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I'm kinda interested to know how people still believe in such things in the 21st century.

God created the world. Jesus respawned it his tomb (or at his cross? not sure about the story). There's a heaven and a hell.

I mean I respect people but deep in myself I can't stop thinking you must be pretty retarded/naive to believe in God with all the knowledge that's available nowadays. Sorry if I offended someone

No offense taken what knowledge would that be?

What your saying here is I know nothing about what the bible says. But I am qualified to discredit it?

So what are you quailfications to say they are retarded if they believe it?

Seems to me logical. That if I read it and believe it, fime.
But you dont read it and say I am a retard.

Dont you think the retard is the person who never read it but feels qualified to say its not true.
Any one reading this would easily pick out the retard.

Thats simple enough yes?

OK I copy pasted Spankys post from the other thread to here. For the sake of derailing.

^^ This is why my replies have been dwindling in this thread. We've had these discussions before and they get nowhere.

You might have. We never. We may have touched on this in very little terms. This is the first thread I started on this.
Really difficult bring pearls before swine. As you can see the pearls got trampled.

The only things I have to say are this;

- Provide proof god exists.

There are many proofs I gave you an infinite number that forcast Christ was coming and you struck it down as crap with no concideration what so ever. So you are no prepared to even look at it. Nothing more I can do there.

It's not about convincing others to believe,

In your opinion its not, from your understandin. Im my opinion it is all about telling others.
OK to opposing  opinions.
You think theres no God and it doesnt matter if your correct.
I think there is a God. If I am right there is a problem. Theres a heaven and hell. If you believ in Jesus you go to heaven. If you dont you go to hell. Thats a problem. So I want to tell others how easy it is to avoid going to hell.
Thats really simple. Its either your right or I am. At least in this disccussion anyway.

it's about ending religious conflict in the world. Wouldn't god/Jesus want you do help your fellow man and make the world a better place? If you say no and it's not your job to convince others or prove anything, that's a total cop-out like religion in whole.

Where would you get an idea thing like that from. Let me tell you the heart of God thats where. That is the heart of God. Peace. He sent His Son to destroy the woks of satan. So how does it work? Adam was created in Gods image as you quoted. Adam was told dont touch the tree of good and evil. satan tempts eve, lies to her she eats. Adam sees it . Eve doesnt die. Adam knows God says you will surly die, So adam was not decived but desired knowldege. Now hes hiding cause he knows he naked. Any way. So adam by disobaying God has ineffect gave dominion of the earth over to satan. satan is the ruler of the air. God said to dsatan in ther book of Job. All he has (Job that is) is in your hands. Meaning you are ruler of the earth. Jump forward. Jesus ambushes satan by dying on the cross. satan thinks hes killed the messiah and its over. Christ raises from the dead. sucker punch. Now he is ruler of the earth and has all power on the earth and in heaven. So Christ gives us this power to take dominion of the earth again. Many have missed it, the church only has salvation to offer. abd they also think it is the most importabt thing. Its not what Christ died for . He was wipped at the post for our healing right now. But we dont walk in it yest cause the church has missed it and does not understand it. He died for the remission of sin for us. He paid it every one is forgiven now. Its paid for now. Church says it but still fails to grap it in its entirity.
We are now free. God doesnt look at any man with disdain. He sent His Son to take the blame . So if He would send his Son to suffer for you, Theres  nothing he would nt give you. Nothing!!!
So why all the suffering why all the pain. Man has free will. God will not break His word ever on anything. We have free will. But we say why didnt God stop the war/hitler? God cant He never lies He never turns. If God interupted hitlers will then hes a hypocrite. He cant. The whole world suffers like child bearing pian waiting for the sons of God to mainfest. Who are the sons of God Believers. Full gospell believing believers. Who will take over were Christ left off. Healing the sick raising the dead casting out demons. Then the world will know that there is a God who loves themn to the point where He sent Christ To take the sin away from us and resore us to our original created value. Thank you Jesus.

It's all about relinquishing control on your life and blaming a higher power for your problems.

It is all about relinquishing control of your life. Bang on:) Christ say no greater deed can you do than lay down your life for another. Hes telling us lay down your life make your self last, make others first. make the lowest first.
In here right now people are calling God all sorts of things because the church has given a very bad impression of what God actully wants

- Provide a reasonable argument as to why we need religion/god. If you can't provide proof, at least provide a legitimate reason as to why people need it. Using it as a crutch in life isn't a legitimate reason.

I already told you Isaw people healed completly. The sick need healed and people in general need set free from the physical,mentel torments. This site is full of hurt people who hurt people. We all need set free from the shit we are sitting in every day of our lives. Cant you see the depth of mans depravity in the last 50 years?

Please show me where I tried to change someone's beliefs...

