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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #45 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 06:07:44 AM »
Hello,

At first I though you just didn't like that the company fired him for his views, but your first strawman sentence makes it seem like you're also against gay marriage as well.
"I have a different opinion than you" could be used to justify any bad viewpoints or behavior. Where is the line? I'd say it's at equal rights for all humans, but apparently you disagree, despite having no logical argument to back up your view. Why are you even here debating if you're not going to provide anything other than meaningless phrases such as "No two people will ever have exactly the same views on everything" What's the point?


As far as privacy goes, how is this even a privacy situation? When you show your support for a public movement, that's a public act. A private act would be telling a friend or family member. If it was actually private, nobody would know, unless a family member or friend leaked it.
Regardless, when you're a CEO, nothing you do is private. It's the same as if you're a sports star or a celebrity. It's to be expected. He knew what he was getting into, it's the life of a public figure. It might not be right, but that's life, and life never has been, and never will be fair.
The bottom line was his stance on this issue had a chance to have a negative effect on the company. This kind of thing happens A LOT, but is only getting attention now because it has to do with gay marriage.
Where too start, I am not against marriage, I am against the law being changed over time.

The first line of my post was sarcasm, where does the changing of the law end?

Will, eventually, people be able to marry an inanimate object?

The point is that no two people have the exact same views on everything, so why get rid of the CEO because one view does not match someone else.

It is not equal rights for all humans. This CEO who is a human lost his rights to have a personal opinion.

Of course this is a privacy issue. The CEO did this privately not in the companies name. He was doing what he thought was right.

Not even mentioning that weed is less harmfull than tabacco and alcohol as far as I know.
So you don't think a mind altering drug will effect driving skills then?

I also want to point out that is have used Firefox for a very long time, and still do. Not because I agree with their politics or views, but because I started out on Netscape before Internet Explorer.

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #46 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 07:18:27 AM »
He didn't lose his right for freedom of speech. He said what he said and it was his opinion. All good with that.
Now the problem arose when the decision makers in the company found that what this CEO said is bad for the company's reputation.

I don't know the exact details of all of this and how 'private' this conversation was, but I agree with someone who said that something that a public figure says is almost always public (usually unless spoken to a friend or family member). Therefore the public statement made the company look bad (at least in the eyes of the other people working there), which lead to him stepping back (or getting fired, whichever it was).

He was still allowed to express and have his own opinion. But being a public figure, he will still represent the company whether it's an official press conference of said company or something else. People who don't know him still recognize him as the CEO of that company before anything else.
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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #47 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 12:08:02 PM »
So you don't think a mind altering drug will effect driving skills then?

Oh it certainly does affect driving skills, just like alcohol does, in a different way at least. Driving under influence (also weed) is and should be punishable by law obviously. I'm completely surprised you bringing this up because I don't see myself implying the contrary anywhere in this topic.

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #48 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 12:12:20 PM »
the Gay kit thing is true, the content of the kit had stuff talking about homosexuality etc... Kids in that age DO NOT need to learn about such things IMO.

For me a family is a Man and a Woman, the point is that only a Man and a Woman can have their own kids.
I agree with what Steve said and look, now in Australia you can choose to be a: Men, Woman or Unknown/Neutral gender.

While our own ports are in shit, our Communist President spent US$ 900 millions (brazilian ppl money! pure illegal "investiment") in CUBA, for what? heres the answer: http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2014/03/why-odebrechts-port-was-chosen-for.html
http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2014/03/must-read-un-releases-concerning-report.html
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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #49 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 14:25:06 PM »
the Gay kit thing is true, the content of the kit had stuff talking about homosexuality etc... Kids in that age DO NOT need to learn about such things IMO.

For me a family is a Man and a Woman, the point is that only a Man and a Woman can have their own kids.
I agree with what Steve said and look, now in Australia you can choose to be a: Men, Woman or Unknown/Neutral gender.

While our own ports are in shit, our Communist President spent US$ 900 millions (brazilian ppl money! pure illegal "investiment") in CUBA, for what? heres the answer: http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2014/03/why-odebrechts-port-was-chosen-for.html
http://www.capitolhillcubans.com/2014/03/must-read-un-releases-concerning-report.html

That so called gay-kit is to give kids the idea that there's nothing bad in being a homosexual, it might prevent kids for growing up close minded and more tolerant towards the homosexuals. Maybe a gay-kit could've been of help in your youth.

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For me a family is a Man and a Woman, the point is that only a Man and a Woman can have their own kids.

So what do you call a couple (man+woman) who can't have babies because of whatever reason?

Australia's decision to add a 3rd option for gender is a great development in my eyes, there are many transgender/transsexuals or people uncertain of their gender. Such little changes can mean the world to those.
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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #50 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 17:19:02 PM »
Soon we will have half-lizard-human gender.
This couple can adopt a child, but the point isn't adoption.

Humanity is walking into the self-destruction path.

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #51 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 17:41:11 PM »
Humanity is walking into the self-destruction path.

