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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 14:03:25 PM »
I've never seen that financial side of 25Assist, others has taken care of that aspect, so I cant say if money is an issue or not. I don't expect to get payed to do what I do, but I've never been someone to say no thx to some cash....

We've talked internally in the past about getting some kind of Donators Perks, to get some more donations to the project.
For instance, being able to choose ingame looks(Face) to other players

Here is a mockup I did at the time
[youtube]O3cvdIUFcCY[/youtube]

I don't think this small feature would do. Maybe a full como design will. But Eliz, are you okay for other companies to earn money where you work for free on your own time? I have no idea if it's a problem but in older posts of Johnny I saw quite a lot. Saw older posts for asking to donate by sergio. I just fell it is not right not to earn money. AA versions had this but it was free feature Eliz, it might be against the people and really it isn't any kind of cool stuff for others to donate.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:46:26 PM »
Sorry, I was working and couldn't replay any faster.

On Topic:
Okay, lets forget this option of giving hackers a second chance and lets forget about the hackers paying to play the game again. Lets go into different direction of all this how to earn money for assist. If you don't accept ''Hackers paying'' conclusion then I see only one way to get money from people who is playing. To begin with I see only one option which is paying assist to run a server. No more companies as low ping servers, you buy them from assist and assist runs them. I don't think its fair when other companies use assist to gain money when assist itself could earn money rather helping other companies. It will take more space, more bandwidth but this is the only choice to earn money because the game is free and you won't earn any donational money as you all ask. I saw already a few sentences from admins on this forum, yet they pay for cheats but not assist. Well who would donate when you work on your own free time and for a free game nobody will ever pay, only a few people may once. If you don't agree with this option, I have then an empty head towards earning money, you don't agree stop then moaning because there aren't many options unless the game is payable to play, but with small community and small player base no one will be willing to pay.

MIKAWE, I don't attack you and never did. For this kind of forum you don't need high graduate English. I understand, you may use it in daily life but not on the gaming forum where community is so small. All I did was trying to help you and the rest, understand the consequences of others not understanding your writing and words you put. I agree on most of the replays from other users. It seems like you're trying too hard, your words are intelligent and smart which makes you smart. I am talking about others, I am not selfish and I think about others too. I saw this problem and chucked this out. I know you can do better, use simple words like I do. I know, this forum is a free language, you write how you want but for others to understand you, you need less inelegance words and sentences. Way too long sentences. There are quite a lot foreigners on this forum that has bad English, I was checking older posts and saw many saying i don't speak English good. Just saying, if you can please use simpler language, if you can't well, nobody then can only yourself.

To sum up:
All I do, is trying to help ''Assist''. I try to help them and others such as giving second chance for hackers and by earning money but I see no point anymore in arguing with this as it's a waste of time and all it finds is excuses and disadvantages against my posts. Apparently there are more ''disadvantages'' than ''advantages''. I only gave up on giving hackers a second chance but lets continue this free speech discussion about other ways of earning money. I just fell angered that ''ASSIST'' does nothing really to earn money. I think its a waste of time if you don't get anything, who ever would waste his life and time for a free game that has a small player base and a small community. Working on their free time is just sad. Yes, you make others happy and proud of you, but is this going to take you guys anywhere? However you update the game, it is going the same, it may attract a few faces but that's all. But i lose no hope for this project to continue on the right track, there are a few things that needs to be fixed before continuing something.

I like ''Assist'', I do like now users on this forum. I like assist team/staff on how they produce themselves and the game. All I ask is to think carefully, agree with majority and always have more options than one and the most important, work as a team and always pull your hand for a help.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 17:29:06 PM »
what makes you think these hackers would come back and play fairly? A lot of these dumbasses only played the game to hack and very few have expressed remorse about it.

Few expressed remorse, did you give them a second chance? I guess the answer is no. Why would they not play fairly? They have paid to play fairly, it really depends how much you put a price on the second chance for them. I don't think a lot of people played just to hack. I think its because they have bored of it or they saw how shit they are in the game and saw strong competition between players, not sure but a lot is too strong answer to be true. I am very curious who hasn't hacked any kind of game or wanted to hack it for fun or to gain advantage. I would like to use this word a lot here.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 15:32:12 PM »
I'm pretty sure everyone here understand the noble idea of giving this project some much needed cash, but IMHO having cheaters paying to play again is not something that would work.

Ok, lets forget about the TAG option and lets go for other option such as only staff knows who is banned players and who of them are playing. Nobody would know, no harm.

Ok, now I want you all to go to ''Half of shame'' and count all those banned accounts. Using no flash no recoil, multi hack, private hack and so on that has policy of permanent ban. Tell me, how this would not increase player base.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 15:19:27 PM »
Paying a "fee" to be allowed to continue to play the game after being caught cheating would be a nightmare to administer.


