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No....... I simply cannot believe that you just posted a link to infowars........

Let's go to a conspiracy theory site to try to prove a conspiracy theory is correct! Either way, nothing was really even in that article.

OMFG I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU JUST CALLED ME OUT ON SOMETHING THAT I ADDED A DISCLAIMER FOR I BETTER CALL YOU OUT ON THAT TOO BECAUSE THE PROPER WAY TO WIN A DEBATE IS THROUGH ACCUSATION AND BELITTLING

Why would you post something that doesn't support what you want to say though? Isn't that just a waste of a post? Why post it if it wasn't serious?

You make the incorrect assumption that I see you as foe in this discussion. I don't really support Alex Jones or InfoWars. I don't like to be handfed my beliefs, I like to develop them on my own.

I myself was unaware of the Georgia Guide Stones and reading the wiki didn't really get me what I wanted to know. I knew that InfoWars would have something to say, so I checked it out. Copy URL, paste URL, submit post... read article, edit in my genuine surprise that it wasn't filled with accusations and suspicion that Alex Jones isn't as trustworthy as most people who listen to his radio show believe. I posted that the article was "pretty useless" to which you responded "nothing was really even in that article". Who's wasting posts now?

Both of us because this is a useless argument. I was posting under the assumption that you knew what they were. I said they proved nothing and I assumed you posted that to try to show me what they proved. Obviously I was wrong.

I love how my post spawned a rant between AJ and Killaman I didn't bother reading pages 2 & 3. I simply just don't care. You can't change government and to get involved in politics is a fools game. How has it improved your life by knowing (or assuming or believing) what goes on in politics and government? I don't watch the news or keep up to date on politics because neither offer any benefit to me. It's all purely depressing and none of it affects me. Sure prices at the store go up and down but so what? It is what it is and again, you can't change it.

I love how my post spawned a rant between AJ and Killaman I didn't bother reading pages 2 & 3. I simply just don't care. You can't change government and to get involved in politics is a fools game. How has it improved your life by knowing (or assuming or believing) what goes on in politics and government? I don't watch the news or keep up to date on politics because neither offer any benefit to me. It's all purely depressing and none of it affects me. Sure prices at the store go up and down but so what? It is what it is and again, you can't change it.

Not really a rant. No insults were thrown or anything, unless you count calling someone brainwashed to be an insult. Basically all page 3 is so far is a big misunderstanding.

It is what it is and again, you can't change it.

Not the best mentality. Can't say you're wrong though.

OK, and some weird guy could have just built those to get his own beliefs out. How exactly does that prove anything?

Lol, well it wasn't 1 guy. we are talking over 100 tons of stone. Not to mention eight languages engraved on it, and geometrically arranged and have 3 holes that line up with certain stars and the sun. all done anonymously.  And to top it all off, these arent ancient by any means. Now, even in like the 1980s (estimated time they popped up), you needed building permits, contract with people who are building or at very least, a deed to the land which your building it on. But not in this case they are anonymous.

Whoever put it there, obviously wanted it to be heard...doubt they engraved the same 10 lines over and over in eight languages for practice.... and the spot it was put in was very precise. And whoever put this there, had two things, A) Power/influence B) Money.

point: looking at something out of the ordinary, and simply sayin 'oh one weird guy could of put there there' and going on without an ounce of thought more put into it, makes anything easy to disregard....kinda like how OJ got off 'oh the glove didnt fit, no more questions, case closed'.


I'd recommend looking into yourself, look at multiple sources. but heres a non-conspiracy one to start.(hopefully not too biased for ya)

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4198

You can't change government and to get involved in politics is a fools game. How has it improved your life by knowing (or assuming or believing) what goes on in politics and government? I don't watch the news or keep up to date on politics because neither offer any benefit to me. It's all purely depressing and none of it affects me. Sure prices at the store go up and down but so what? It is what it is and again, you can't change it.

1. Think it improved my life greatly. I voice my opinion, when I the Representatives are voting on something i agree or disagree with, i call them, state my opinion and which way i think they should vote. Granted, they dont listen, but if the majority of other callers said the same thing it would cause influence on which way they vote. Usually your representatives wont vote against the people. (although it has happened in the past)

2. I don't care for much news, local news and such is depressing. other than world news. I think its important to know what's happening in the world around you. Without other countries trading with us, we would fall on our faces. And I believe its important to know what future leaders plan on doing and how it will affect us as a whole.

3. Sure, I'm just one person, my point of view is probably worth less than 2 cents. But I'm a pretty strong believer in our constitution, and after sitting back and 'whatevering' my life away like everybody else, things happened that Ive had no clue about. Our constitutional rights were being used as a door mat. And each year, seems we lose more and more. Guess one day, shortly after we invaded Iraq, something happened... somethin felt different.... I started to give a fuck... about the 'why?' the 'how?' and the 'what?'and I am proud to be one that fights to keep what we got, and try and restore what we lost. End this with quotes from some good men.

'What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?'

