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« on: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:04:55 PM »
You're grouping me in with the more ignorant Americans on DRAAT (they're awfully plentiful).
I agree that Hamas is bad but not every Palestinian is a part of it. To me much more important are the countless children killed, the many times the UN has had to interfere and issue a resolution targeting Israel, the upwards-of-20,000 homes destroyed by the Israelis, etc. The Palestinians were happy on their land and it was taken from them, I don't blame them for firing rockets into land that was theirs at one point during their lifetime. Palestinian-controlled land is shrinking and shrinking. I don't give a fuck about the Holocaust, Jews should not have been given their own country. I agree with Helen Thomas wholeheartedly when she said the Jews should "get the hell out of Palestine" and go home to Europe or America.
America really is the root of the problems though with the Israeli aid. Vietnam was in my opinion an unnecessary attempt to buffer Chinese or, to be more blunt, Communist expansion and the like. I do not support America's current war. I definitely do not support the massacre of Natives and feel that is probably the most shameful act ever carried out by America.
Really, the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is not a pretty one and it never will be so I'm not saying that the Israelis as a whole are bad people or anything like that (just like I'm not saying Hamas is a positive group). It comes down to what I believe:
-Americans should not be aiding Israel or any other country.
-The Palestinians have more right to be there than Israelis.
-I don't care if BP isn't American, it's foolish to go to war for oil and then say WADDA WE DO WADDA WE DO when millions of barrels of oil are being pumped into the Gulf of Mexico.
There's not many wars/conflicts that I support throughout history; the Russian Revolution, the American Revolution, World War II, the Gulf War (definitely not all practices done throughout the war, just the defense of Kuwait). I'm drawing a blank, I'm SURE there's more but I can't really think of any.
tl;dr
Israel and Palestine are both playing dirty, but Palestine has much more right to be doing so. War sucks and stuff. American foreign policy has been pretty fucked up at times throughout history, including now.