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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:44:32 AM »
That's not how it works. That literally makes no sense. Your theory would make sense if it was only 1 corporation that controlled everything, butt that's not the case. If they wanted more money, they would push to keep bringing out better technology to get customers from their competitors. It's called competition and is the basis for capitalism.
theres like 10 coporations, rockefellers, rothchilds etc

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:43:26 AM »
I really don't have time to read this right now. I'll just say that standard of living was irrelevant when I said that the US is shit. What I mean is that we live in a country where every successful politician is corrupt, where self-interests are all that matter in politics. We live in a country where rights are being taken away and everyone is being deceived. We live in a country where most people belong to one of two political parties, both of which are run by the very same people so that the general public is led to believe that they are choosing one side or the other.

The Federal Reserve is fucking us. The Fed banks are "independent, privately owned, and locally controlled corporations. The board of the Federal Reserve has representatives from JP Morgan Chase, General Electric, and Lehman Brothers. Do you get it now? Big corporations that side with these corrupt politician puppets at the apparent top and (above them) the true leaders of our country end up being successful.

On top of that, the media is fucking us even more. It's run by six corporations. And these corporations also support this shadow government and are in return supported by the power of that government. It's funny to watch bickering between liberal media and conservative media while knowing that they're run by the same people!

THE US IS SHIT

9/11 WAS IN INSIDE JOB

THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS RUN BY ILLUMINATI

MODERN RAP PUSHES A  VIOLENT AGENDA

JAY-Z SOLD HIS SOUL... HE'S THE WORST OF THEM ALL

AND LASTLY... CHRIS BROWN DIDN'T FUCKING TOUCH RIHANNA. HE JUST DIDN'T WANNA GO ILLUMINATI RIGHT AWAY...
dont blame it on rap, look at oarn and slipknot etc they all got their hand it it

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:41:25 AM »
That's a pretty bold claim, one that you literally cannot prove. How has modern technology NOT made life easier? You must be joking.
radiation, cancer, pollution, look at our planet, its falling to pieces because of commercialing and capitalizing. why do you think 2/4 kids have asthma??? not from me fishing withouth the use of gas products or oil based products. from people like you who want to better themselves off the earths gifts that are free to everyone. once people started to 'make money' is when shit got all messed up.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:38:54 AM »
What's your point? I don't understand what you're trying to prove. You constantly change the point you're tying to make. It's rather confusing.
wtf do i know, im one person just sharing my opinion. im not trying to prove anyhting rather just help people expand their minds, others like yourself open your eyes before you wakeup one day realizing you wasted 30 years trying to learn things that do nothing for you.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:36:32 AM »
it must be easier sitting thru lectures because you wouldnt be here if your ancestors did not learn to fish and hunt.
if u were left on an island with only nencessary tools to live, no technologically advanced products you probably wouldnt survive. fishing is easier with your hands and so is hunting. take a rock and throw it at your prey. cmon mr. engineer its not that hard to figure out. your country wants you to rely on its way of making food and medical remedies in order to control the population. the length of life over the past 500 years has risen, over the past 50,000 years has significantly dropped.
capitalizing and commercializing is not making this world easier.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:34:09 AM »
Fishing isn't easy and neither is hunting. It's only "easy" now because the big bad evil corporations have given you the tools to make it easier.
it must be easier sitting thru lectures because you wouldnt be here if your ancestors did not learn to fish and hunt.
if u were left on an island with only nencessary tools to live, no technologically advanced products you probably wouldnt survive. fishing is easier with your hands and so is hunting. take a rock and throw it at your prey. cmon mr. engineer its not that hard to figure out. your country wants you to rely on its way of making food and medical remedies in order to control the population. the length of life over the past 500 years has risen, over the past 50,000 years has significantly dropped.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:26:00 AM »
You just contradicted your own post though. You can't go to a barter economy (trade goods for goods) because then people would actually need to know how to do useful things in order to survive. Philosophy is not one of those useful things. Nobody is going to trade you food for a boring lecture on how the mind in the only thing we can surely know exists. It won't happen. You need something useful, like carpentry skills or engineering skills to be able to trade for food.
fishing is easy, catching game is easy and you dont have to be an engineer or anyhting to figure it out. building a shelter out of natures materials doesnt take much smarts. whatever you are good at is something u can trade for something that someone else is good at. yet u trade your money which you can buy food with for a boring engineering lecture. just as many people trade their money for a boring philiosphy lecture now days.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:20:48 AM »
I really agree with this. Money is fake. It's accepted as real though. Small communities are awesome where you can barter goods for goods or services for goods or goods for services. I always try to solicit labor for goods.
i trade my plants for services and goods.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 02:08:02 AM »
Come one Spanky, more generalizations. A typical work day is 8 hours. There is time to do stuff, even on the weekdays. It's stupid to claim people go to work, eat, and then go to sleep, that's not true at all. I don't know anybody that does that. 

