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Offline [SWISS]Merlin

can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 07:57:01 AM »
hi there

could please someone of the admins look at the auth server. i guess there is a problem.
not possible to connect to auth.aa25.org to see server list.

and with the messages at shoutbox i guess playing aa2 is not possible at the moment.

thanks

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 12:17:35 PM »
what am I gonna do tonight  :??
Damned have to think of something else for a change I guess.
A feedback would be nice.Hoping it will still work later today.
This "Authorisation down problem" happens a lot lately.

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 12:29:02 PM »
we do play aa4 - proving ground I guess.

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 13:08:31 PM »
I wish I could help... I saw this hours ago, but unfortunately I can't do anything about it.

It's kind of a shame how dependant of one person we are really.
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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 13:17:00 PM »
So what if he goes on holiday and this happens ? Then we are pretty much fucked  :D

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 13:51:26 PM »
Who did take the power off!!
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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 13:52:23 PM »
shit happend, but would be good to fix this situation later when he is back, right?
teddy, do you know where this auth server is running. on Nicks end?

and as i did say often: we should have a automatic backup system, which does work.
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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 15:55:52 PM »
shit happend, but would be good to fix this situation later when he is back, right?
teddy, do you know where this auth server is running. on Nicks end?

and as i did say often: we should have a automatic backup system, which does work.

Not on my end Merlin sadly, have recommend a few times to have a secondary system in place however it was made apparent to me that there is a lot of little dependencies installed etc that would make having a backup solution always up to date and ready to roll into production in case the primary auth goes offline difficult.
« Last Edit: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 16:55:17 PM by Nick »

Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 16:40:57 PM »
thanks Nick for the information. I would like to have that backup system. because in the last 4 weeks it happened a lot with that not available.

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 17:26:38 PM »
AND IT DID NOT WORK TO JOIN WITH THE BT ACCOUNT

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 17:33:04 PM »
ELiZ is the only one that can fix the issue (sometimes it's not even up to him but the hoster). Complaining about it won't do anything, nor does asking for a backup system that would be complex and a royal pain to setup, if even possible. It's a free game being kept alive on life support by a couple of people, it's not life & death, just be patient and wait.

I don't know if anyone else remembers but when Jonny took the game down, we were scrambling to get it set back up with backups of the auth server. It wasn't until Jonny came back a few days later to help ELiZ get it setup on a new host and then even a few days after that that everything was working ok. There's custom commandline Linux stuff and things cobbled together to make it work. While ELiZ has worked to make it more reliable, I'd bet that it's still not as near good as it could be, especially if written in a modern and lean language. The problem is, we simply don't have the knowledge and people to undertake a rewrite. It's hard to find reliable, knowledgeable and trustworthy people that will work for free.
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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 17:44:02 PM »
AND IT DID NOT WORK TO JOIN WITH THE BT ACCOUNT

That method was only meant for when BT is down.
And I've actually fixed that a few weeks back, so even when BT is down, you still login with the same account name from this point forward.

As Spanky mentioned adding a backup server for the auth server would require too much work.

However, what I will do is this:
I'll try to add a link to join a server from the login screen when auth is down.

I'll also try to add this for servers:
When the auth has been down for X minutes, it will start the server in "Free Play - unauthorized" mode.
It will go back to Authorized mode when auth has been up for the same X minutes.

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 17:57:35 PM »
ELiZ is the only one that can fix the issue (sometimes it's not even up to him but the hoster). Complaining about it won't do anything, nor does asking for a backup system that would be complex and a royal pain to setup, if even possible. It's a free game being kept alive on life support by a couple of people, it's not life & death, just be patient and wait.

I don't know if anyone else remembers but when Jonny took the game down, we were scrambling to get it set back up with backups of the auth server. It wasn't until Jonny came back a few days later to help ELiZ get it setup on a new host and then even a few days after that that everything was working ok. There's custom commandline Linux stuff and things cobbled together to make it work. While ELiZ has worked to make it more reliable, I'd bet that it's still not as near good as it could be, especially if written in a modern and lean language. The problem is, we simply don't have the knowledge and people to undertake a rewrite. It's hard to find reliable, knowledgeable and trustworthy people that will work for free.

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Offline [SWISS]Merlin

Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 18:42:20 PM »
thanks Spanky, ELiZ.
I do understand. it was just a pain in the ass to wait 14 hours until we could go back to play the game again :)
maybe you can put that knowledge to start the auth system to other admins ?
so no more need for ELiZ to cut his free time for starting up the system when goes down again - and it will go down again for sure.
thanks.

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Re: can not connect to auth.aa25.org - auth down
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, May 20, 2015, 21:35:21 PM »
maybe you can put that knowledge to start the auth system to other admins ?

The information has been there for other admins as well for a good while.

 

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