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This is isn't a freaking church here. They can go confess there. Here, there should be no forgivness. It was discussed so many times, so just leave it.

I am just helping you to understand that you're a human being.

Again, a lot of those are accounts that are old (we should purge them) so you won't get anywhere near that many people on here. Look at the player charts, we have less than 1000 unique account logins a day (some people have multiple accounts). Being realistic, 66% would probably be somewhere around 500. But then you gotta remember that not everybody knows about this site and there are plenty of people that don't speak english and would have a hard time understanding what's going on here.

I do agree though that the amount of votes here is pathetic but what can we do short of adding voting to Assist (which we are talking about)? This site has been around way too long and spammed on way too many forums to still have people that don't know about it. That's how it is though. Think about all the games you play, do you go to the developer forums every day to keep up on what's going on? Most people don't.

So poll in assist would be not worthy? You can do polls in couple languages or as with many as you like in assist using someone to translate or just using google translator..., I don't understand how is it hard to implement voting on assist? I think they would see it, the people who log in, if the box would appear with the voting system they would be quickly forced to vote and give their opinion. I think this is the best solution of voting is through assist not the website. And it is not enough to say come for more updates www.aao25.com etc, they can't be bothered opening internet and writing that stuff down, registering and so on.

Exactly, some time ago I was proposed the same. In my deleted by admins post I was talking about empty accounts, but guess what..? There is many things, which need to be changed, but nobody care...

In which they see no point in doing it, as thinking it won't change anything and is a waste of time when I see this as a main purpose of struggling with the MAJORITY voting.

But you see we are only two and the rest just doesn't care...they see only one option to hunt and to finish the player that has cheated and the sad thing is that nobody is willing to give a second chance which proves to ''in what world we live in?'' ask yourself a question people. I would just offer for a fee of 20$ or more for a second chance, people would pay just to play the game, this way they would pay to assist rather to the cheat app. $20 is just an example, of course the price would be up for admins decision. You want donations? There you go, a good way to get them.

P.S Not here to defend any hackers but if you were in their shoes you would want a second chance.

I understand you and I don't want that to happen too, but let's face it another way.

The best thing what admins could do is insert the poll into the ''Assist''. You know, some people may have trouble registering onto forum, may have other problems which way they can't contact from the higher grounds to help them. Maybe they don't understand the importance of their voting.

What would happen if we ''forced'' them to vote?
1. They would make their own decision and opinion on voting.
2. They would decide on the future of the poll, of its importance to the next update and so on.
3. If the poll was in assist. they wouldn't need to register on forum, they can use a BT account as long as they are logged in.

People just don't know how important is their decision. Do you guys know what happens when they don't know about anything? They just throw complains about the next update, why its that and whats that all about. If they are not forced then you put stones on your heads with full of reports about the updates and so on. Look at the current voting about AA3 map mission types..., what happens when majority doesn't vote? again full of complains because another half didn't vote and didn't throw their opinion out. They play the game and the game should be played for them and with their thoughts. Its just my opinion, I don't say to force them register on the forum, just do the voting because they play the game and are they going to be happy with the next polls decision?

And another thing, why admins don't just do the same with forum users like in the game? Admins could ban and delete users that are registered and banned as well as have more than one account. People who have more accounts on this forum  must be deleted, keep only one and we see how many of the registered users left registered.

can we stay on the topic

The topic should be locked, it is already discussed and finished.

Well done for the winner and the 2nd, 3rd place winners:)

The only thing I can say is that the system to catch the hackers is too strict. To be honest I must support Dav3 for one thing, which is information. When you do poll you must insert the most clear context of information of what is poll about and what that all means within the title and explanation of Auto Hot Key (AHK).

I see three users here, who deserve a badge and who works hard for this game not with the coding but with the words. Dav3, Nobigdeal and MIKKAWE.

Why?

Simple. They are true users of this forum, each time they post they put suggestion for the whole community and don't post whore and make off topic jokes. Most users don't even think about others. Imagine you've been banned and how would you fell in the hackers place? Of course you would want a second chance, and of course you would say I'm sorry I won't do it again. Why are admins so strict against the hackers? Why they use so much shit towards them? What about other games such as AA2.8, AA3, AA4, do they use such a crap piece of security to spy on others computers?

For admins I would say start to think. Start to make hard decisions that would bring more people, this was the aim of the original devs and so do it, stop thinking about the security, it is way to strict. Why you wouldn't give a second chance? Are you not a human being? Is it so hard, hard to forgive, give a second chance? The punishment is too hard. It's just a video game and shows about your personality. It's true, this game will die it's obvious, like it's been said in 5 years and i believe it will be sooner so everyone should get their chance to play the game. Remove their accounts, remove all ''who hacked'' accounts so they can start again, fresh start with the TAG.

I voted for the TAG option. People who say they deserve a perm ban are stupid and don't think into the future. I'm talking to stop fucking around and stop hating hackers, even AA3 wasn't so strict about them, as they, we, tried to stop them. We just led the game on. Look how many are banned, unbanning them would bring even more players and would make more servers full.

Server Problem fix:

Too many servers. 105 servers and a small player base. Start to run your own assist servers. Or let clans know that assist at least doesn't tolerate this. Or make at least maximum of 25 servers allowed to be hosted. Something can be thinked for this fix.

For Assist Fix:

You are not humans. Without forgiving you are not. We all did mistakes have we not? Don't tell me you never tried or wanted to hack and don't tell me you haven't worked with hacks before or if you are working right now. I see that admins like to ignore, they don't think into the future and they don't want to make risky and hard decisions neverless it must be done. The TERMS OF AGREEMENT thing wasn't until most of the people got banned, no warning nothing to warn them..., when all got banned you now make that shit. Very disappointed. Maybe most of them didn't even go to forum and didn't see that strict punishment...

For ELIZ:

Disappointed that's all. Now you are following Johnny. You are following his steps to make the game secure at its finest but will it it work for long? the answer is no. Just watch out ELIZ, don't make the mistake Johnny did. Too much for this game and you are not trust able anymore. Stop contrasting your full hate on hackers. You now how they fell, you know that hacking is educational for good and bad. Had they seen the TERMS OF AGREEMENT until you made one? no I don't think so.

I don't support hackers but comon, they are not killing the game the community and the assist is. I mean it's people.

Start to think and start to forgive.