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#Whocares.

simple but complicated for some!
it concerns the hospital, rpg, assist admin, returning 203 instead of rpg.

I want a full server hospital like it used to be.. in the past people enjoyed playing hospy all day and night, but now max three sets and change map,then the server is empty.why would 2 rpg destroy the map?the game with 203 gives an even game in the hospital, not that I have a score with rpg 30--3.
this will tell normal people everything!!

so please return 203 to us!!
thx bok

if the assist admins turn a deaf ear again... I'm asking the players to give me support for the hospital, because I don't like dictatorship!
let the assist admin put votes 203 or rpg! let the players decide..

So this is the reason why people stopped playing Hospital on Assist?
I have been wondering for a while why such a popular map is not played anymore.
I didn't realize that there was changes in weaponry and thought that this community just doesn't like it anymore.

I really miss playing Hospital like back in the old days. Is there something we can (or devs want to) do about this?
^{#ICareALittle Thanks}

This post got me curious as my impression was that Hospital was one of the more popular maps to this day. I ran some numbers and it would appear that SF Hospital is the second most popular map played across all tracked servers (which is pretty much all of them, anyway) only surpassed by Pipeline SF (which checks out).

Top 4 time played (As of 02/02/2024 since April 2023)
SF Pipeline: 2362 hours played
SF Hospital: 1901 hours played
Urban Assault: 1326 hours played
SF CSAR: 958 hours played

That's some interesting numbers!
In fact, Pipeline would probably have a few more hours if you considered the other variants of it (regular Pipeline, AA3 Pipeline, and mAAp Pipeline). Though I've got a feeling only the regular one gets any meaningful amount of hours.

From what I gather the change happened nearly a decade ago, my question would be even if the vast majority of remaining players were in favor of the return of 203s (remains to be seen) is there anyone left with the know how to make that change?.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious! So many seem to think these changes are trivial to make!

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before in other threads over the years, but there really isn't anyone here that deals with maps anymore. Hell, I don't even know if the software would run on modern Windows (7/8/10/11).

And even if we get over the map change aspect (someone might have the old file saved somewhere, after all), that still leaves distribution. I think Possessed still knows how to do that. But how often do you guys see him around? And I'm sure as time goes on, more and more of this knowhow will be lost.

So all in all, this is something that would take a lot of time and effort to change. And we simply do not have the bandwidth to tackle it!
In hindsight, we might have been better off keeping both versions of Hospital (e.g "Modern" and "Classic"). But that's not really helpful now when a lot of time has passed.

Let's not forget that this change was made because there was a push from the community to make a change. Maybe the community sentiment has changed on this - I don't know. But what I do know is that the scope and capability of the team running things has certainly changed.

And you're right tedi_medi-looking back it would have been better if we had left two versions of the hospital. (if I remember that's what Vanoke suggested)
Maybe try to contact Spanki? (I saw that he was at the shoot box a week or two ago).

Can I contact pit if it's not a problem?! , or better peace..
Seriously, thanks for your effort if anything can be resolved.
Bok

If there are any changes, please assist admins to notify us.

But the map itself isn't the problem. It's not so easy to change it, because there is a checksum over all maps. If one map has a wrong "MD5" value, it will be replaced immed. So Possessed could change that for sure, but i would say let it be. Maybe a try to change will result in a mess.

The changes to SF Hospital were made because the community requested it at the time. The thinking being that the map was already so ambush sided that removing 203 would even it out a bit more. No more camping roof with a 203 waiting for the vip to run out, you actually have to aim and shoot now.

if the assist admins turn a deaf ear again... I'm asking the players to give me support for the hospital, because I don't like dictatorship!
let the assist admin put votes 203 or rpg! let the players decide..

This is exactly what we did and the community voted to remove the 203.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before in other threads over the years, but there really isn't anyone here that deals with maps anymore. Hell, I don't even know if the software would run on modern Windows (7/8/10/11).

We could revert to the original 2.5 version of the map without needing the editor, but that would also remove the extra slots we added to the map (currently 32) back to I believe 26.
We also fixed a few glitches on the map, such as the ledge on west wing roof making prone players invisible to the enemy while still being able to shoot out. Reverting to the original map is not a good solution.