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News / Re: Assist is back online!
« on: Saturday, September 14, 2013, 02:31:32 AM »
Taking screenies on any screen other than Assist and ArmyOps seems excessive as far as privacy goes.  I have nothing to hide, but I'm sure others will think the same.  Legally, I think you can only take screenshots of the software you are using.  Maybe somebody is using an aimbot that doesn't need an overlay, but that is what the process list is for.

Eliz, thanks for your hard work.  Your fix worked.  aa25.ini got overwritten, but I had a backup thankfully.
actually the mech takes screen shot of the screen, if you are alt tabbed it will probably show what u can see :)
also it takes SS on Join. some users used to have Cheat clients on their taskbar / desktop:)

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News / Re: Assist is back online!
« on: Saturday, September 14, 2013, 02:14:36 AM »
Thank you for proving to me that the TOS works. I'm sorry that you disagree with this specific part but it really is a necessary part of the anti-cheat system.
if you don't wan't screenies to be taken while you aren't playing, you have 2 options(if you choose to use assist ofc):
1 - Close 25Assist
2 - SitRep > Logout of 25Assist, so if you have a server running from it you can leave the server Up and nothing will be get from you.

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News / Re: Assist is back online!
« on: Saturday, September 14, 2013, 02:05:10 AM »
I don't know about ToS:
iv.takes "screen shots"  of the Licensee's  computer screen at any given time while assist is running without prior notice to the Licensee.

Everything I agree with. Most of the time I live assist open and also  I don't what people to know what is in my desktop or what I'm doing on my desktop. Sorry but to me this a little too invasive for me. If the other three things mention couldn't catch them, why would you think this will. Until then, I can't pull the trigger to agree the the ToS and play AA again. Well thanks for the good times.

Carlidan_{PoT} or FlashGreanade_{PoT}

Guess I will see you guys on aa4 or not.  :?
Log out and nothing will be taken :)

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General Chat / Re: LOL @ this
« on: Saturday, September 14, 2013, 01:51:04 AM »
I don't understand all of you, 90% of u who are postin here saying glad assist is coming back, are the same ones who on battletracker.com was spam posting how fucked up spanky, jonny, etc are... Lol hypocrits

Anyways have fun jus figured id let u all know how hard iv been laughing
I've only seen 1 or 2 not 90% :)

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News / Re: Welcome back to AAO25.com
« on: Friday, September 13, 2013, 06:37:05 AM »
TS coming back up too ?
probably not, it was Hosted for Free from an ex-admin, TG Pegesus :)
it had some downtimes etc but He doesn't need to keep it online as it was done for free.

Hi all.

What happened was a breach of trust (I hope - that is the right translation), but you don't like to discuss it, as I read in the 1st post...

Quite interesting to read. The Auth Server is the site Battletracker.com (=bt), isn't it? It's based on a wbb-board, so the passwords for sure are stored crypted (there's the possibility since version 2, if I remember right). Homey made you an API to check, if the submitted login data is correct and to send you some stats and the bt-number back.

But what about the delivery of my personal data to assist? That is not crypted. When I login in Assist with my bt-name and bt-password are send in "clear text" to assist-server. Nice to see only " ******** " in passwordfield, but the data finally send is plane text.
right when Jonny shut assist down, he was working on a better/ more secure way  to send/receive data on Assist. idk what will happen with it cuz it wasn't released.

I think outside of your "staff team", there are a lot of players who have coding abilitys. In my case, I offered my help not ony once or twice. I got rejected several times and than I finally lost the interest on trying it again.

While you "re-setup" this page, there was a short massage like: "Can anyone host the site?" I perhaps could do so but didn't have a way to contact you. I wrote a pn to Johnny on bt, because it was the only name and person I clearly could identify. Perhaps he forwarded it to the rest of the team...
When we don't are rly in need of someone we use to reject/forget cause of security etc, but once a year 1-2 ppl join Assist lol.
ATM I guess we already have a host. I'm not 100% sure :P

For the future I'd like to have more transparency about what is going on and less restrictions. In my eyes it's a stupid thing, that modded servers are not tracked, only one account per person is allowed and many more... For sure, if there is a server-mod running, which gives 1.000.000 points per kill or something like that, it shouldn'n be tracked. But there are a lot of people who like to play with sf-weapons on standard maps (which was / is allowed from the game by forceclassing), so why you don't let them play that way? Also "low gravity" aka. "high jump" is settable by admin, so let them have some fun with it.