People should learn to be more tolerent towards others. If you think gay marriage is self destruction you better start shooting all the gay people before they destroy the world

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #52 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 17:45:11 PM »
Possessed ur talking so much bs that I can only laugh about it. Really what a retarded way of thinking you have about this subject. Pfff

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #53 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 18:29:33 PM »
Possessed ur talking so much bs that I can only laugh about it. Really what a retarded way of thinking you have about this subject. Pfff
I think it's mainly a different culture, remember bollie us Dutchies are rather socially developed ;) .

But Possessed I didn't see you answering my question so I'll ask it again: Are you religious of any kind?

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #54 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 18:40:10 PM »
Are you religious of any kind?

Need some glasses? When looking at Possessed's profile all I can see is God, Jezus, Bible etc... :D
In my opinion he is ofcourse influenced by a religious culture (which only he can confirm)

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #55 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 18:46:02 PM »
Possessed, are you Christian? Let me know, because I am a Christian, and I don't share those views because, believe it or not, they are not the way of Jesus Christ. I can also prove this to you and whomever else adhering to the Christian faith. I know most Christians don't hold the views I have, but that's their problem (yes problem), because my view on things like this are all in the Bible. People just don't like to read it all and put it all into context; they only read and propagate the parts that make them feel like they, themselves, are holier than the next. But the fact is, NONE of us are "holy." We are people, and if you believe in Jesus, and if you believe in an all-powerful God, you'd know that God doesn't need US to do HIS job. It is not our job to judge; it is our job to love and help one another.

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #56 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 18:48:47 PM »
I think it's mainly a different culture, remember bollie us Dutchies are rather socially developed ;) .

But Possessed I didn't see you answering my question so I'll ask it again: Are you religious of any kind?

That's true. We don't think so narrow minded...   

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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #57 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:25:59 PM »
God gave us life in earth, why would we let the evil destroy it? do you think that homosexualism comes from God, abortion, drugs?
Everyone is free to do w/e they want, but also should be aware of its consequencies.
There are times to pray and times to take actions.
I'm not the only one who think like this, even atheists do, about such topics.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/1-corinthians/6.html
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #58 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:48:42 PM »
when people realize anything you say or do on the internet gets recorded , just giving some advice, this macho internet revolution bullshit, :down: only makes those kind of people a target , so when shit hits the fan they will catch you while your sleeping all cuddled upped with your wife or whoever. Wake up
ask this guy at the bundy ranch in Nevada, he was a right wing hero till them snipers and armed forces knocking at his door , the media is even putting the qustion mark next to waco texas. http://abcnews.go.com/Business/nevada-rancher-threatens-range-war-feds/story?id=23225314
everybody is a tough guy til them snipers show up LOL, and that's not even the worse of it, if you get deeper then its no different then crossing the mafia,the difference now they have drones , and other ways to get the target especially if the Gov feels that man is a threat, you have to understand , Timothy McVay started all this BS buy using farm products to blow up a fed building with children in there and all, so yes the Gov at that point felt threaten and its obvious they made a million more chess moves in real life then , some dude preaching or posting up hate on the ALL SEEING EYE internet. I mean who doesn't want peace, but the religious side of things i don't discuss much , especially people that think facts are wrong LOL,All these anti gov protest are traps designed by them and that main guy screaming freedom on the stage is the main guy setting you up for failure ,don't believe the hype , you won't lose your "soul" if you accept the fact we are in the future now, and old traditions and old way of thinking are obsolete , no disrespect i grew up in a church and all Christianity taught me was to be nice and trust people that are D-bags, and 5 thousand years of a false fairy tale's book can't help me focus on the truth.Especially when the 1st slave ship that landed on America then was called Jesus, There's good people and bad in all races or whatever beliefs , just make sure you choose the good people, discrimination on a person based on if he's gay or black or whatever ,and then using a God to justify the hate does not add up, I can see if there was a whole race of people killing everybody everywere where they conquer then yeah time to fight back but til then just enjoy life , and be glad you have a car, roof ,food and water, ask west Virginia what happen they water supply got kinda cut off, so any state that is a extreme right wing  (not saying all GOP are bad ) but the extreme ones , 1st things 1st food and water gets cut off then , all of a sudden your best friend or your neighbors become your worst enemy . Peace and Love
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Re: Stop Mozilla Firefox's Discrimination Against Conservatives
« Reply #59 on: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 20:52:12 PM »
God gave us life in earth, why would we let the evil destroy it? do you think that homosexualism comes from God, abortion, drugs?
Everyone is free to do w/e they want, but also should be aware of its consequencies.
There are times to pray and times to take actions.
I'm not the only one who think like this, even atheists do, about such topics.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/1-corinthians/6.html
I'm not tying to argue with you, as arguing with a religion person is like talking to a brick wall. Never care about real evidence or facts, just what an old book says.

Hello,
Where too start, I am not against marriage, I am against the law being changed over time.

What a joke. Are you against the abolishing slavery? What about civil rights? What about when they decided it wasn't OK to beat your wife? All were laws that were changed due to us evolving as a society.

Society and social norms change all the time. We are a much better society than we used to be, and that might continue. Not wanting progress is ridiculous.

 

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