definately not gonna make their buddies change the gas prices.
Where are the fossils and evidence of these past civilizations. There is none, now fuck off back to the jungle you stupid fuck.theres tons of shit u idiot. dont u watch history channel dumfuk. change ur name to bitchs,
Throwing money at africa wont solve SHIT. Please fuck off back to the jungle.where did i mention throwing money?, u must be killas butt buddy.
No I dont watch a channel pandering to idiots. I read scientific studies from well regarded sources. Fuck off jungle boy.i didnt know killamans arse hole was a regarded source.... where u live i fly southwest free, come to me or ill come to you? swing ropes eat bannas? or u cant handle the jungle?
why not israel?
why else would u yanky doodles be so gung ho to protect it
I think I broke him guys. Feel free to come to Australia, our women are hot and sitting on the toilet can get you killed.austrailian? you wouldnt make it 5 minutes outside my house. all the jungles boys would be up your skirt taking your fosters from you. im soo worried u might throw shrimps on the barbie! plz dont! im so worried! women in austrailia bang kangaroos u filthy savages. we got hoodrats, hoes, lttle skanks in oakland. sell you some pussy from one of these hoes having you coming back for more, and the dough is coming back to me.
There is physical evidence that air exists. There is physical evidence that radio waves and wifi exists. You can see them using technology. I can't believe you just compared physical things to conspiracy theories. That proves how little you actually know. Also, public schools are funded by taxes from the city they're in. The richer the city means the more taxes, meaning the more money gets spent on schools. It has very little to do with politicians.
east oakland 94th and sunnyside, ill be there for who wants to come talk shit. not over the internet like a school girl. wanna talk jungle games plz id love to introduce you to my group of associates.
only if they wear suits and shake my hand when i get therebalck tall t blue jeans hoody, j's i've worn the same exact thing everyday for 8 years, (buying new shit everyweek) havent seen a cell either. if you have money you stay outta jail. idc if i had a billion dollarss id wear the same shit. like i have been. every real ass motherfucker up over here wears the same shit because its hard to identify one person when 20,000 people wear the same shit. its like wearing a uniform at school. most of you probably got no idea wtf im talking about. lol this whole post is confusing for you tards.
youso stupid i write from side to side, wtf this isnt a chinese news paper bitch. plz come see me id love to teach so many of you some real manners. ill give you the address hoe
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lol, there's 5 more pages since this morning. I'm on page 15 and probably won't read the rest. I've said all I can about various topics but I'll say again;
Drugs are just for the weak. They're not necessary to life unless you have no control over your own life and can't deal with a little emotional hurt or a bit of depression. The only purpose illegal drugs have is for legitimate marijuana patients with chronic pain that otherwise couldn't live a normal life and for whom surgery is not an option. That's the only place. To use drugs is to abuse them and abuse your body. Who has done generational studies on neurological functions of people exposed to various drugs? The health risks are just too high. It's funny because the only people that use drugs are incredibly selfish yet they don't care about their own health.
why do you need to waste your money & health on it in the first place? Because you're weak. Simple.
No soda or energy drinks because of the same health bullshit
1. Caffeine is bad, I don't touch it
2. THC works for me. I smoke weed because I like it and because everything is better when you're high.
3. Mushrooms are my favorite. They brought me enlightenment and spiritual awakening. They also cured my depression and allowed me to be happy. I've been happy for almost a year now and it's been the best year of my life. I tried mushrooms for the first time almost a year ago.
Actually Koden it's the opposite, I do drugs that open my mind. New doorways and corridors within the mind are opened for you to explore. You find out more about yourself and the world.Do you really believe that? It's not reality, it's something your mind makes up, like a dream.
Y'all should look into DMT. DMT is the biggest discovery since fire. If you want answers, DMT can give them to you. If you want to look into the future or talk to God or anything like that... smoke some weed & DMT.
You know what i think about drugs? I don't care if you use them, just stop telling me about it. Unfortunately very few drug users follow this and always feel the need to let you know that they use drugs.
Smoking DMT > Dreaming.It's still the same thing. None of it is reality. You're not looking into the future, you're not talking to god, it's all chemical reactions in your brain.
Although I think dreaming is also great for answers about yourself. Well... they used to be. Now I'm too good at lucid dreaming and I just fly around or jump into the sky or stuff like that.
Anyway I need to go buy a cooling stand or pad or something for lappy, I'll be back later to read the pages on pages of replies to this thread.