Would being caught a second time warrant a higher fee?
Would AutoHotkey be penalized at 50% and a "real" bot at a 100%?


The ONLY upside to a fee/Tag model would be that the few that has been banned would add to the playerbase. But having them in the game with a Tag, would almost certainly drive away at least the same amount of clean players.

If the question  is how do we gain more players, allowing cheaters second chances is a really poor one.

The only good cheater is a banned one....

I don't think so. I don't understand what would be a nightmare to administer. Do you need more staff? Is it hard to administrate who is banned or cheated? With Pay pal or safe cash it's easy. If you would like to do by Debit Card, there is a slight harder way. Most people don't trust online payments, likely paying to the games as it is not safe.

Would being caught a second time warrant a higher fee? Yes it would
Would AutoHotkey be penalized at 50% and a "real" bot at a 100%? Yes, i see no point in why not as long as they brake a rule of having advantage that has a penalty of permanent ban.

Then lets forget about the Tag, there are more options available. Etc they don't have a tag but you (staff) know the players. That sounds fair to me. With this option they wouldn't drive out clean players or any players.

Lets add all the banned accounts( not including multiple accounts) hmm, around 25 to 40 more players that are banned now. Interesting. It would add quite a slight of peace of players.


DARKSHOOTER@ Assist would not force you, YOU and people who is BUYING must agree with the rules, they are not forcing, you accept or decline as it is in ''Term of Conditions'' before playing the game. You must also agree with their rules before you throw your own rules.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 15:05:26 PM »
That would be completely right if you'd actually rent a server from Assist, which I don't. I rent a server from an independent hosting company which has it's own agreement about servers with the Assist people.

Hosting companies must get permission from Assist, am I right? If they do, Assit could easily order them these kind of rules. Why not? Assist could simply run their own servers. They can easily take down those companies that offer servers for you to play. Oh trust me, assist can do anything they want because it's their software.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 14:59:34 PM »
That is exactly the problem I have with this idea. Of course it would be a nice extra to get a little extra funding by letting cheaters 'pay for a second chance' but you can't guarantee they will get the aforementioned second chance on the servers they will play on. That would make their little 'investment' rather useless and to me that seems a bit sketchy on the ethical side.

I now it sounds very good. Make cheaters pay money to ''ASSIST'' rather than paying to cheat apps.

But you know, admins can sort this kind of stuff. Even though players buy servers, they have to agree with itself ''Assist'' rules. They abuse something, they abuse the system that is built. As I said it would not hurt anyone, but a try is always a hope to something successful. At this point giving them a second chance, earning money, improving player base as it was more servers with people, more maps played. We can't of course guarantee it will work 100%, but we can try. It won't be illegal.

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Server Support / Re: Server mods
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 14:44:34 PM »
Anyways in quick answer to sum everything up:

Mods will never be tracked unless something changes after couple years or more.
You can play mods, but your honor for Battle tracker won't be tracked as everyone else's.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 14:40:19 PM »
So they would pay just to be kicked by every server admin? That would be a disaster.

No. Rules are rules. Server rules should stay the same. Lets say normal player plays on the server, he never broke a rule and he is very good. He doesn't get kicked. Let's say a previous cheater plays the game and is being kicked for being good. No this is not right. These rule breakers cannot be kicked without evidence of them currently hacking or cheating. They should have the same rules as the normal player has. This can be made if admins did report to every clan about the current changes. A notification bar before playing would do. As a try it is suitable or if anyone thinks differently feel free to speak. This would not take much time and would not harm anyone. I want this project to earn some money and I want to increase the player base then we can talk into more developing of the game and so on as this goes through.

Well i think nobody can help him then;) Anyways, I think there are no complains because we all want to be smart:) I do understand him but others may not, but anyways all I wanted to say is above this short paragraph.

(''Google translator my best friend!''

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News / Re: Change in policy concerning AutoHotKey
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 09:57:30 AM »
AutoHotkey is a free, open-source macro-creation and automation software utility that allows users to automate repetitive tasks in Microsoft Windows. Any application user interface can be modified by AutoHotkey (for example, overriding the default Windows control key commands with their Emacs equivalents). It is driven by a custom scripting language that is aimed specifically at providing keyboard shortcuts or hotkeys.

Fast crouching, reloading when running, laying down and shooting is kinda of hotkey but it is not. It is like an instinct by pressing buttons quickly. You press for example X to lay down and you press fire with the mouse at the same time, it is called fast fingers when you press buttons too quickly. It is very good that this gives you warning, this makes it more fair as others don't know how to do it. 

