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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #15 on: Thursday, March 10, 2016, 19:15:45 PM »
Ideally, you might want to get some sort of 128/256gb ssd for the OS partition and probably an hybrid ssd/mechanical HD for data, games, whatever else. As far as I know, ssd units are not particularly happy with a lot of small entity read/write operations (shortens the unit life). Spanky surely knows about em technical bits far better than me.
And I dont think Asus makes the kind of top quality and feature filled cases you're looking for. It has always been selling convenient products at a decent price (for nearly all of its lineup).

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #16 on: Friday, March 11, 2016, 13:47:32 PM »
Thanks Koden, I thought about something similar ... my own HDD setup is:
- SSD 240GB for OS
- SSD 120GB for SWAP and OS stuff
- 4x 500GB for peronal data

... so for this ...
- SSD 240GB for OS
- 2x 500GB for OS SWAP, OS stuff and peronal data

... should be enough. But this is HDD configuration and my question was about 'which one?' Samsung, Intel, Ocz ..? Yeah I know, I could check the Net, but I did this once and regret my decision later. So this time, I ask consumers (you guys) directly: IYO which SSD/HDD mark is the best.
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #17 on: Friday, March 11, 2016, 19:09:15 PM »
I never owned an ssd, so I'm not able to recommend one out of my experience...Samsung has always made reliable disks, perhaps there is some difference in performance rather than reliability between manufacturers, but that's all up to how fast you want your disks to be (comparing disks with the same control unit)...maybe if you look at the matter all around you might also want to consider support, and then I bet the biggest makers like Samsung or Intel would offer the best service.

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #18 on: Saturday, March 12, 2016, 01:37:32 AM »
Really wonder if I can get back windows xp pro, I know I can dl it from pirate bay or some shit like that, but biggest question would I be able to get current drivers for windows xp for my updated components
Why would you even want XP?

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #19 on: Saturday, March 12, 2016, 08:10:02 AM »
Thanks Koden, I thought about something similar ... my own HDD setup is:
- SSD 240GB for OS
- SSD 120GB for SWAP and OS stuff
- 4x 500GB for peronal data

... so for this ...
- SSD 240GB for OS
- 2x 500GB for OS SWAP, OS stuff and peronal data

... should be enough. But this is HDD configuration and my question was about 'which one?' Samsung, Intel, Ocz ..? Yeah I know, I could check the Net, but I did this once and regret my decision later. So this time, I ask consumers (you guys) directly: IYO which SSD/HDD mark is the best.
I have 2 Samsung Evo SSDs in my tabletop and a Kingston one in my laptop. Never had any issues with either. I've only had the PC for aroubd 9 months and laptop for a month, though.

I know Spanky was big on Samsung SSDs a few years ago and as far as I've heard they're solid products. Doesn't necessarily mean the rest of them aren't, though.
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #20 on: Saturday, March 12, 2016, 17:45:04 PM »
beats having all that un needed bullshit that runs in the background
Like what? Do you actually have any problems with what Windows runs? or are you just regurgitating something someone else said? Regardless, have fun with your dead and outdated OS. For someone that sinks a lot of money into PC components you sure are ready to hop on to an OS that won't use them to their full potential. Have fun being 3 DirectX versions behind.

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #21 on: Saturday, March 12, 2016, 18:55:30 PM »
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Have fun being 3 DirectX versions behind.
Humor me ... Imagine, that even now 90% of 3D software is based on DirectX 9c - why, because the license for the newest D3DX versions are too expensive ... and bugged.

@Teddy: thanks for input - I've checked today some different forums and it seams that Kinston is the winner - despite fact, that Intel is about to deploy quit new technology for SSD disk (greater speed and capacity for the same price).
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #22 on: Saturday, March 12, 2016, 23:26:54 PM »
Humor me ... Imagine, that even now 90% of 3D software is based on DirectX 9c - why, because the license for the newest D3DX versions are too expensive ... and bugged.
New games use new Direct X versions. The same reason you're spending a ton of money on that overkill PC is the same reason you should be using an OS that isn't completely outdated. Also, have you even looked at the games using DX11 and DX12? Hell, there are performance jumps like crazy for DX12, especially for AMD GPUs and DX12 is brand new. Buggy my ass, you just made that up like most of your arguments.
 Why even buy all that expensive hardware if you're not going to fully utilize it? DX9, come on now. What a joke.

You guys might as well go for a 32-bit OS as well while you're on your "intentionally gimp my PC" crusade.
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #23 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 15:09:27 PM »
.... you just made that up like most of your arguments.

Ouch, that hurt ..!
His posts have always the same context when something is beyond his comprehension - or simply: he don't understand something.

@Killa: Where is the problem?

I do not suspect that it was this:
.... Why even buy all that expensive hardware if you're not going to fully utilize it?
...because it's obvious, for these 10% - in two years it will be 40 or even 60.

As for this:
.... You guys might as well go for a 32-bit OS as well while you're on your "intentionally gimp my PC" crusade.
You see, Win10 right now is in beta stage (and it is envisaged that did not come off / remain in this stage forever) so is very unstable. Moreover, because for Microsoft it's a One Big Experiment it will be always buggy.
...But you're right, one day we all will have installed Win10 - buggy or not - because MS is forcing us to using it.
There is one big 'Conspiracy Theory' all over - e.g.
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I think Microsoft and Intel are deliberately sabotaging new PC builds.

