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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:32:05 AM »
OH OH OH I KNOW I KNOW!!!

Sex. There's nothing religious, spiritual or philosophical. We're here to breed and make more of us. That's what all animals do. We're pretty good at it too.

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Grapes touched on something in one of the last posts. I too am not a worker drone. It's really laughable that the American way is to loan yourself into debt then spend all day every week day working your ass off and then on the weekends try to do things but never accomplish anything because you're too tired from the week and still don't have any money.
Shocking.
I fully agree.
i like to see how others minds work and not prove them wrong or chastize them but rather learn from one another. as a human being we never stop learning, every deserves to have their voice heard.
i dont know how people can live such boring lives doing the same thing everyday, wonder why so many chemically imbalanced people there are cause they are experiencing the same thing that is dulling their minds. i survied on this planet by cultivating trees, i feel obligated to give back to it.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:26:38 AM »
back in hawaii when i lived there i used to go to this camp where they taught you about the native people from many thousands of years who would do all the work on the island in less than 3 hours a day in order for everyone to have enough food clothing and shelter for the day. for the rest of the day and for entertainment they'd surf or swim in the ocean. thats having a life. todays life is about keeping certain bloodlines in society wealthy and luxurious. got people paying thousands of dollars for shiny rocks called diamonds, beliving that they are 'precious stones.' a piece of paper that defines what kind of education you get and what kind of life you will live. everything you suppoosedly 'work' for is to keep them in power.someone dont want to listen or wants to talk send them to jail just like NDAA look that up. our goverment is hi-jacked by corrupt bankers who use us to support them. in europe many countries have GMO labeling, oh wait US with its high standars and NO GMO labels. NICE!

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:17:25 AM »
nope, weed is not a drug.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:16:00 AM »
That's a loophole that they're trying to close at the moment.

Also, it seems like you're saying that anything we don't "need"  to survive is bad. That is a stupid statement.
its just like the loophole the vatican uses to hide its child molesters for hundreds of years, the way they close these loopholes is money. the fact is people who have money think they can do whatever they want.
all of the stuff we dont need is not all bad but if we dont need it then it will only complicate our lives (as it has). computers/internet are not bad but have brought on more trouble to our society than anytime in the age of knowledge. United states capitalists wants everyone to be dependant on shit we dont need. we dont need college that cost 50 thousand a year. information is free go to the library.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:07:48 AM »
Wow, that is the most BS post I think I have ever read. You might thing you're "deep" and "open-minded" but really you're just spewing a bunch of unproven bullshit. What's the purpose of life? I'd like to know seeing as you seem to know everything.
its definately not to act so arrogant like your soo smart and so above all of us "lesser thans." you chose to be that slave i didnt. im happy with my life wouldnt change it for anything, anyone, or any amount of money. read chariots of the gods i mean fuck its common sense. dont be mad because you choose not to beleive the truth of some pretty obvious facts. you've been force fed american history books you forgot how to think for youself

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:01:52 AM »
You seem to be generalizing a lot of people though. That's the problem.
we are all part of the problem, including me. ive obviously eaten at mcdonalds and watched transformers. however i dont need them. many things make absoulutely no sense and are RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES, pot is one of the best widley used medicines that cures like a millions things yet its illegal since much more money is made off pharmaceuticals which kills tons of people and has people addicted to highs that are turning people into mindless idiots, having kiddie porn is legal in new york city. (having it not manufacturing it, yes thats fucking sick regarless yet its legal!)

