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i do agree.  unfortunately no matter what kind of map u build, there will always be a few campers. no one likes waiting 2+minutes till the start of the next round if just 1 guy is alive. but it happens and there isn't much anyone can do to stop it. maybe kill the camper a few times and he will rage quit

Corrupter, everyone gets this. Sometimes it will load for u on map change, other times you have to ctrl-alt-del and stop the armyops.exe process. i do however notice that it seems to be assist related somewhere. As map changes outside of assist seem to never crash. They always load fast and glitch free. So maybe ELiZ or someone else can check and see whats going on

The Glass room, well what can u say except for the fact that a D player can run in there after assault gets obj and be protected from gun fire. All he has to do is chuck nades or flashes at the assault player and not get shot because the glass is bullet proof.

this can easily be defeated by going out of offices towards staircase and boom up to the 3rd floor u are without ever having to go into the conference room. also take notes in the available smoke nades u have. pop one of them bad boys off and thow it inside the conference room, wait a few secs and u are concealed.

i didnt add the quote about the obj choke point. Truth be told, i could make the room bigger with various objects inside the room. i honestly have no problems grabbing the obj and getting out. see i made this map in hopes to bring back teamwork. obviously like any other map, if ur the last on ur team its a slim chance you will win.  This is how me and wolf and several other players work as a team to win.


I make it into the ceo's office. i first check the vent in the office for enemies then immediately check the ceo's restroom  meanwhile wolf is in the secretary's office looking into the filing room and office room for e's, once he does that he then checks the secretary's vent for e's.

at this point, wolf hangs out around secretary's  desk (since it provides cover) while i place breacher on the door. during all this we keep our ears open for a enemy that may be coming up the vents thru the 1st floor..

so u see we watch each others back. Now as i stated before this map is trying to get people back onto teamwork. It seems alot of what destroyed this game is that people turned the game from one that uses teamwork and strategy into a run and gun. All people care about is Kills. This is (hopefully) forcing people to make a team effort to gain objective. Most people wont play as a team. I have had no problems at all with taking obj, covering whoever is taking obj and extraction of the obj. I guess its all about who is on your team and if they would rather go play rambo instead of working as a unit

I think I would prefer the type Assault.

Classic is  really favoring defense, just as the old classing Bridge Crossing itself.

i also agree with this

Do you guys think this warrants a public vote? As usual, we'll do what the majority wants (within reason).

i agree. should there be a vote? i mean u guys are so worried about these "ss". so if the votes said "take the ss out" and the game is over run by hackers then what? u quit the game and never come back because theres hackers in? i mean does someone have another way to catch hackers that everyone can agree on? this isnt to spy on your bank account numbers, the girl ur cheating on ur wife with on facebook or any other conspiracy theory. its to catch cheaters plain and simple. i notice people come here to complain without adding how to do it effectively another way. so what can be used as a effective measure against cheaters and still allow you guys to stop complaining? i see a few people complaining about it, but they obviously arent too concerned if they are still playing the game knowing these things.

i agree with yahoo on this specific thing. if u dont like it, dont install it. that simple. its not hard to understand that concept or is it Dav3?

i understand that dav3. but its only been out like what? 2 days, maybe a 1 1/2 days considering auth was down. what do u expect? to be such a great map that every server in assist host it and every server to be full? give it some time bro, lets see what it does before jumping to conclusions.

lol. dav3. when there isnt a mafioso member in our server, our server usually doesnt have anyone in it. and thats no matter what map we have any of our 3 servers on. see i have noticed people dont care what map they play. as long as they are playing with people who respect them and people who they see as a cool bunch.  noone is in our server now not because of the map, look at our other 2 servers, they arent on breakout. so why arent there people in there if what u say is true? we arent here to argue cause we can go back and forth all night. if ur talking server wars, then mafioso servers usually have more activity in them 9 times out of 10 then any other usa server. and thats not even on the weekends, on the weekends we get alot of players in our servers, last weekend we had 3 servers going, 1 was full, the second had 18 players and the 3rd had 10 players. but this isnt some kind of "My server is better than yours" thread. lol. i said what i had to say about if they want to bring back the original, then im fine with that