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Assisted Suicide?
« on: Tuesday, April 05, 2011, 16:59:05 PM »
NEW YORK – A man convicted of murdering a debt-ridden motivational speaker was sentenced Monday to at least two decades in prison in a case that tested the bounds of assisted suicide.
Speaking publicly for the first time about Jeffrey Locker's July 2009 death, Kenneth Minor said his own life had "ended that day" that he accepted Locker's offer to pay to be killed in a seeming robbery so his family could collect millions of dollars in insurance money.
"In the end, Mr. Locker is where he wanted to be," said Minor, 38, his voice sometimes breaking as he spoke. "I'm no animal, and I ain't got no malice in my heart."
This case was unusual for broaching the concept of assisted suicide in the context of strangers staging a seeming street crime.
Locker approached Minor on an East Harlem street to ask for help staging his death, both prosecutors and Minor had said. Minor didn't testify at his trial but told his account to police when he was arrested.
Locker, 52, co-authored a 1998 self-help book and gave presentations on handling workplace stress. But he was deep in financial trouble himself, partly because of his investment in a $300 million Ponzi scheme run by Backstreet Boys and `N Sync mastermind Lou Pearlman.
Locker had laid plans for his demise, including researching funeral arrangements online, sending his wife an email explaining how to shield and distribute their assets "when I am gone" and buying about $14 million in life insurance in his final months to add to $4 million he already had, investigators found.
Minor was a down-and-out stranger, a former computer technician with a record of drug arrests. He said he initially balked at Locker's request but started to feel sorry for him after hearing about his money troubles.
Prosecutors said Minor went beyond aiding suicide by stabbing the 52-year-old Locker seven times in the self-help expert's car in East Harlem, miles from his home on suburban Long Island. Minor was arrested a few days later after using Locker's ATM card — his compensation from Locker, he said.
"This was murder for money, not a mercy killing," Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. said after Minor's conviction last month.


Minor said he only held a knife while Locker repeatedly lunged into it.


"I'm not suggesting that what Mr. Minor did is correct or right," his lawyer, Daniel J. Gotlin, told the court Monday," but "had Mr. Locker not decided to come to Manhattan and find an underprivileged individual, a minority individual, to do his dirty work, we would not be here today."
Minor, who noted that he had offered to plead guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter, also said Monday he believed race played a role in the case.
But state Supreme Court Justice Carol Berkman said race "has nothing to do with what's going on here."
"(Minor) was willing to participate in inflicting great pain on another human being for cash," she said before sentencing him to a prison term midway between the minimum and maximum for his conviction.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, April 05, 2011, 17:42:37 PM »
I think it's murder. Assisted suicide to me is helping, but not actually causing, the death of another person who wants to commit suicide. By actually stabbing him, he committed murder.

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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, April 05, 2011, 17:52:13 PM »
Either way, pretty funny and sad story at the same time.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, April 06, 2011, 10:58:50 AM »
This is assisted suicide but all assisted suicide is murder. The question is how to deal with the people assisting.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, April 06, 2011, 14:37:36 PM »
but all assisted suicide is murder

Care to elaborate? I'm for assisted suicide (along with medical marijuana and abortions, the Christians just love me). You can think of it like someone goes into a gun shop and buys a gun and kills themselves. Now, you have background checks but not for psychology. The person that sold the gun doesn't get arrested when someone kills themselves, they just provided a means, knowingly or unknowingly. There's a fantastic documentary on Kevorkian that was aired on HBO a while back. It's a person's choice. If you had a loved one that had a terrible quality of life would you rather see their brains sprayed across the wall, their limp body dangling from a staircase, throat or wrists cut or would you rather have them give legal consent to end their life in a peaceful sleep? This is America, you live your life how you want, why can't you choose how you die?
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #5 on: Monday, April 11, 2011, 15:13:33 PM »
If some one kills them selves but only with someones else help (They couldn't do it with out that someone) and that some one does help. That is at least manslaughter if not murder.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, April 11, 2011, 15:40:34 PM »
If some one kills them selves but only with someones else help (They couldn't do it with out that someone) and that some one does help. That is at least manslaughter if not murder.
To me, assisted suicide is something like giving them a gun knowing what they were going to do with it. you are not actually killing the person, but you helped them do it by giving them the weapon. This is a very tricky situation and I feel that a single charge for it would be very difficult to find.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #7 on: Monday, April 11, 2011, 16:23:35 PM »
I feel that a single charge for it would be very difficult to find.

Indeed.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 16:46:42 PM »
It's my personal belief that if a person does not care to be alive, helping them achieve their wishes should not be a crime.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 16:49:58 PM »
It's my personal belief that if a person does not care to be alive, helping them achieve their wishes should not be a crime.

Excellent. Maybe people should go to the make-a-wish foundation.
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Re: Assisted Suicide?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 15:28:19 PM »
Skrewy makes sense.
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