'The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. '
~Thomas Jefferson

'Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.'
~Benjamin Franklin

edit: sorry for major delayed response, was workin.

i respect your beliefs and understand. I live in a pretty laid back community, people from all over getting along in one community. I really enjoy living here. Lot of people with similar views (i know, this community is pretty sweet for me and i would of never guessed I would be so lucky)... and your right, not much you can do about world wide news... just interesting to me, feel its important. and I'm glad you brought the iran having nukes thing up, only because I looked into this right when it hit the news.... turns out in my research, i believe its very unlikely they have nukes, and looking to invade is for greater reasons.... kind of like how we invaded iraq because we 'knew' they had WMD... (funny how history only repeats itself)... even went as far as watchin speaches of Iranian president at a UN meeting... turns out, nothing came out of his mouth saying 'iran is better than america' or 'i hate america, we got nukes'...instead, he openly said they can come look, because it would be stupid for Iran to build 1 or even 10 nukes when theres 500 pointed back at us'... sorry, off topic... but thats why shit like that is important to me.... i have some urge to know the truth behind the media I guess. I guess I also feel compassion for those that are invaded and lose everything, over greed.

umm and rights being lost, its slow, but its sure...

1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH
• The Patriot Act broadly expands the official definition of
terrorism, so that many domestic groups that engage in
nonviolent civil disobedience could very well find themselves
labeled as terrorists.
• The Government may now prosecute librarians or keepers
of any other records if they reveal that the government
requested information on their clients or members in the
course of an investigation. It has become a crime for these
individuals to try to safeguard your privacy or to tell you
that you are under investigation.

1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION
• Government agents may now monitor the First Amendment protected
activities of religious and political institutions, and
then infiltrate these groups with no suspicion of criminal
activity. This is a return to domestic spying on law-abiding
religious and political groups.
• You may now be the subject of a government investigation
simply because of the political, activist, or advocacy
groups you are involved in, or the statements you make
within these groups.
1st AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ACCESS
GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
• A U.S. Department of Justice directive actively encourages
federal, state, and local officials to resist and/or limit access
to government records through Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) requests.
• The Government has conducted immigration hearings in
secret behind closed doors. Such proceedings were once
open to the public. Hundreds, if not thousands, of immigrants
have already been deported in secret.


4th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE
SEARCHES &SEIZURES
• Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office
without showing “probable cause.” They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is “a significant
purpose” of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may also
monitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recording
every e-mail address and website you have been in contact with.
• Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor,
employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation into
“terrorism.” The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government.
• Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges to
consent to secret searches based only on the Government’s assertion that a “significant” purpose of
an investigation is gathering information related to “terrorism,” as the government defines it.

http://www.nyclu.org/pdfs/eroding_liberty.pdf

but all thats old news, you should look up the National Defense Authorization Act signed just this year, by yours truely, obama.... all sugar coded for war on terrorism. But what it boils down to, is Anybody, including american citizens, that are deemed terrorist by the government, can be arrested and prosecuted accordingly, with no right to be heard in court or infront of a judge. This is what im talking about when i say our constitutional rights have become a door mat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/

sorry for the long ass rant, but thats why this shits important to me. the world outside my mountains.

thanks for reading, educate yourself.

edit: last quote in previous post had nothing to do with joining the military. lol, i wont either. had to do with being american, upholding your rights so you or your grandchildren can live free and comfortable one day.

wow. once again, i can honestly respect  your views spanky... and understand how its not much concern for you... but i just have to ask, none of that seems wrong to you? Basically no privacy rights? Its all gravy? really? Im not tryin to bash or anything, its just... when i see shit like this, people losing rights, the pit of my stomach turns, my blood pumps a little faster and i stand with my dick in my hand thinkin 'wtf, how could this even happen?'...... guess its just me. I can understand a criminal stealing my information.... but the government? I believe that these stomps on the constitution were predicted long ago, by people like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson... that they were trying to warn us, when you give up rights because of 'fear from some boogy man' you lose everything this country was founded on.... and it kinda saddens me that not many people are willing to take a stand for what they believe... simply dont care or lost hope about america's future... as long as i get paid every 2 weeks and pay my bills, the world can do whatever. Guess the values of standing up for what you believe and upholding the American rights got swept under the door mat (...the constitution itself, same door mat)


And skrewy, sad to say, but your probably right... as history proves usually takes a revolution to get any kind of change... Guess I hold onto the optimism that maybe one day it could be changed without violence.

oh and sorry got to bring this up spanky, bugged me a lil.... i know you probably wrote 'cool rocks, i agree with everything on them' lightly/jokingly... but from a serious perspective, if those rules of the rocks went into effect tomorrow, it would be cool? maybe you would be picked to be one of the 500 mil, but what if your brother wasnt fit enough? or your dad wasnt pure enough? and there was somebody who more fit and pure than your mother? and somebody else played God of who lives and who dies, you simply got no choice.... just saying, when you look into it, its a fucked up thought.

thanks again for reading, and also thank you for expressing your views without flame or bash