Also, debt isn't a bad thing, it's actually a great thing. It's only when debt gets out of hand that it becomes problematic. If you're using the money you borrow wisely and make it worth it, you will have no problems. Borrowing money to go to college is a great idea, as long as you're learning something useful. Borrowing money to get a philosophy degree is bad. Borrowing money to get an engineering degree is good. It all comes down to how you use the money.
some people understand engineering good like you, some people understand philosiphy good. none of them is more important than the other. money is just this idea that has also been spoon fed to us remeber its just a piece of paper. people used to trade goods in order to survive, thats what it needs to go back to. trade for what you need, not trade a usless object for what you need. trading a useful object for another useful object is much more satisfying,

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:59:59 AM »
Occupy is a complete joke. A bunch of idiots wanting free rides because their stupid Philosophy degree is useless. Occupy didn't even have a uniform goal, everyone said something different and equally stupid. Not to mention it had nothing to do with the electoral college, which is what was being discussed.
electoral bologne, all politicans should be shot. end of story. occupy was twisted by the media into a bunch of violent freeloaders, the occupiers i know in san franciso were nothing like that. btw check youtube for videos that show police undercover in the occupy protests starting the violent acts just so police can abuse them. yes police were hired to dress up like occupy protesters and told to start acts of violence to give police a reason to beat on them. some real CIA NSA mind fucking shit. but there is proof that its true.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:50:52 AM »
Yeah, they don't have to vote for the popular vote winner, BUT IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE LIFETIME OF THE UNITED STATES. What do you not get about that? If they voted for someone else, there would be public outrage and a demand for change, something they don't want to do.
there already is public outrage, occupy? oh wait the rich use their gustapo called the police to get rid the ones who are outraged and wont stand for capitalistic ideaology. just like vietnam, its all politics, no its called opium trade.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:44:29 AM »
The electoral votes go toward whoever wins the majority vote in the state. It's never happened any other way.
they are inclined to vote for who the popular vote winner is, but they do not have to. the way our politicians word they own regualtions/standards is amazing. even someone as educated as you thinks that your vote actually counts! WAKE UP!

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:42:16 AM »
american's are spoon fed everything so we are tricked into doing whatever it is the super rich want us to do (like cattle). its like this city near me that banned smoking ciggarrettes out in public, u cannot smoke in public or even in your car with the windows down or you get a ticket. but u can drive around with your gas guzzling polluting hummer that if u stick your mouth on the tailpipe and inhale will kill you within minutes. (no i dont smoke ciggarettes but think that law is just wow stupid) since a cars pollution is worse than smoking a ciggarrte.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:36:16 AM »
I do, but that's probably because I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist.
umm, your vote is for who is popular, and i dont think your an elected offical in which you have a hand in the electoral vote? which is why i dont vote because they will pick and choose presidents as they do laws.

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The Lounge / Re: The US is shit.
« on: Monday, June 04, 2012, 01:33:04 AM »
Ohhhhhh, You're a conspiracy nut. Gotcha.
your probably one of those poeple who think your vote counts who becomes president too...

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