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Just for the religious people hanging around in this thread, how do you feel about the Pope?
A person, selected rather randomly (every christian ultimately could become one with luck and extreme dedication) is like, the holiest person on earth and the representative of God? That's one thing that has always bothered me, having enjoyed a catholic upbringing.

No-nonsense,

Most things you say is kind of like a horoscope.

I could just as well say exactly the same things about you and it would be exactly as true or untrue as you saying it about someone else.
The same thing you keep saying about others would apply just as well to you.

Most of your posts are saying "What you're saying is untrue. Fact" and if you're done with that, you say how nobody else knows anything. It's just ignorant BS.


I'm sorry for being disrespectful, but the truth sometimes just hurts.

Facts aren't synonymous of truth, it does depends of the perspective, a true fact for you should'nt be for others.

You'll never get the point, so leave it for those who can understand, you're just acting like fool.

I didn't see any questions from you. I don't recall we ever spoke on TS either. I haven't been on in ages and even when I was, it wasn't for very long.


I've lost interest in this discussion. It's much like talking with a brick wall, there's no progress. The fact is, you think what you think and I think what I think. The only issue I see is that you're wasting your time believing and worshiping something that doesn't exist. I accept scientific fact and then I don't think about it again until one of these fun discussions comes about. It's not like I spend every day praising Darwin or science or anything like that. When I read an article, I think "oh, that's cool" and go about my day. I'm not wasting any time accepting peer-reviewed research.

Now, if there is a god and I was in the scientific community contributing to research that disproves a god and I get up to the pearly gates, I wasted a good portion of my life didn't I? But, I'm indifferent. I'm not in that community or field. I don't dedicate my life to atheism or religion. I am an atheist but I hardly spend any time thinking about it. If there is a omnipotent, forgiving god and a hell, I don't believe I'd go to hell. I'm a good person - much more so than a large number of "american" "christians". If that god exists and looks at my life and still decides I should go to hell, well, I'll have a ton of friends because there are VAST amounts of people with morals lesser than mine who still believe in that god.

That said, I really wish there was a god. Death sucks.

Beyond that, I don't have any more to contribute to this discussion. Sorry.

Hello,

This post shows you have no faith, or at least do not understand it.

I have talked to some people for years, they never give up trying to show me the error of my ways. They are more than happy to argue any point I have, the same as I am happy to return the favor.

They understand where I am coming from, they also have resources as do I to keep discussing this for a long time. Argument and counter argument, even though they know I need proof, they expect me to find it one day.

If you had faith you would never give up.

Steve

fact.