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Server admins have enough power, find another server to play or get ppl to play with you wherever you want or feel good to be in. a Server is like a House, and it has its owner, you only should do what the owner allow you to do, other wise he will kick your ass out of his house (heh, see my avatar ), its a deal with ppl, not with Assist it self.

You just proven that you don't understand the issue that is discussed here.

It's like saying: you can't do anything about anyone who has power, you just have to agree with him kicking you ass, whether it's just or not.

Hackers like you destroy the game pit, don't point at me if its you to blaim.

Of course I'm not going to argue that hacking is something good for a game. I will just note, that in case of AA2, hackers were never the major issue. There are other things that are a much bigger threat to the survival of this game.

Also funny that you banned me with no proof for a flashhack; remember? You had the power,  and you abused them to the max! So funny when you talk about admin abuse...

I had a good reason to ban you, the "flash-immunity" of your was observed by many people at that time.

Regarding the "no proof" thing. One of the people that I banned using this way was uber-hacker Hertz, so I consider this as success of this approach.

And about ur serious note, i do the same as you, only i know how to do it and kill without the use of any programs.
And you was for sure really frustrated all this time of that i and the rest who killed you, otherwise you didnt do what you did, so you can stop the mumbling about that.
Facts are there, ur just a bad loser.

I'm really not into your "im pro, you suck" childish argument, so I won't even reply to that. Will mention only that such attitude is one of the major problems in this game.

Therefore : Time has come for Assist to retake control of the whole fucking project
as if the army had just launched version 1.0 of the game.

Your comments are quite good, although I think such drastic measures are not necessary. All it takes is just assist starts to be interested in server admins behaviour _at all_.

And I don't think any server admin would donate to assist instead of renting his server. They don't rent just do increase the servers count. They do it to have the power and control over something.

Uber-centralization is never a good thing. Control hierarchy should have a form of some tree based on trust relationship.

Just look at how linux kernel development works. You have dictator, then generals, then lieutenants, etc. It all works almost perfectly, concerning project of that size.

To sum up: servers don't have to be centralized. All we need is some more control over how their admins behave. Simply write another EULA for server owners. EULA that would say that server admin is not god, but has to adhere to overall assist rules how servers shall be run.

So at #1, I don't see any reason for you to disagree on your ban in that case.

I never disagreed. Can you try to read more carefully next time?

Like Pit said, server admins have too much power. It is a fact.

Glad to see someone actually thinking and judging arguments by their merit, and not by the authors nick.

This has already been tried over and over again, for example so much energy has been put
by some into mAAp. Today it's barely been played.

Correct. You could also mention AA3 maps in the same sentence.

I would say dusty river

No, no, don't laugh, this wasn't a joke. Listen carefully to the lyrics: she sings _exacly_ those words: "Is it the river or the dusk".

Can't see her shoes :O

Itz Nike ofc.

I would like to play Dusk rather then river again

Is this the River Or The Dusk?

What else is there to say? I don't care who you're hacking against, hacking in the first place is wrong, especially since your idea of "players that deserve it" is iffy at best

I never said hacking is "right". I never said it is some kind solution. I never said it should be allowed. I just explained the background and I simply oppose to your idea of claiming that I'm some kind of a monster that eats AAO babies.

A) How do you know they are cheating? You banned Bollie as well for example, while he is obviously not cheating

It's funny how you try to protect your "pro" friend. One day assist gets a much better AC than nowadays, and suddenly many of such respected "pros" will vanish. But it's nice to see that at least you can express yourself in an elegant way. But I'm not fooled by this. Not of all the hackers are a script kiddies.

Pit stop talking bs.
You started hacking cause everyone ingame was owning ur ass. That is mostly cause ur gameplay sucks... ur just a noob with no learningskills.
Its funny how you wanna talk ur hacking good hahahaha well you are still the same joke like always, nothing has changed in all these years.

So far this was a discussion at an acceptable level. So please spare me your mumbling.

On a serious note about my gaming: for many years I prefer to play "kamikaze" style. I simply love to get a pistol or scopeless AK, and just _rush_ to the underpass. 99% of the time I get killed within first 15 seconds of the round. But what counts is this 1% of cases, when I manage to run to the enemy base and kill many unexpecting oponents. It's the adrenaline that I get from movement, aiming and action.
Dying in the game doesn't annoy me a smallest bit. But glitchers and frag-hoes like you (the biggest single reason this game is dying) won't probably understand that approach to game.

Nope, we haven't done anything, and most likely won't. For one, we would need a lot of proof of abuse, something nobody has ever posted or given us. Second of all, I flat out disagree that a server owned leaving would be fine. What if it's a clan server and we have an entire clan leave the game? We don't need to lose any more players.

I'm glad you admitted you are doing _nothing_ about this serious problem.

If you bothered to pay attention to what's happening on shoutbox, you'd know that 95% of those things are people who get banned by the game/Assist for unauthorized logins or other such stuff. It just happens sometimes. Very seldom have I seen a genuine report of admin abuse on the shoutbox. People just don't know the game has bugs where it says you're banned, when in reality you were kicked and  can join back up in 5 minutes.

Either you are blind, or you just playing politics now. Server admins abuse is an obvious problem for years, and you don't have to read forum or shoutbox to recognize that. Just play the fucking game for a bit (without having the AAO25.com tag on you, ofc.).

Oh pit. I feel like your huge history of hacking and trolling is a very good reason for a ban. You've been nothing but a troll and hacker ever since you left.
Fun fact of the day, you're the only person I have ever banned from AAO25.com. So your statement means absolutely nothing, but then again, as a troll, I doubt you meant to make sense anyways.

As for "huge history": I'm glad you used the phrase "since you left", which acknowledges I had some history before that point.

As for hacking: all of the targets were/are: a) cheaters, b) exploiters, c) abusing server owners (kick/ban-trigger happy, ghosting clans etc.), d) self-proclaimed pros (with uber-sound locating players from other side of the map), etc. Never went after ordinary players (it's quite boring, to be honest).

As for trolling: it's hard not to troll, after you're getting banned for whatever you write (reasonable or not).

You want a reasonable discussion? Let's start with a simple fact: game server owners have too much power that they use to abuse players. When do you realize, that this game has just a handful of really active servers? In such situation, getting a ban on a single server is almost like getting a global ban (especially for 1-map players). I've seen you paying much attention to e.g. teamkillers, which are a minor problem for this game. But I've _never_ seen you paying attention to the admin abuse problem.