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 00:53:31 AM »
What world do you live in where things that aren't necessary to survive aren't important? You seem unable to grasp the concept of an economy, of human wants and desires. Things like computers are made to fill the desired of humans. Everything comes back to what humans want, what they will work and pay for. It doesn't matter if we need these things to survive, people will pay for them. As long as there is demand, there will be people supplying it. It seems to me like you want a fantasy utopia that will never exist. Where everyone is the same and there is no demand for entertainment or material things. You're essentially a communist.
everything you base your ideas on is from the past 500 years on this earth. the earth has been here for billions of years and humans have been here for millions of years and your ideaology is based off what percentage of human evolution? all of the shit we have today has already been discovered and died off before us. we have only re-discovered a small amount of information that we used to have. too many people looking in front of themselves with their hands on the sides of their eyes so they can only see straight ahead and not to the sides. thats what most people like you do. wakeup, go to work, go to sleep, do it again. a slave who chooses to be blind to the truth that you are supposedly 'working' to survive, when you are ultimately working to waste your life on the things that dont matter. food, clothing, shelter. all free given to us from our planet, that your profession/job have raped the benefits of and commericalized on. i could go back to school to be an engineer or some other societal slave but i chose not to support whats killing our own society. theres no more balance in this world and people will start to slowly realize it as they already are.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 00:35:33 AM »
i know that my thoughts will never actually happen anytime soon and not everything i say is right or correct but atleast i got something to say, i just like to step back from the bigger picture and express my ideas, im not trying to offend anyone kinda just venting some frustration and babbling just saying what comes to mind, i dont mean any disrespect killaman, and i know i probably just seem like some hippie kid from california. which i am but im also someone who has worked hard for everything i have. nobody ever gave me a handout and i wouldnt take one. the profession you are in is one of great respect. being capable of becoming a doctor or engineer is great but its for those who are not capable that deserve the same luxuries. people dont have a choice where they are born, who they live with , and what country they live in. you just gotta live life. now days people dont live, they are caught up in the facebook and what chip mod is on their STI or how many gigabytes in a hardrive. when in reality that stuff is making all of us the same lazy slob ass americans. and who do we worship, the computer the tv the job that makes the computers and tvs.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 00:07:07 AM »
That ideology would work if everyone was the same, but that's not the case. Sorry to break it to you. Everyone does not deserve the same stuff, that's a dumb statement. A lazy slob who contributes nothing to society does not deserve the same amenities as a hard working person who does a lot of good for society. Your idea is very close to communism. But the one flaw is that people are not all the same and never will be.
we live in a society where they train us to do all this work for a bunch of stuff we dont need. computers, cars, cellular phones, stuff we dont need, yet we praise the people that make them and own them trying to give all our time and effort to have things we really dont need. United States is shit because too many people worship fake idols like you. i been surving on my own since 16. went to san jose state on a loan that i couldnt afford to pay which is why i dropped out. i would have finished if i had more money. im not saying education is a bad thing or having money is a bad thing but it is because people like you who thing because you are capable of doing certain things that you have the right to more power.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 23:33:19 PM »
why blue collars get paid less then white collar =/= why poverty is still an issue today
thankyou i said this

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 23:32:41 PM »
depends what sort of factory works being referenced here, the mindless assembly line type work that a highschool dropout could do or trade qualified workers where Australias best boilermaker/welder jobs are offering 500k minimum a year. killa put it simply and truthfully, its not the work you do but how many people around you can do the job, supply and demand a low supply of workers for a demanding job = high pay. if a boss can replace you within a day why wouldnt he say, "where paying you this much if you dont like it theres plenty of others who will" or in the case of a factory "this is how much you get an hour, if you dont like it we will import some workers from the phillipines who will work for less"
welders, eletricians, elevator mechanics are part of the middle class that is being fucked. they dony make enough for what they do. the people that make the money sit in a office which is what im saying is crap.someone who sits in a office will never work as hard as someone who carries elevator cables up 30 flights of stairs

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 23:29:21 PM »
too many greed ass people who have a million times what they need and live in a city with homeless people that have less than 100,000 people in the enitre city. all i know is if i had enough to give i'd give it without blinking. the fact is there is enough for everyone to have the same as everyone else.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 23:26:21 PM »
If I spend a ton of money and time studying to be an engineer, why the hell would I get paid the same as some filed worker who didn't spend nearly as much time and money learning to do their job? I would have ten times the amount of skills they have and I worked hard to learn my trade. Why on earth would anyone spend the time and money to get a complex job when they can just get a labor job that pays the same? it doesn't make sense. You get paid for how hard you are to replace, and that's how it should be.
no it shouldnt. each and every person deserves the same. thats the way it should be. you are a capable person and educated. some people are not, some people dont have all the same opportunity you have. some people, yet some kids gotta pay for their mommas rent in order to support their brothers and sisters. EVERYONE deserves the same house and the same cars as every other man. If thats the way it was people would not steal and people would not hate one another.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 22:49:56 PM »
The fact of the matter is you get paid based on how hard you are to replace. Almost anyone can do physical labor, but not everyone can be a computer programmer, you need to go to school for that.

As far as the topic goes, I'm sick of idiot spoiled Americans proclaiming their great county is shit just because it's not perfect. It's stupid beyond belief.

if a person is educated, why should they make more than someone that is not. what gives them the right to have a better life and have more opportuinites. u read alot of books now you get the most comfortable life (stupid) thats like saying if your handicapped or mentally retarded you dont deserve to have a nice life since you are incapable of being smart or educated (not all handicapped people are incapable of learning but the ones who are). since our country is so set on having the highest standards then make the right choice and even the playing field between blue collar and white collar jobs. it all has to do with our schools i think. schools recieve money for how well they do in testing. if you go to a school in wealthy city of the  country their test scores are high so they get alot of money. if you go to a school in a poor city their test scores will be low in which they recienve less money. now doesnt it seem that if a schools test scores/dropout rate is negative, wouldnt it be wiser to give more money to the schools that need more help? rather than giving more to the schools that are already exceeding in test scores and parent donations?

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General Chat / Re: AA - M16, AR & AK 3D Sights
« on: Sunday, June 03, 2012, 18:00:31 PM »
make a poll plz so everyone can vote.

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