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Correct.

This thing needs to be non-honor. Until we have some general mechanism, I want that admin to just disabled hackhunter. I tried to contact him, but so far no response.

Here is an update to my dictatorship "no proof" ban rule, which I think will make everybody a little bit more happier (well, honestly I don't care about making you happier, but this change actually has logical sense):

First ban of this kind is a temporary "warning" ban (e.g. for 1-4 weeks). Second is permanent.

Rationale:
Because "no proof" ban method is prone to errors by definition, this will minimize banning of innocent players, while at the same time, it will not affect banning of cheaters. Possible scenarios:
- innocent people banned will be released and happy
- accidental cheaters ("my cat jumped on keyboard and it executed inject.exe") will be released and may even become legit players (lol)
- real cheaters will still cheat, but maybe more carefully this time (less owning), if not, they will be caught eventually anyway

So now i will unban _all_ accounts banned using this method (those were all temp bans, according to above).

I can pin point people where they are with sound... im just saying and some of yall posting here know what I mean.

Some people "pin point" with sound, some with ghosting, some with other stuff...

But I don't care what method is used for "pin pointing", as they all are indistinguishable. And "pin pointing" is bad and therefore bannable.

;-P

Thx Pit 

Don't thank me. I didn't do it to please anyone. This case simply wasn't clear enough for me at this point.

If you do that Pit, we won't have any problems anymore right ?

No, it would be almost the same. Only instead of people shouting "you can't ban without proof", there would be people shouting "you can't ban based on this recording, it doesn't show anything".

Impressive and nice post. But if you had read my first reply in this thread, you could save yourself a lot of time and effort.

Talking about his experience, knowledge of map, great sound, low ratio, good reputation, etc. etc. etc. is really pointless, I'm not arguing with this, I assume this is all correct.

The trigger for the ban was a single action he made in that tunnel. Let me describe it for you again in more detail:
1) Player is proning facing the A end of the tunnel, waiting for opfor X which is expected to come there.
2) Opfor Y enters the B end of the tunnel (from behind of the proning player).
3) Opfor Y gets killed instantly by the player, but the player didn't even look like he moved. After the kill he is still proning in direction A.

How do they call it? 180 degree turn, "on a dime"? But this time it was while proning.

Go find that thread and show me where I agreed with him. Go ahead. I'd love to see it. Not only are you avoiding the argument, but you're now accusing me of doing something I never did.

I didn't say you agreed. I said you were quiet. Very quiet comparing to what you say now.

Also, the whole "the person before me was worse" argument is a very weak one and justifies nothing. The point is that you're compromising the integrity of the game just to "try" to catch a few cheaters. I put try in parenthesis because it isn't certain whether you're banning cheaters or not.

Can you just read the verbatim text I wrote, without creating additional intentions I had in mind? My point was not to criticize Jonny. I was writing about the scale of your reaction to my actions, by comparison.

Pit, you can try to rule AA like a dictator, but you can't stop people from leaving. Keep using rules that could potentially punish legit players and you'll have nobody left to play the game.

I perfectly understand that you don't like this way of banning, I don't like it also, there is nothing likable in it. But please spare me this "Pit is a dictator and goes after good legit players" talk, cause this is not what is happening. And don't talk about "potential", there is always a potential for abuse when we control the auth system.

I seriously hope you're joking. Comparing a murder case to a video game is laughable.

Just like comparing a ban to throwing people in jail...

What I find the most disappointing about this thread is Pit's attitude. Apparently legitimate concerns are now "bitching."

Why you think I referred to all critic as bitching? By bitching I meant... well... bitching, there was a bit of it, wasn't it?