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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 17:30:33 PM »
Zoxee: Of course he's fishy, but that's all you've got. That's what I'm saying. Maybe he is a hacker, maybe he isn't, but what if he isn't? You play this game. You should know that spectating isn't enough to confirm a careful cheater. In addition, we all have our moments where we're just like "How the hell did I just do that?" I one-shotted some guy from across the map south outside in pipeline with a pistol back when I played 2.6. It was complete bullshit, but I don't hack. There's so much else to consider. High mouse sensitivity, sound whoring, ini tweaking, ghosting, stat padding. I don't like that kind of stuff (although I did tweak my ini in the past) but you can't just go ban happy.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 17:19:25 PM »
Well m8, if u had read the long thread concerning this guy, it illustrates exactly the problem
we have today. Banning noob kid cheaters who just bought some hack and have a tracker
with 500 kills and a FR of 5, 6 or 7 ispretty easy and not the issue here.

We are talking here about the dangers of banning someone who is not easy to convict because
his case is blurred, either many years of gameplay, or using just 1 single advantage that he
masters perfectly like a WH+SS blocker only for example.

This guy i just mentioned didn't lose time to hop on the forum and state that he is a family guy,
hast a legit job a dog and a garden and only plays because he loves the game, hosts a server
bla-bla etc in a very mature way... Well there was no hard proof to explain his fishy sessions
or his 6.12 FR on Border with 11.000 kills and he went away with it, continuing to pawn 24-0
sessions in total impunity.

That's what i am against sry.

I remember the engineer. He's a massive stat padder and camper, and only plays border and Ice. He plays like a dirtbag, but it doesn't mean he's hacking. He shouldn't be banned unless he's caught hacking - which requires proof.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 17:04:20 PM »
No, I mean you really are serious?

Look, I don't have a problem with you either, but what I'm implying is that one example from 3 months ago is fewer casualties than have already been caused by pit's method.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 17:00:42 PM »
if u read the forums the thread exists and is 3 months old.
It was just an example of what kind of failure ur system would be.

You've got to be trolling. I don't believe you're this much of an idiot.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 16:56:19 PM »
Talkin about "hard Proofs", i still got this one in my throat, still active, no proof, no ban.

http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/800926/%21The_Engineer%21/

ProGamers might be twice maybe thrice as good a s the normal player,
but when the ration reaches x5 x6 or above, then i guess i shit on any evidence sry.

This is not the place to post that. Post it in Cheater Submission.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 16:41:54 PM »
Even if u guys consider what Pit is doing as fucked up, it's always soooooooo easy to criticize when
you're not in charge... wtf u want, take his place ? well do it, but pls stop camouflaging your intentions
under that purity and justice-for-all BS, it just stinks.

Just like in politics, as long as someone's in the opposition, they talk about how the government is doin BS,
promises new hopes, milk honey and work for all but as soon as the come to power, they act exactly
as their predecessors or even worse... because they have to face reality.

I guess if we had a "weak pussy" in charge, the hacker problem would be much greater today.

Intentions are irrelevant. Evidence isn't biased and it doesn't have an opinion.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 16:22:40 PM »
What I'm doing is controversial, sure, but at leat I'm trying to be coherent. You couldn't be more contradicting yourself, with what you wrote in that quote above.

Yeah that's a mild way of putting it. More like wrong.

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mAAp Project / Re: Map Testers Wanted
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 16:12:32 PM »
I always dreamed about School map with civils. Some kind of Bieslan.

Do you know Bieslan?

I know the tragedy, but idea for map isn't bad.

I'm pretty sure the closest you could get to that without trouble is an abandoned building. I'm not even sure about that though. I'd recommend staying clear of the idea.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 16:09:26 PM »
Damn these admins banning without proof...



Show me proof? Ain't got one? LOL THEN UNBAN ME NOW!!

Seriously, I'm not mad but this is getting funny. I see KiLLaMaN banning without proof too, then he comes and bitches about pit-23 banning some other guy? Is that Orso your friend or what? Lemme show you something:

http://aao25.com/cheater-submission/sad-today-player-blowmy%29-dingdong/

Damn, that's some concrete proof you got there dawg!! Congratz! But, oh wait...

As of now, I'm still getting banned without proof on a daily basis. Is that a bad or a good thing? You tell me, it doesn't bother me to be honest.

Apparently, for some it isn't. So, if you ever will unban some random guy caught in the same way you ban me, I'm going to demand an unban too.

You (pit) and I know that I cheat, but: "It's not what you know, but what you can prove in court!" (Law Abiding Citizen)

Either you approve what pit-23 is doing, or with this "show me proof" rule you're gonna have a baaaad time :p

The problem is this thread is about the new banning policy, not what admins have done in the past, pit included. Post this somewhere else.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:56:38 PM »
That is an awful way of looking at things.

Agreed.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:54:39 PM »
Theother alternative where i could agree with you is by accepting that this war can't be won,
because there will always be new cheaters, so making collateral damage among true legit players
would be unjustified and unbearable.

ok. But u have to finally decide for either one of the alternatives :

1. Let's take errors in count but waste as many hackers as possible
2. Let's understand this will never end, so let's always require proof.

choose.

The thing is this whole thing will end sooner rather than later at this rate. This crusade would make sense for a game with a lot of players. There is no glorious battle against the hackers. If you find one and can prove it, get rid of him, otherwise stop screwing up Sergio's gig.

People's future in this game should not rely solely on trust in someone's judgement-without evidence.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:49:47 PM »
I don't remember exactly what I said, but the likely hood that Jonny was going to go through with it was much less than you, where you already did. His was just a threat, yours was an action.

The point, Pit: You are arguing for no evidence to be required in order to permanently ban people from the game. How do you expect to find evidence to back up your argument when your argument is about evidence being unnecessary? Evidence is the path to the truth. Do you care about the truth?

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:44:36 PM »
You want to achieve a clean victory in a conflict with no victims at all. this doesn't exist m8.

errare humanum est.

Which is exactly why trying to ban all hackers and achieve a clean game is a foolish dream. There is only so much that is available to sacrifice. This community is circling the drain, so why finish it off before its time? I doubt if you'd be singing the same tune if you are a good friend of yours got banned and you knew it was bullshit.

Which, by the way: This thread is bullshit.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Banned D3n@tur@t
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:39:49 PM »
THX FOR YOUR INPUT INTO THE GOOGLE TRANSLATOR. PLEASE PROCEED.

TRANSLATION DONE :

Don't intentionally misrepresent someone's argument. You are supposed to battle with logic and reason. Strawmanning and generalizing doesn't get you anywhere.

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Ban Appeals / Re: Bans without "hard proofs"
« on: Thursday, August 02, 2012, 15:34:07 PM »
Unban the people you banned without proof, spectate them and record it. This all falls back on you being too lazy/ignorant to do it. It's not that hard. You should follow Sergio's example and stop thinking you know it all. There is a reason he's the anti-cheat guy. You're making the staff look bad, how can you not see that? Assist banning someone is all the proof you need, but if you manually ban someone, you'd better be able to prove the person is guilty or it's just going to flood the forums with...well THIS SHIT.

and Zoxee, you have precisely no idea what you're talking about. You're argument is nonsensical.

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