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I want to say hi to Blue but I'm not going to make a thread for that.

Yea he's not worth it

Forget I mentioned viruses. Still, radiation alters DNA. If an outside force can do it, why can't evolution do it in favor of the animal?

It seems like the discussion is dying. I'd hoped more people would get involved =\

I know what evolution is. I stated the definition before I started talking about it. And you say that these changes are out of our control. What has control then? Is it an external force? Evolution is the process of gradual change. Meaning somehow we come up with things we need and some how we find the information of how to form it. DNA is what holds the key information in forming must things. How can a creature write new code for itself? I keep asking how something knows it needs to change, but I guess that's the wrong question. Instead I'll ask, how does it know how to change? Like I said, what defines a wing? This need to change, it has to come from something, whether it's a subconscious need to change or some external force. The fact still remains, you can't add something to yourself or your species over countless generation without a clear understanding of what you're actually adding.
I don't see how evolution would ever achieve anything more than a pile of dysfunctional matter.

I don't know. I'm not too proficient at coding DNA myself so I can't really answer that. It's probably similar to how radiation or viruses change animal's DNA but in a more organized manner. The problem is though that all we see are successful animals, we don't see the screwups because they died off.

True, I'm sure there are biased people. Usually people who are biased don't get much credit. I didn't read the source, but it either brought of points of why evolution might be wrong, or it was ignorant and foolish. Either way, I think it is unfair to say that all Christians' are biased. It's possible to believe something is wrong without being biased.

Yea there's unbiased sources but I'm not going to go to an Intel fanboy to learn how bad AMD is

True, I do believe God will keep us from destroying ourselves. I don't believe we're really changing our environment that much. I think there's a lot of scared people out there that think we are making a profound change. Sure we add carbon dioxide to the air, but don't trees and such need it? Doesn't more of it benefit them?

Spanky, I could cite several times where you have said it doesn't matter what happens, because you'll be dead. Why are you so concerned for the earth? I think the earth will take care of itself. meaning when this place because uninhabitable for life, it'll go back to the way it was before that meteor hit it and started infecting it with the decease that is life. But who knows what the earth thinks, It's a rock without feelings.

It's just plain lazy to think that. I don't give a crap what happens to the earth when I'm dead since I probably won't have kids. That doesn't mean that I want to live in a shit hole just because you think somebody else (God) will take care of it all. I didn't want to drag that topic into the conversation so I'll end it there.

I don't waste my Sunday. I could very well blow that time smoking. I enjoy the time I get with friends and to hang out with people. Sure I might sit for an hour listening. But think of it this way, I can better my listening skills.

You are such an annoying optimist

I know translation isn't a reason not to believe but you just said that things can be taken out of context.

I think science has been around a long time. With that said, they're conflicting each other.

You're still thinking of evolution as something that we or our bodies control and while our actions/needs can control it, it's not "oh I'll add a limb here". You're also thinking in extremes as evolution is just random happenings and it can only screw things up and create tumors. It's not, it's changes demanded by needs. Like I said about the baseball player, he's not randomly going to grow a larger leg. What he uses, grows. If that happens over generations then changes to benefit and improve that area of the body take place. That's evolution. It's not mental wishing on the part of the animal or random changes that the body tries out. Tumors aren't (pretty sure of this) genetic, they're a rapid change brought on by something in the environment. Chemicals and radiation do this, not evolution over dozens of generations.

I'm not saying that the brain was already started, I'm saying that it, at one time, was a means to do basic things like control heartbeat and since it was beneficial, could grow and allow more things to happen. Again, we don't mentally create the evolutionary changes. Our needs, over many generations, dictate them.

Why wouldn't a religious site be biased? If it conflicts with their ideas, why would they be FOR it? Of course they're against it and that's the perfect place to go if you're against it. Christianity may teach the importance of truth but who's truth? I've never said all religious people are closed-minded or ignorant.
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Ah, Killaman You beat me to it.

Skrewup, it's funny that all your links come from religious sites that would definitely be biased.

Why couldn't we evolve the capacity of thought? The computers we have can match (I can't do 12 things at once or draw 3D graphics that fast), but also can't match because they're built for different reasons and with obviously different parts.

Animals evolve at different rates. The reason we have the ability to think is that we have a larger cerebral cortex (pretty sure I brought this up before).

While I realize there's cooler climates in Australia, there's probably many climates that mimic Africa. It has to do with the amount of sunlight received by the skin.