Win 7 would not run correctly on the new build. I could not get updates. The OS was activated. The system was running at hyper speed.  Svchost process for Windows Update was over 2GB. Fans spinning, high memory usage and high CPU usage.

Installed Win 10 Pro and the system works fine.

Microsoft is doing everything it can to move users to Win 10.
So as you see I'm just trying to be prepared for this event ...
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #24 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 17:34:29 PM »
I was trying to keep away from posting as I like to be informed more instead of posting things I do not know about.
But I must agree on that point, windows has started a project to put everybody on w10, and it is quite annoying as it is. Windows keeps nagging me that w10 update is ready, you can't just close it from windows update easily.

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #25 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 17:40:14 PM »
I was trying to keep away from posting as I like to be informed more instead of posting things I do not know about.
But I must agree on that point, windows has started a project to put everybody on w10, and it is quite annoying as it is. Windows keeps nagging me that w10 update is ready, you can't just close it from windows update easily.

@ work i heard some1 saying that you can turn off the notifications by some trick. Still havent checked it out

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #26 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 17:52:01 PM »
I was trying to keep away from posting as I like to be informed more instead of posting things I do not know about.
But I must agree on that point, windows has started a project to put everybody on w10, and it is quite annoying as it is. Windows keeps nagging me that w10 update is ready, you can't just close it from windows update easily.

My PC actually automatically updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7 this weekend...
@ work i heard some1 saying that you can turn off the notifications by some trick. Still havent checked it out
One usually stops the notifcations by:
a) killing GWX.exe (GWX = Get Windows 10/x) - short term solution
b) uninstalling the Windows update that it came with and selecting never to reinstall that update

The latter does have a few issues, though. They have rolled out more than 1 different updates that do this and I suppose I must have missed at least one of them (see above).

And I also don't like the idea of automating everything. Sometimes it seems they expect every user to be on a computer for the first time and needs everything to be handled for them.

Don't get me wrong, though, I'll still be more happily on Windows 10 than XP, but I would have preferred to have stayed on 7 (or at least have a choice in the matter).
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #27 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 17:59:58 PM »
My PC actually automatically updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7 this weekend...One usually stops the notifcations by:
a) killing GWX.exe (GWX = Get Windows 10/x) - short term solution
b) uninstalling the Windows update that it came with and selecting never to reinstall that update

The latter does have a few issues, though. They have rolled out more than 1 different updates that do this and I suppose I must have missed at least one of them (see above).

And I also don't like the idea of automating everything. Sometimes it seems they expect every user to be on a computer for the first time and needs everything to be handled for them.

Don't get me wrong, though, I'll still be more happily on Windows 10 than XP, but I would have preferred to have stayed on 7 (or at least have a choice in the matter).

Ah great. Will try it out soon. The man reason I dont want win 10 is because of the pirated software. Km affraid that MS Office or Sony vegas wont work any more. Seldomly update the computer cuz of this.

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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #28 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 18:01:39 PM »
Ah great. Will try it out soon. The man reason I dont want win 10 is because of the pirated software. Km affraid that MS Office or Sony vegas wont work any more. Seldomly update the computer cuz of this.
Guess why I'm disappointed my PC updated... just waiting for the "notification" :D

As for the updates, you'd have to google the exact updates to target, don't know them by heart. Also, you need to first uninstall it, restart, then wait for it to pop up on Windows Updates and then choose to hide it permanently (or something like that).
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Re: Best PC SetUp for 2016
« Reply #29 on: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 19:42:39 PM »
@ work i heard some1 saying that you can turn off the notifications by some trick. Still havent checked it out

Quotes from some forum (MS btw.):

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I recently upgraded to Windows 10, and have found there is not option to stop automatic downloading of windows updates.

A quick Google search told me that there is basically no way to turn it off, which I cannot believe to be true, as it is surely an important feature to have.

My house unluckily has terrible copper wiring, and my speed is not always the best, and I also have to watch my quota (On/Off peak etc), so hopefully there is a way to turn it off.

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So far Microsoft say that only Enterprise users are able to delay updates, but only up to 6 months. Windows 10 Pro users are also able to delay updates, but only for a few weeks, and only delay non-security updates. Windows 10 Home users don't get the chance to delay updates.

If enough users complain to Microsoft, they might change their plans.

A (MS Stuff):
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Unfortunately, Windows updates cannot be turned off. However, you may select "notify to schedule restart" option which may help you.

A to above:
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No, not helpful. Restarting should always be the user's option. But if updates are downloaded or not MUST also be the user's option. I DO NOT want updates downloaded when I am gaming, streaming content, etc.

Turn this HORRIBLE thing off.

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There is a way to turn it off, although turning updates off is not recommended:
1.Open Start menu.
2.Search for Services.
3.Open Services, find Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS).
4.Right-click, select Properties, then change Startup Type to Disabled. Right click the service and select Stop.
5.Repeat for Windows Update service.

 When you decide you want updates, you should do the same steps, except that you want to change Startup Type back to Automatic.

It was very funny reading all these complains ... :D :D :D
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