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I wasn't going to post in this thread any more as people are being asinine, but I have to address this here. I can go and play a game of touch football with friends if I wanted to. There is no way I can go and play cheap trick songs, or sing heart songs. That musical talent isn't some thing just any one can do. And I say I enjoy concert. Singular, I have been to ONE concert in my life and yes I did enjoy it.

And you can't go and play Professional football. I can sing and play guitar, but I am not good at it. Just like you can go play football, but you are not good at it. I enjoy watching the best of the best play football just like you enjoy watching the best of the best play music. you're talking about talent like football doesn't require any. It does. Both scenarios are literally the same thing.

Also, who the hell plays touch football?

I say fuck what the majority wants. They are a culmination of too much stupidity that targeting them is not going to leave you with a project you can be proud of.

Don't forget there's a lot of games out there not targeted to every mother fucker. These games really gain a very strong following from the people who play it, and more often than not, if you try it and really attempt to consider what's going on you too can see why there's a strong following to it.

This is true. But you have to remember, developers are in it to make money. If their game will only sell to a few people, it needs an extremely small budget, which in-turn, means a mediocre game.

remember ww1 wasnt all trench warfare, like minded people would flock to a 'realistic' shooter that requires skill to play

There is not a big enough audience for the game to result in a big budget. The game would have to be extremely cheap to make. Not to mention that a lot of people won't buy the game because there are no submachine guns. Not many people would want to just use single shot rifles with the occasional machine gun emplacement. I mean, I think the game could be fun, but judging by what the majority of gamers are buying now, I can't see it ever being successful.

If you cannot make an informed, intelligent rebut the best thing would be to do nothing. Yet you chose to insult me instead. Again I'm not saying being closed minded is a bad thing. Billions of people are.

You had nothing to back up me being closed minded, nor did you even explain why you thought so. How can I rebut an argument that is not there?

Just because lots of people do some thing doesn't make it right. That's my point. And I can see you are too close minded to understand my points so I'm done with this thread. And that's not an insult, billions of people are close minded.

I'm close minded when you can't even accept that people enjoy watching sports? I never said you needed to like sports, I only stated the reasons why people like it. How the hell is that being close minded? You're a complete idiot, plain and simple.

I was in the multiplayer beta at various stages including closed beta, from closed beta 1 to 2 it barely changed. In this stage of the game it sucked balls. It was horrible. When it went in to open beta it still was pretty shit but I had some fun. I would definately not pay money to play it.

This. The multiplayer is so bland and uncreative. They just took a bunch of different stuff from other games and threw it into a mess of a multiplayer. You know it is bad when you feel like you have already played the game before on the first play.

Oh I do, plenty for comedic, suspense and drama values just to name a few. How is it that football ranks that high? Without trying to sound like I obviously don't enjoy watching football, what makes it so enjoying for you?

Maybe the surprise of not knowing what play is going to be done next?
Maybe being able to shout at the ref/coach for doing the wrong thing?

You know what players are good to begin with, you have an expectation of what team will do what as far as how far they'll make it.

Not at all. That's the beauty of any sport. You don't know who will win. There may be a favorite, but come game time, favorites don't matter anymore.  Upsets happen all the time. Most of the time, a game can change rather quickly. There are a ton of different strategies to use. There is a lot of brains involved in sports. It is not just how good the players are, but how they are managed and the plays that are called. You never know what could happen next. There is always that big play or goal that gets everyone excited. There is the fact that your team is representing YOUR city/state. I could go on and on but my point is that there are plenty of things that make watching sport's games great.

If you really think about it, sports cover a lot of movie genres as well. There is always some drama between rivals, after huge wins or after a crushing loss. Players often bring comedy into sports. There is always suspense in every game. Sports cover a lot of the bases.