I'm not sure all of the drugs makes for a person to be willing to talk about them. I think some of the heavier ones do the opposite. It might positive if you can get a person to talk about the reason behind and not just the drug itself.I agree that there is a point where people who use more dangerous drugs don't want to admit it. I'm talking about less harmful drugs though, weed, LSD, shrooms, what not. Users of those drugs like to let you know they use them, almost as if they think they're cooler because of it. They will needlessly throw it into a conversation and make you want to punch them in the face. I had a friend who used to do that, but then he quit doing drugs.
lol, there's 5 more pages since this morning. I'm on page 15 and probably won't read the rest. I've said all I can about various topics but I'll say again;been a cannabis patient since 16, got sciatica extremely bad, slipped disk, and arthritis in my spine. as well as bolts on both my hips since age 12, (ball/socket was popping out on one side so they pinned them for life). i was very athletic before the surgery at 12 (swim team, baseball, basketball, mototcross scooter cross) , after that major surgery with the bolts i declined in everything that was physical, thats how i started to play AA. im just have severe back pains so i smoke regularly, (and get donated trees too) ^---^
Drugs are just for the weak. They're not necessary to life unless you have no control over your own life and can't deal with a little emotional hurt or a bit of depression. The only purpose illegal drugs have is for legitimate marijuana patients with chronic pain that otherwise couldn't live a normal life and for whom surgery is not an option. That's the only place. To use drugs is to abuse them and abuse your body. Who has done generational studies on neurological functions of people exposed to various drugs? The health risks are just too high. It's funny because the only people that use drugs are incredibly selfish yet they don't care about their own health.
Your example is really good. I drink water, tea, coffee and milk. That's it. No soda or energy drinks because of the same health bullshit. Just because they're legal doesn't mean they're good for you. Fact is, your lungs aren't meant to work on pot smoke. I've not come across any studies on lung capacity for someone who regularly smokes pot, I don't know if any exist. There's other issues too like infertility.watch 'super high me'
1. Caffeine is bad, I don't touch it
2. THC works for me. I smoke weed because I like it and because everything is better when you're high.
3. Mushrooms are my favorite. They brought me enlightenment and spiritual awakening. They also cured my depression and allowed me to be happy. I've been happy for almost a year now and it's been the best year of my life. I tried mushrooms for the first time almost a year ago.
I don't particularly like Caffeine either. I don't drink coffee and tea for it, I drink them for the flavor and enjoyment. I'm not sure about any health benefit but I think it's pretty clear there's no health decline. Caffeine might do bad for your heart but the tea and coffee themselves, don't do any bad.
Here's the thing about pot, I wouldn't really have a problem with it if you enjoyed it once or twice a week and grew it yourself, organically and no bullshit. Most people don't do that though. It's a drug that funds crime because it is illegal. It's also well over abused because a lot of people smoke it to make their crappy lives better and they need more and more because the body gets used to it, just like alcohol. I'm with Killaman on it too, if you do it privately, grow it yourself and smoke infrequently, there's really nothing bad I can say about that. It's people that boast, it's people that abuse, it's people that fund crime, those are the cores of the problem that I have.
Mushrooms... enlightenment can be knowledge, you can go read a book or talk to people, share ideas for the same thing IMO. Spiritual stuff is crap, I don't believe in it and that's as far as I'll comment. I'm glad that for whatever reason, you are living a happy life, that's what it's all about anyway. I just wonder that if mushrooms DID fix that for you, can the other drugs do the opposite in a worse way? We don't really understand the brain and the complex workings and relationships it has to our body.
Props to Grapes for quitting cigarettes. Good on you man.
I still don't see how drugs are a necessity in life and quite frankly, that's what you paint them to be AJ. Did you ever try that being sober for a week thing? Making a diary log about physical and mental changes? I don't think you have and I know I don't know you very well personally and I certainly don't know your body but I don't think you could be totally sober for a week.
Drugs are called Drugs for a reason, personally I think theres no difference between a mushroom and crack...... Not sure if serious.
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Props to Grapes for quitting cigarettes. Good on you man.
To extend on that, I've got no real problem with your situation. I understand and accept marijuana use for those in chronic pain that NEED marijuana in order to function normally and have productive lives. You understand the issues with drugs as well as the health risks and you're being a responsible parent by wanting to sacrifice the quality of life that the marijuana gives you in order to try and keep your kids out of the drug user environment.
Respect for you.
Or caffeine. Or Advil.
