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lol yea whas nice yesterday and i think bart you would have more fun on wcse had a better nader :-))

I was already telling my team to nade the window in the start

Well done guys, I can say I really loved playing MPSE and WCSE. Too bad I had to go early.

Endy, fingerpointing etc. will not add any value in a discussion. If you talk about me, yes I regularly say this, because I still beleive with the experience I got from many maps, fps games and beta tests I've done, that the 203 as it is used on this map does not add the element of fun to the game for for example newer players.

HOWEVER I was NOT the one who decided that 203s had to be removed, but when the discussion was there, I was in favour of exactly this solution, because it is a middle way and then we can see what the community in general wants..

I think jammax is right about 1 thing: the fact that newer players do not get the chance to take the sf, get fed up with worse guns and get blown up instantly in the start.

The way it used to be, with spam and such, the weapon 18C was too powerful compared with other weapons. Now there is a week test to see how it is without the m203. if you don't like it, then so be it, there will be a public vote about it. If you beleive everybody agrees that the 203 should stay, then the vote will show this.

How about, instead of flaming, pointing fingers, and telling who should or should not have an opinion, we will summarize the good and the bad about 203s, so we can actually make a meaningful discussion. These kind if fingerpointings will not get you anywhere.

Good:
- More ways to kill people hiding at a certain place, like west wing roof.
- One of the ways to stop fast rushers
- Adds an extra element to the battlefield, you can't just hide and feel safe.

Bad
- Lots of spam, blindfire of 203s in an hospital area is against the ROE in general, and I do not see the added value of blindfire and spams, in general a lot of veteran FPS players dislike the use of 203s for this.
- "Cheap kills", used a lot of times just for a free kill, people walk in the open with 203 out (that's very tactical?), just to click the lmb and get a free kill.

The problem I mainly see in the map, is that a lot of people only use the 203 for either spam, or cheap kills. A lot of times people just walk around with 203 open, waiting for a free kill to show up.

If people got anything to add about good or bad things, please do so.

And don't forget as we said, there will be a vote afterwards, if you beleive that the majority agrees that 203s are good for this map, then there is nothing to worry about.

There are a lot of people downloading America's Army, and playing it for the first time, according to our statistics. However they do not retain. So we are going to look if this, amongst other things we are going to do in the near future, will help more new players stay so we can let our user base grow.

Furthermore, this is a test week, you can complain now about it before trying it, but I would prefer people to test it first, to see how it works out. This will give a more founded opinion where we can base the votes on. This is why after a week we will start a poll about this.

As far as I've seen now, there are also a lot of players who like this, and there are some people against, after a week of testing we can see what the general consensus will be and what is going to be done with it.

So what you actually mean is to just let assist show the 285 servers as a side project, and not serve as auth, but just as a way to start the game and find the servers with co-op version on it?

No problem at all.

What specs will the system have? Just out of curiosity, as I like to build my own pc usually

Don't worry, I don't have a hurt wrist with it, it will just make sure it will never happen Everything to make it more comfortable.

I would recommend something like logitech G5 mouse, or Razer deathadder/copperhead, or sensei. There are a lot good mice around.

oh oh, it looks like I have to set up a ftp server

Or let him use one of the servers, if they have ftp, I always used server ftps to quickly send some files