Oh dear Killaman You look at things so shallow.
Every time you open your mouth in here on the street or in your home or school or any where you go . You and all men are trying to make people agree with you. There for your trying to change what they belief to line up with what you want. Men try to persude others hes an ass hole and shes a what ever. You ever done that or not. Its exactly the same thing we all do it every day.

I clearly addressed both sides in my post hence the part where I said "same goes for those saying god doesn't exist". This is fairly simple concept to understand.

Totally and nothing to do with what I am saying.

Nobody cares. Nobody will ever care.

No sir fact is you dont care thats why you say it. But can you see how you with you infinate knowledge spoke for the whole word with that statement. You are awsome man we need to listen to your wisdom.
And the other fact is people do care many people care. Maybe you never met real love I dont know. I would say you havent. Or you would know people do care.

So why keep arguing just for the sake of arguing? It'll just get you nowhere and only creates hostility.

Did you see me arguing with anyone?  Did you in this thread see me being hostile in this thread? Did you see the hostility towards me in this thread? Even from you I got it and from teddy. I did not rise It does not natter to me one iota. So am I forcing anyone of anything in here?
The answers no. So why would you direct that question at me? Or the hostility? Or try and bring down my thread with your braod statement "no one cares" ?

Few questions there for ya.

I'll post just for the sake of not getting a rise from you.

You wont

You say evololution is a religon for some, then that would imply it's fact for others.

It is for them a fact. That doesnt make it a fact does it?

I also love how your main argument is that everyone else has nothing to offer.

Quite sure I said in here I am open to anything anyone has to offer? Have another look instaed of looking for fault.
From what you and the majority posted in both treads looks like I am right dont you think. You added nothing to the othe4r thread and looks like your doing the same here not to get a rise out of me

Well it's true, since you're only looking for confirmation to your own ideas and will not accept or even see any other views.

Hmmm. Can you confirm what in my head from your assumptions. From what I acttuly posted in this thread?
I dont need conformation from you or anyone on this or the other subject that you added nothing to any way.

I will say it again for the sake of clarity. I am open to learn from anyone who has more information than I have at present, I dont think I will get it here. Going on what I seen in here for as long as I have been here.

You boys take it all so personal. Dont let anyone  get head time for free with you. I know I dont.

Love it possed love it

It's either true or not? You're talking as if evolution was a religion or something. I mean evolution is real and proven, atleast that's what I've always learnt 100%. It's science and it has been observed. Not like God

So Ganja what of the 6 types I mentiond are true Theres only one that has been observed the rest are theory. Please supply some examples of the others that are true? And have been observed?
And evolution is a religeon for some.

Lord never read your post after a few lines. The god thread is over in the other thread. This is nothing to do with God adam or any one else.

Spanky I completly understand that I gave you more credit than you actully deserved, but I always do that with everyone. You seem like you have nothing to add here either. But time will tell. Really disapointed with you in the other thread. I just thought of all the people here you had more than any of them.

If anyone in here replys with garbage you wont get a rise from me.

Ok plouging through the childrens section who as spanky,killaman and teady siad are incapable of haveing an adult discussion. And it seem they are correct for at least some of them in here. I should have known. But hey I like to give people a chance because I dont know whats at your heart.
So moving on to the section were adults can join in.

Ganja there are not thousands of sorts of evoloution. And the subjest is not so large. Its either true or its not.

There are six types of evoloution.
1. Chemical
2.Cosmic
3, steller
4. macro
5. organic
6. Micro
The only one that we know for a fact that works and know for a fact because we can see it is MICRO.
The rest of them are theory. So what ever we do or do not believe we need to back it up with Facts.
The reason I dont want wiki is because people like to read 10 seconds with and paste a load of stuff they never read them selves.
So lets stick to what we understand and have read.
So really boils down to there is no monkey to man evidence, It has never been observed there for its theory.
For it to be science it has to be obseved.

science
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noun
noun: science

    the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
    "the world of science and technology"
    synonyms:   branch of knowledge, body of knowledge/information/facts, area of study, discipline, field
    "the science of criminology"
        a particular area of science.
        plural noun: sciences
        "veterinary science"
        a systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.
        "the science of criminology"
        archaic
        knowledge of any kind.
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Nice copy paste there.

Which is why I moved it to this section, no thanks are in order

Who the fuck cares? Nobody is going to change someone else's beliefs so why even try? This is a useless thread.

See this is how you dont learn lets not speak about anything. Lets throw out all the books. Lets stick our head up our ass like killaman, and we will all learn nothing together. Eh no thanks I like to learn and I also have the option of changing my mind and saying well I was wrong. I never new that. Thanks how I think I do change and adapt. But going on your advice. I hope your not a teacher.