Cheating / Hacking in my eyes is a big problem, but there are only a few things we could do against. Evenbalance stopped PB support and the PB-scripts could only handle known hacks. I play this game for a long time and in my eyes there are a lot of cheaters playing very often. I have no evidence, so I won't call anyone a cheater.
Let me give an example: a person is dying every round and has 1 kill and 10 deaths in 11 rounds. Next round he kills nearly every enemy with one or two bulles and has a 30 kills / 11 deaths 5 rounds later, his bullet holes across the map are fitting on a 1-Dollar-Coin, than he is not clean for me, especially if you could watch this a lot of times.

Don't ban those players globally if there is no evidence. Offer us the possibilty to ban players by bt-numer like PB-Guid before. Give us the possibilty to find 2nd accounts, so that he can't join my / our server anymore. If I don't trust him, I'll ban him. In the past "innocent" players tryed to contact the admin and excused or explained. Especially the german community is very small and we know each other. "guilty" players don't even try, they make a new account or play on other servers to push their frag and get a ******.

Regards
Graf
Since the last AC efforts(not the one that made it goes down lol) we rarely banned on thoughts, most ban were set with real proof and legally imo(read the above msg before you try to say otherwise).

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News / Re: Welcome back to AAO25.com
« on: Friday, September 13, 2013, 02:40:33 AM »
Only if it's the back door...

We're all excited AAO25 is back but let's try to keep this on topic guys :)
speaking of this, hope we get Assist back asap and then we can have the Custom meshes thing :D
We wan't to delivery something great to our players :)

Open Source, well, lots of pp have joined the project since it started but, there are core things that can't be public as the Auth system mech etc. but anyone capable can help;

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News / Re: Welcome back to AAO25.com
« on: Friday, September 13, 2013, 02:35:24 AM »
Ya Spanky's trying to break down my door right now!
That's what she said?

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News / Re: Welcome back to AAO25.com
« on: Friday, September 13, 2013, 02:29:14 AM »
if I worked for NSA I would be slaying my own country since NSA has been spying our Citizens, our President and one of the biggest oil producers in the world :D

btw as american citizens, you guys should not Mention: CIA, NSA, TERRORISM, BOMB, OSAMA, JIHAD :P
prepare to be tracked and interrogated rofl.

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Friday, September 13, 2013, 00:31:44 AM »
28/09/2013? It was from the future? lol.

Also, I wouldn't say everyone was aware of it. I sure as hell wasn't.
replace 09 with 08, thx  :makemyday:

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 11:06:50 AM »
Was this an admin collective thing?

Or was it a single person that somehow slipped it past everyone else?

I mean, was there a large development team behind assist and everyone knew about this, or only 1, or a few?

To what extent did it reach? Did it allow access on demand, or scan and list our whole computer? Could any other info be compromised ie banking, and so on?

If there is ANY hope in resurrecting this, these issues need to be cleared and addressed. NOT being smug, answers need to be given.
JonnyM is/was the unique developer of the 25Assist/AC tool at this time, he added that feature, we were aware of it, some used it others did not, some never touched the ac tool. that "backdoor" feature as you say, was put in place at 28/09/2013, prior to this we never had access to ppl files other than by logging.

he was the one who builded it, but we were aware and some used it aswell WITHOUT even bothering.

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 11:02:03 AM »
Cheat files where found. So you assume i used it. No proof at all that it was. Ban on speculation. Only cheat that i had running was the aao assist program that is actually a hack for the developers to get into any info they wanted on any users pc. I never wanted aao2.5 to die i simply just went to aa4.
that method has been around for years(banning in found cheat, regarding if the were or are in use), i'm sure you could not gave a clean file if requested, sure you can argue about how it went to our vision but you can't deny that you had subscription with UnrealBot and that you've used software that vilolate laws too.

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:58:47 AM »
Hope these forums dont get shut down. Are there other forums to post on about the community?

Feel free to pop by insurgentcamp.com and post more info, incase they shut this down too.
probably won't get down, at least not 4 ever. Jonny could not delete, otherwise he would have did >)

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:56:20 AM »
How the admins are behaving and handling this outrageous situation clearly points out how immature and childish they are.
Ofc you are very mature: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrEpicGoat/videos

I agree with you Dav, but I'm not the one who's gonna do it sry.

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:53:43 AM »
What are you, 13 years old?
no I'm 21, and I asked if u were Stupid, if you isn't Stupid theres no reason to be offended.
that's where I saw you calling yourself stupid.

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News / Re: Closing of Assist - Game Over
« on: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 10:50:51 AM »
For assist it's

I will continue on the quest of the source. All it took was one asshole to turn this into what it is. Instead of it properly being handled it has now been killed completely by ignorant idiots. You wanted to play you get to play AA$ that is no more AA2 or Assist.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwne-IEG9s[/youtube]

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