See, I don't do Advil either. That stuff will mess with your liver pretty good.stay away from all pills, when i was 16 and and i was having intense nback spasm i was on 5 darvacet and 5 somas everyday for months, however i was highly addicted and my liver/intestines were messed up from taking that stuff everyday, even though my doctors highly recomended it.
stay away from all pills, when i was 16 and and i was having intense nback spasm i was on 5 darvacet and 5 somas everyday for months, however i was highly addicted and my liver/intestines were messed up from taking that stuff everyday, even though my doctors highly recomended it.Doctors highly recommend them because that's how they make money. They don't always have your best interests in mind.
Doctors highly recommend them because that's how they make money. They don't always have your best interests in mind.i learned a hard lesson with that. im not saying weed is good for everyone but if your constantly having to take pills id make the change to pot. when you think about it, the fact that weed is not legal and used as medicine only makes our law makers guilty of taking part in BIG PHARMA's commercializing of medication. obviously weed is free to grow and can be grown anywhere (inddor/outdoor depending on weather conditions) so it seems that they purposly dont let people use weed growweed for medication as wide spread and easily as it should be used (not saying at all because obviously in some states its ok to some extent), in order to make money selling us highly addictive and poisionous persciption meds. somethings are so frustrating.
i learned a hard lesson with that. im not saying weed is good for everyone but if your constantly having to take pills id make the change to pot. when you think about it, the fact that weed is not legal and used as medicine only makes our law makers guilty of taking part in BIG PHARMA's commercializing of medication. obviously weed is free to grow and can be grown anywhere (inddor/outdoor depending on weather conditions) so it seems that they purposly dont let people use weed growweed for medication as wide spread and easily as it should be used (not saying at all because obviously in some states its ok to some extent), in order to make money selling us highly addictive and poisionous persciption meds. somethings are so frustrating.
..... Not sure if serious.the purpose of using Crack it's the same as using mushrooms as an hallucinogenic, for most of the ppl they are different, but for me they are in the same level, that's my point. ;D
the purpose of using Crack it's the same as using mushrooms as an hallucinogenic, for most of the ppl they are different, but for me they are in the same level, that's my point. ;D
I hope "Crack" has the same meaning as here(same word).
As a person that wouldn't ever and hasn't ever used either, how aren't they the same? They're just drugs..The effects are completely different.
crack is definitely NOT the same as mushrooms lol. Not even closeI said "as an hallucinogenic".
As a person that wouldn't ever and hasn't ever used either, how aren't they the same? They're just drugs..true in some way or form, however mushrooms only mess with your mind, while crack can give you heart attacks and what not. i dont think shrooms can do that to someone.
The effects are completely different.
Yeah grapes is right. Also mushrooms are natural. They grow without anyone having to plant them or anything. They are not harmful to you at all. Well thats to say you dont do anything stupid to get yourself killed while on them :Pmost of the mushrooms are a poison :D
most of the mushrooms are a poison :Dsomep lants are posionous, but we also eat lots of plants as well that are not poisionous.
somep lants are posionous, but we also eat lots of plants as well that are not poisionous.I think he was just making a joke.
I think he was just making a joke.was what i said an untrue statement?
Psilocybin mushrooms fuck up your liver really bad. Saying they are perfectly safe is ignorance. Continued use of mushrooms has been proven to cause liver failure. I have nothing against people who experiment with substances but when you start using all day or every weekend it just seems pathetic to me. I have tried shrooms and weed before and both times I didn't really enjoy myself that much even though I was in a safe familiar environment. I just don't get what the hype was all about.i ate shrooms everyday for over a month haha. my liver was all good.
I think he was just making a joke.u can only eat specific types of mushrooms, the rest has poison :D
u can only eat specific types of mushrooms, the rest has poison :DYeah, but you said it as a joke in reference to what Max said, not as a mean to prove him wrong.
Yeah, but you said it as a joke in reference to what Max said, not as a mean to prove him wrong.lack of language knowledgment ;D
You know what i think about drugs? I don't care if you use them, just stop telling me about it. Unfortunately very few drug users follow this and always feel the need to let you know that they use drugs.
i ate shrooms everyday for over a month haha. my liver was all good.
Oh, so you've had your liver removed, examined and biopsied? Neat!lol, i was awake during that procedure as well! i meant that I have never had any liver problems, however i eat alot of vegetables and try to stay away from grains and carbohydrates. its called Primal type eating, where you only eat certain meats and lots of plants.