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This conversation will have branched through the discussion of skateboarding and football from the picture thread. It's a discussion of what is art?

[21:39] Kody: and no it is an expression of art
[21:39] Nate: ehhhhh
[21:39] Nate: i guess it depends on your definition of art
[21:39] Kody:
[21:39] Kody: tell me thats not the most creative thing you have ever seen a person do
[21:40] Nate: the beginning of the video is imo "art", the tricks are just tricks
[21:40] Nate: NOW...
[21:40] Nate: if you're inventing the tricks... that might be art
[21:40] Nate: er creativity
[21:41] Nate: but i dunno enough to say whether or not they're new
[21:41] Kody: then you could say, art is just a bunch of lines put together in an interesting way
[21:41] Nate: again, it depends on a definition of art
[21:41] Kody: and yes that man invented all the tricks he did in that video
[21:41] Nate: ok then thats creative
[21:41] Nate: i wouldnt call it art but it is creative
[21:42] Nate: now if he was just following someone else's tricks. that's just a difficult task he wants to overcome
[21:42] Nate: it wouldnt be creative nor art in that case
[21:43] Nate: i see art as expressing the soul (although i don't believe in that). performing tricks that someone else has done... it's like climing mt everest. it's a difficult task that rewards with self-confidence and the feeling of being proud
[21:43] Kody: hell they have "creative dance" which is considered art
[21:43] Nate: not art imo
[21:44] Kody: what if I choose to express my soul through the act of riding a skateboard? (which do)

Opinions? What is art to you?

but I've got nothing.

No comment on the original post?

I do not believe sports are art. I will just leave it at that.

Get involved bitch. You're sure passionate about the other thread. Disagree and prove your point while being respectful. That's what debating is all about.

mans, maybe art isn't the right word. Maybe creativity or something else?

Get involved bitch. You're sure passionate about the other thread. Disagree and prove your point while being respectful. That's what debating is all about.

mans, maybe art isn't the right word. Maybe creativity or something else?

I don't have a strong opinion about it.

Everything is art. Some things are just more artly. Yup, that's the word I'm gonna use.

Anywho, I don't see skateboarding as an expression of anything other than your teen angst.

–noun
1.
the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.

The term "Art" takes a new meaning every day that goes by. It no is longer anchored to its original definition, nor to its historical context.

What is "Art"? Although there is not one strict definition, one could say "Art" is the act of Expression and Creation and any variant, consequent or resultant that might derive from --therefrom, thereby, theresough, therewilled, thereof, thereintended--  such participative acts. However simple and effective this answer may seem, the basis from which the fundament is taken from are ironically dubious and pertinent. At this point in time, if we were to analyse the meaning of Expression and Creation (abstract concepts) being used to define Art (a broader abstract concept), we would forever remain in doubt. And we do. Humanity does.

In the 21th century, the world has learned to perceive Art as everything. It no longer has to be beautiful, appealing or pleasant. It no longer has to be real and touchable. It no longer revolutionises human thinking and life style. It no longer serves a purpose other than one's personal/entity goals. Back when Art was actively introduced in the world (late 30s, with a following boost at mid 40s; following the History of Art patent in Europe), painters were paid to portray entire families on a canvas, and a memoir was given birth to. Designers came up with designs for products, cars, and so on. Art had a commercial purpose and it was highly creative in that sense. Any particular self-development, artistically wise, would have never had such a big impact as one self's creations do today. This goes to say that Art, being purposeless, has become a tool incorrectly used by many. In what way? We all ways you can image. In all the twisted ways human regularly does things.


So what is "Art"? Expression and Creation. The honest and legit expression and creation.



On-topic: There is a lot of "Art" in Skateboarding, but to Skateboard in itself is far from having anything to do with Art. Skateboarding (the act of) is a sport, skateboarding (the concept/design/style/tricks/ideal) is a derivation of the multi-meaningless-self-attributed-meanings Art.

I partially agree with mans. I don't think words such as "Art" and "Artist" should be stricken from the English Language, although I do think they should have a big cut on their meaning, as well as how people use it and how frequently it is used to elude people onto thinking bigger of certain things that sometimes are just plain simple to grasp.

No, one is a skateboarding topic, and this one is supposedly about art. Someone probably split the topics.

What an amazing input this thread has had.