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« on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 11:10:35 AM »
hello admins.... I would very happy if you remove rpg from hospital..  a lot of players want that too... have sniper in hospi now don't have sence.... 2 of 3 rockets always go to roof.. 50 %  of kills make rpg.. damn

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #1 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 11:29:43 AM »
I don't see how 1 RPG with 3 shots can get 50% of the kills. The RPG is in the last fireteam so if you can select it, you should have at least 12 people online (unless you have slots open, which is a terrible idea IMHO) per team and that would mean that the RPG kills 6 people every round, hitting 2 with each RPG, and while possible, I highly doubt that's what's happening.

I understand you're upset and I've seen a few others being upset as well. However, it will not be taken out just because of a few players don't like it.

If it turns out that the majority don't like it, something might be done about it.

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #2 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:16:03 PM »
biggest problem I've seen with rpg's is high honor whore hogs, and retarded morons standing behind just to get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there was a reason the voting system was put in place or what i thought it to be
majority vote was won by adding 203's back in but that was never honored, so what's the use of having a voting system if your not going to honor the results????

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #3 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:23:19 PM »
well teddy bro try to play hospi 2-3 hours and you see 10 doferent players all day saying'' who the fuck put this on hospital..''.. And about ''some players'' not all players are on this forum.. and didnt know how reclame remove it...

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:34:23 PM »
i understand what you admins are bored of changing maps setting.. always when we want:D but we try something new and we now see rpg not very good on this map.. and i say enougt reasons.

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #5 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:40:24 PM »
Yes people complain about it a lot. Thats mostly because of early rpg spam. If rpg spawns could be moved to new places - a bit further away / more difficult place from where to rush - it would make huge difference ( for example: ambush side in the middle of south west fences, escort side small alley down there in south east corner).

If its removed, people will complain about roof buggers again, so the difference rpg is making now is you cant bugcamp that much anymore.

Aa25.ini in server has spam protection time settings for 203 and nades. If it would be possible to add for rpg it would solve that early spam issue as well.

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #6 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:45:59 PM »
okei. Ronski. you want rpg stay.. but where with sniper you can play? on ambush side? yeah I know for you in escort all cool.. snipers have a lot of sides to hide.. in ambush that all is a little diferent.. now with sniper on ambush you must wait when escort all rpg waist and when go to roof.. usaly snipers slots are open on ambush...

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 13:50:20 PM »
you play 90 %  of your time on escort.  I when play on escort for  me rpg is good tooo.. but when i play on ambush it all make so hard...

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 14:06:58 PM »
I play where my clanmates play. I prefer escort side, because there round lasts longer and you get more kills, on ambush side it ends when you kill the vip.

You are right, sniper position advantage has changed from ambush to escort, still the advantage in map in general is for Ambush because of RPG's imo. I know RPG has taken even eight kills with first spam shot from wwe to 1st entrance, if meanwhile half of Ambush team is rushing in from garage how much does VIP have chances to survive?

Edit: i hate that spam use of it, otherwise its totally same for me if its around or not.
« Last Edit: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 14:10:25 PM by ronski »

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 14:19:27 PM »
You are right, sniper position advantage has changed from ambush to escort, still the advantage in map in general is for Ambush because of RPG's imo.

How not true is this. Escort can decide to spam RPG at docks or at westwing every round, which makes a lot of damage either way. Then it can spam the roof, which makes it harder for ambush. Outside behind the cars ambush is easily killable by RPG on the heliroof boxes escort side and helipad is always covered by some zoomed in camper on heliroof too.

So the only way to play safe on ambush is going inside hospital or camp hard.

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 14:30:39 PM »
How not true is this. Escort can decide to spam RPG at docks or at westwing every round, which makes a lot of damage either way. Then it can spam the roof, which makes it harder for ambush. Outside behind the cars ambush is easily killable by RPG on the heliroof boxes escort side and helipad is always covered by some zoomed in camper on heliroof too.

So the only way to play safe on ambush is going inside hospital or camp hard.
Well it was my opinion, yours is different but Im not starting commenting that your opinion would be wrong because I think differently. You are right about that, but the objective-wise I think it's more for Ambush, because their objective is to kill VIP - or to prevent VIP getting to extraction point, so they can dodge first spam rockets because they don't need to be out that quickly. Escort team needs to rush in hospital in order to protect VIP if half of Ambush team is rushing in from garage. So basically all of Ambush team can wait for first Escort rocket and then make their move but Escort side needs to run and still fastest spots might get blown up by Ambush RPG, who is there at WWE earlier than Escort side RPG in Esciort Building windows.

You seem to miss my point completely. It's not about removing rpg, it's about making it as a separate map. Problem solved.

And the argument about roof bugging... Omg, ya, let's remove the roof because of that.
No I get your point, I would like to see two versions of Hospital as well, but having RPG or not is totally same to me. And argument about roof bugging was more of a reminder that people always complain, no matter what.

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #11 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 15:24:58 PM »
Well it was my opinion, yours is different but Im not starting commenting that your opinion would be wrong because I think differently. You are right about that, but the objective-wise I think it's more for Ambush, because their objective is to kill VIP - or to prevent VIP getting to extraction point, so they can dodge first spam rockets because they don't need to be out that quickly. Escort team needs to rush in hospital in order to protect VIP if half of Ambush team is rushing in from garage. So basically all of Ambush team can wait for first Escort rocket and then make their move but Escort side needs to run and still fastest spots might get blown up by Ambush RPG, who is there at WWE earlier than Escort side RPG in Esciort Building windows.
No I get your point, I would like to see two versions of Hospital as well, but having RPG or not is totally same to me. And argument about roof bugging was more of a reminder that people always complain, no matter what.

Well alright then :D

I believe RPG has big advantage but with or without RPG, easiest side will always be escort and that's proved by the fact that most fragwhores choose escort when they have a choice

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #12 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 15:48:39 PM »
Well alright then :D

I believe RPG has big advantage but with or without RPG, easiest side will always be escort and that's proved by the fact that most fragwhores choose escort when they have a choice
Agree ;p

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Re: sf hospital
« Reply #13 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 17:22:43 PM »
fragwhores choose escort when they have a choice


1000000000000000% right,
but u mean chance not choice  , yea me being a smart ass lol

Offline ronski

Re: sf hospital
« Reply #14 on: Thursday, February 18, 2016, 17:25:52 PM »
Well alright then :D

I believe RPG has big advantage but with or without RPG, easiest side will always be escort and that's proved by the fact that most fragwhores choose escort when they have a choice
This is true of course, it's easier side to stay alive.

 

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