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Offline ShockAndAwe.

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Server Monopoly Garbage
« on: Friday, October 04, 2013, 18:11:35 PM »
This is a serious topic, honestly it will never be fixed because people pay for their own server so yes they can do whatever they want.

However the last few days I've been playing I've seen a stupid amount of abuse. Someone on my team on the ATAS server had his gun repeatedly taken away, people got kicked left and right if you shot the admin and if your ping spiked above an American prime you got kicked or banned. Happened to me today. I live in Canada and I have top of the line internet. My ping was maybe 54 for who knows why and we all know it only affects me and not server performance. I get kicked and I get banned. For ping, a good ping just not minus 50. That is the only active hospital server. I love this game. But if admins are going to act like 10 year olds there really won't be anyone else. This not an appeal to get unbanned. This is a discussion about the survival of a small community.
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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #1 on: Friday, October 04, 2013, 19:09:19 PM »
You are right in that people who own their servers can do what they wish. However, if there's repeated abuse (especially towards the Assist service) then we can step in. Possibly temporarily ban someone or even blacklist a server. If you can demonstrate (with proof) abuse then we can do something.
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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #2 on: Friday, October 04, 2013, 19:47:49 PM »
Server gets a bad name. whit the consequens of a emty serve. little community, fast talk.
not good for assist. simple as that.

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #3 on: Friday, October 04, 2013, 20:30:42 PM »
Well apparently I'm not banned, just tried the server out again. Still though it would be nice if we could treat people on our servers with a little more respect. Yes you pay for your server but the people are what make it worth, well, anything.

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 03:24:26 AM »
Hmmm you pay for a server...... new one on me. Mine is right here and it was free all I pay for is the internet connection and power applied to it. Training Days Server..............running Spanky's map.

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 04:32:32 AM »
Hmmm you pay for a server...... new one on me. Mine is right here and it was free all I pay for is the internet connection and power applied to it. Training Days Server..............running Spanky's map.
Don't forget about buying the machine you are hosting the server from and also any time you have to spend setting it up and repairing it in the rare instance everything gets fubarred by some fool attacking it. There is a few costs we tend to over look when we do things for ourselves. I use to be bad about not figuring my time until a loan officer at my bank got on me for it when filling out paperwork for operating capital for my farming operation one year.
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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 06:43:34 AM »
Server gets a bad name. whit the consequens of a emty serve. little community, fast talk.
not good for assist. simple as that.

+1

This is a small community, spread the word, and most of people will notice it on their own, that some server admins abuse their powers. I think every clan got his kick-happy-admin. They think they rule the game, because their server is populated, and threaten to kick/ban if you don't do what they ask.

About ATAS, I don't understand why people keep playing on that server. There's a ridiculous delay at the start of every round, and the admins don't play fair ... Feel free to join another hospital server and people will certainly join.

By they way, Shock, this is you?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/265725/
« Last Edit: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 06:46:36 AM by Ganja »

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #7 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 09:16:38 AM »
Admins should send a warning message to ATAS clan website to warn them for their actions, this is part of system abusing that you guys (admins) are working on.

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #8 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 16:03:47 PM »


About ATAS, I don't understand why people keep playing on that server. There's a ridiculous delay at the start of every round, and the admins don't play fair ... Feel free to join another hospital server and people will certainly join.

By they way, Shock, this is you?
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/265725/

Yes it is me. To answer why people keep playing. I just logged in right now. Hospital is my map. Thats the only server with people in it sooo what choice do I have? There really isn't the population or chat capabilities to make a new one. I may as well join it and pray I don't get kicked and just deal with whatever happens. If I had a horrendous ping and was asked to leave I understand. However I had a good ping, had just owned 4 people in west wing in 30 seconds (obviously I'm not lagging). The admin was removing players left and right in 3's and 4's and if they came back they got banned like I did. The one guy I was referring to was 2nd floor escort and the ATAS vip needed to come out of lobby. They took away his gun and he jumped down and ran to lobby to get a gun weaponless and VIP killed him and extracted. Was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I've also had my gun taken away for a full 12 round cycle for no reason I had to drop my gun and alley camp pick it up a few min after each round started when they forgot about me.

I'm not the person who badmouths people at all so no I didn't provoke actions it seems every time I'm about to ask what I did and how I can fix it and I'm sitting at the screen after being booted. 

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #9 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 16:37:37 PM »
Server and assist admins seem not to have recognized that the game is not in the situation from a few years ago.

We don't have hundrets of full servers to choose from now. When a player comes to play, he basically doesn't have a choice, he just has to join whatever is active atm. So when a server admins ban someone, it's not like they just ban him from one server. The effect is much bigger: they ban him partially from the game. Example: hosp whore banned from atas and ht is practically like getting a global ban (ya, I know what I'm talking about).

Therefore server owners should be forced to be more responsible. Ban-trigger-happy server admins should have their servers blocked by assist. Because such behaviour is killing the game (actually its killing it more than a couple of cheaters, but that's another discussion...)

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #10 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 16:48:27 PM »
Server and assist admins seem not to have recognized that the game is not in the situation from a few years ago.

We don't have hundrets of full servers to choose from now. When a player comes to play, he basically doesn't have a choice, he just has to join whatever is active atm. So when a server admins ban someone, it's not like they just ban him from one server. The effect is much bigger: they ban him partially from the game. Example: hosp whore banned from atas and ht is practically like getting a global ban (ya, I know what I'm talking about).

Therefore server owners should be forced to be more responsible. Ban-trigger-happy server admins should have their servers blocked by assist. Because such behaviour is killing the game (actually its killing it more than a couple of cheaters, but that's another discussion...)

Sadly I have to agree with this.+1

Offline Ganja

Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #11 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 16:55:38 PM »
So when a server admins ban someone, it's not like they just ban him from one server. The effect is much bigger: they ban him partially from the game.

For some really dumb reason (srs) I got banned from IGC servers few times ago, and sadly the admins know this. Admin said: good luck, since IGC are 80% of all server played. They shouldn't have that power, it's ridiculous

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #12 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 17:21:20 PM »
For some really dumb reason (srs) I got banned from IGC servers few times ago, and sadly the admins know this. Admin said: good luck, since IGC are 80% of all server played. They shouldn't have that power, it's ridiculous

good for you I unbanned you  :up: :P


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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #13 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 17:24:48 PM »
Well, when some popular hosp server admins did this to me in my 'assist-uber-dictator' times, i went to play there with global-admin powers. You should see how they were crying: "you can't do that, this is scandal, we pay for this server, bla bla bla...". My answer was simple: you say you "just" use _your_ powers on _your_ server, I just do the same, on _mine_ (at the time) system. I don't think they ever understood that perfect analogy, they didn't grasp that they were effectively banning people from the game

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Re: Server Monopoly Garbage
« Reply #14 on: Saturday, October 05, 2013, 20:44:01 PM »
Pit, do you still have your hosp server? Maybe you can give some people here admin rights there, so if not you, atleast other oeople could play on a desent server.

 

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