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Server Support / Re: Server mods
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 09:52:14 AM »
Mods available on your server, not all of them as I think. If you run any kind of mod, your server is not tracked and players playing in your server won't receive their honor as it is advantage in points with easy kills.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 09:39:40 AM »
I agree with that, I meant it more in the way that noone will agree with the forum being a strict environment where all posts have to be completely on the subject the title is about. Some other  discussions in a topic might be valuable as well. The thing I do remove is pure spam which doesn't add any value whatsoever.

I think I should've clarified that as well.

Whatsoever, you do mistakes but you're going to learn from them. I am pretty sure we all do them. Anyways back on topic.

You talk about illegality of taking money from cheaters to let them play again, no it is not. The assist is already strict with rules, whatsoever doing that wouldn't strict them more. You would just add a feature that Cons both sides. Since the assist is running by you guys and since you have created your own rules and TOS and so on it would be legal. If you did implement ''Terms of Conditions'' with giving a second chance by taking money from them it would be legal, plus the payment could be through safe transaction like Paypal or safe cash. It would be legal because it's your own project and by others agreeing with it, it will just make it fair and ''legal''. Anyways there is a lot of options to make it legal.

I must agree, I think to others it will be a sad thing to let cheaters play, but you can always think of a TAG as we talked about before. But the good thing is, Cheaters who is banned and would want the second chance, they would need to pay, the Tag would be next to their name and it would be a new account with a fresh start, plus they would be on the watch list as a dangerous players with previous broken rules. I think the punishment is quite a big deal, it wouldn't sad people because they got what is deserved. It would make the project richer as I said before, this next step wouldn't be any kind of broken rule of law. As long as admins do their job fairly I would see no problem and people would just need to take it as a fair deal, it shouldn't make them angry. They would see just an increase of player base and more fulfilled servers with more maps played.

I see no point really in stricting this forum anymore but the spammed and off topics must be deleted and removed. I think the current moderators do mistakes as they not long ago got hired into the new team. Whatsoever they did mistakes and will do but with the time, they should be used to everything to make it perfect. I think they do a great job right now, by informing with the discussions they taking right now, not hiding anything and being fair. Whatsoever, there are quite a lot of foreigners and the language should be more simple for them. Sorry MIKAWE, but your language is quite institutional and strong which requires a lot of English understanding. I do understand myself, maybe sometimes don't but for others to make it better use more simple language so everyone understands. Bart is doing a great job, he tries hes best so as everyone if the team. I have no regrets of this assist team but I would like to hear more opinions from the main project developer ELIZ from my personal view. Don't make more stricter rules, just do the job you doing, and don't forget there is a warning button, no one should be mad on moderators, they do their job.

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Background Checks / Re: -Fire.[Turtle]
« on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 09:23:46 AM »
There were clan -Fire. I played them and some of them were strange and not surprised as they got banned.

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Background Checks / Re: -Fire.[Turtle]
« on: Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 11:51:01 AM »
Two or more of his past clan members not long ago have been banned by using hacks. Could say something.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: Monday, November 11, 2013, 18:33:30 PM »
Since admins complain about no donations for the project i thought it is a great idea to take them from hackers or cheaters OR rule breakers as they get a second chance and as they wouldn't pay for cheats but pay for the assist to play, they would also have fresh start. I mean if a fee is high and a person pays that fee, he is adorably going to be fair and not waste bucks to try and cheat since he paid money to play. It would be a suicide, like throwing money in the bin.

1-2 It fells good when the discussion is taken and it is on the update. We need to see if it will work or not, and of course the poll should be visible to everyone. Of course, no forcing but just to let them choose a faster and easier option on voting. I mean most of the users here don't play the game or plays sometimes. They should have easier access like assist poll.

3 What about if the forum names is connected to assist. I mean it could be the same BT name to forum name, connected, i think this way you would also know the needed information to deal with the current issues on how to track multiple users. Just an idea but of course I know it is hard in this situation.

4,5,6 I don't know how to express in greater level of constructive build up. There are good things about it and bad things. It seems that nobody really wants to go into discussion, I don't see much from admins on this. What I just offered was a donation money they could possibly earn. Since you guys do it for free and people can play it for free, you think people will donate? I don't see why there is a donation button when only admins pay from their own money to pay for domain and so on. You would give Cons for both sides.

1. You earn money. It would give more ideas of developing into a richer project.
2. Rule breakers have second chance, better player base and maybe I don't know a Tag lets say. Even tho people with the previous history tag playing in the server, server admins should obey the same rules as to the normal player unless server admin sees proof of him/her hacking or cheating.

And about swearing, we know we won't fix that. It's impossible and we shouldn't even speak about it, we all swear either if it was outside internet or inside internet.

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