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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Sunday, June 05, 2016, 12:19:55 PM »
This should be clear cut and simple. Noone has the right to go in anyones back door for any reason ever.
We know you have theright to ban people for cheating etc. But you dont have the right to go in and ban admin for being abusive or acting like ass holes. Its not needed. Its a poor excuse for going in the back door undetected/ We are not talking about banning cheats here. Its about assist staff going into a private server undetected. Thats the part I say is wrong and unexcep[table unless you made it clear in public, that this is your terms.
Oh, but that's something we never did or will do that way.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Sunday, June 05, 2016, 04:21:48 AM »
I thought this started with assist admin going into servers undetected like merlin said.  Thats the part thats not good from assist if its true?? I aint for admins who abuse. But I am for this is our rules and that applys to everyone. So if assist say from the start or even has to bring it in. Just as lobg as its up front terms. Same as server admin. They pay they make the rules as it says in so many servers. I banned only life bans on my server. One chance deal. At the begining I tried to tell people oh please read the rules. no early 203s/ Then arguing with clowns took its toll and it was then break a rules, your life banned. And it worked for me. I had a hardcore base of guys who new the rules never broke the rules and they enjoyed my server with its no nonsense approach. So everyone who liked my server stayed, because they knew there would be no crap just pure gaming.

Every thing just has to be upfront. Then theres no excuses.

But that's not power abuse, so that's perfectly ok, as long as rules are communicated upfront.

And we can not join servers as admins undetected. If we have admin rights, we have the special assist dev with it, and the pb power points like Merlin mentioned are not admin rights, they are kicking rights. But it's obvious that we have kicking rights as we can also ban people from whole of assist. How else can we stop catched cheaters from playing?
When we ban them from assist, they are not instantly kicked from a server, this is the way we can do that, but apart from the kicking rights, we do NOT have any other rights, since we do not need it for anything.

This falls perfectly within our responsibilities for anticheat without giving too many rights.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Sunday, June 05, 2016, 03:36:10 AM »
Just to be clear Vegeta; I was merely playing Devils Advocate, I've never heard about any staff abusing powers since I became admin here.

I don't think it's bad to include a ToS about behaviour for PSA though. I really see admin abuse as a problem, since there are just a few servers populated, banning someone just for the sake of it affects their ability to play the whole game, and this is in my opinion not good for the future of the game.

It does not happen a lot nowadays, but it can always happen.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Saturday, June 04, 2016, 18:09:16 PM »
Thats not how it worked on AA ever. SO now you believe you have the right to do this why?

They are on there own server thats what they pay for and its none of assists business. If people want to drop by for abuse thats up to there dumb ass, not yours. You dont need to protect them from abuse of that sort. All the players do is leave and its done. Simply nothing to do with AA or assist

Correct, correct,correct.

 Wrong wrong wrong Nonthing to do with assist.


 In the Forum and shout box yes it is. In the private servers no its not. Players can stay and be abused if there dumb enough. BUt it really doesnt happen.



His server his rules take it or leave it. How simples that? Not up to you to over ride a guy who pays the bills. Like I said AA never done it. you dont have the right. Even if you are doing it for a right reason. Its not you paying the server bill.




Yes he does rightly or wrongly he pays the bills. Thats is why you dont have the right togo over him.
 And thats is freedom of choise. the players have the same freedom to leave the server empty.


Ok, so we agree partially on some points.

However, how does it makes a difference whether I play on their servers, or them hosting their servers on our assist server?
What gives them the right to abuse the powers on their servers, while we would not have the rights to intervene?

As said before, this does not happen, but I am playing devils advocate here, just to open up the discussion and think about it.
Why would they have the right to abuse their powers all they want, on our assist servers, on their private servers?

Isn't it us who pays the bills for the assist server as well? Ultimately, they are putting their servers on our servers. So taking your points exactly like you said, it ultimately is like you said: " And thats is freedom of choise. the players have the same freedom to leave the server empty."

We should not abuse any powers, but imo, neither the PSA should do so.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Saturday, June 04, 2016, 05:18:26 AM »
Assist has no rights on anyones server.  Admin can do what ever they want on there server . The only rights assist have is to ban  cheats. Any thing other than this is abuse of assist power.
No no, it goes both ways, my friend.

Any Private server admin has no right whatsoever to abuse powers on our auth system, and we have no rights to abuse our powers on their servers.

It seems some PSA thinks they are invincible and can do what they want, this is toxic for the whole community. I've seen people gettting kicked because they spamshot the admin on the server, so he kicked and made  a new rule. This is toxic and should be stopped.

Assist should do what it can to stop toxic behaviour. This includes:
- Banning cheaters
- Temporary bans on severe exploits
- Temporary bans on excessive intentional teamkilling
- Appropriate actions for power abuse.

For all assist players, it is our job to create a pleasant environment for them, it is so for PSA, and for auth. I don't think it's fair to make a PSA invincible. He should act like a good PSA. Power abuse on assist will ruin it for other players.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Saturday, June 04, 2016, 03:59:54 AM »
If I remember, players with lower PB Power can't kick someone with higher PB Power unless they are server admins ;)
Theres a post in our private area, I asked for others to post their PB Guids so I could add them as well, but no one replied, I don't know other admins main accounts, neither their guids(we do not receive player pbguids unless they get a kick), thats why I just added mine, same for namelock.
I don't mind if people kick me, I just gather proof if they do so to see if they are abusing their powers, and take appropriate action when needed and confirmed.

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General Chat / Re: DDoS and the facts about it
« on: Saturday, June 04, 2016, 03:38:07 AM »
only server owners should be able to do that, he has no business giving himself power without consent of server owners,  even if it was to stay on top of pit, what he did is wrong and unacceptable
I don't fully agree. I agree that just kicking people should not always been allowed, however, I think every assist admin, should have kick rights, in order to immediately kick out cheaters.

If I ban a player from assist, he is still able to play as long as he is still in the server, wouldn't it be in everyones benefit if I can kick that cheater out as well - immediately?

I've seen some server admins abusing their powers like hell, while they use OUR assist server for authentication.
What gives them more rights to do this kind of stuff?

I think the above reason to have to kick rights should fully allow me to - in case it's necessary - join every server with admin rights, when it is needed to stop a cheater.

However, the rights should NOT be abused for kicking for no reason. As long as I do NOT see this happening, I'm totally fine to have an admin also handling anti-cheat having kick rights.

I'll ask you a very controversial question:
If an admin kicks me, just because he's powerhungry and doesn't like getting killed, can I then join as assist admin, and kick him, as he is playing on assist server ultimately?

In fact, it's exactly the same behaviour as he did, but as server admin, it seems to get tolerated, and as assist admin, shit just hits the fan.

- Note: This did not happen. I am against that kind of behaviour, I just want to open eyes that server admins should not be immune if they are being toxic. They have a privilege with responsibilities. If you abuse this, I think a punishment should be in place just to stop these practices from happening. This is in everyones benefit in the long term.

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Assist Support / Re: Someone hijacked my tracker account
« on: Saturday, June 04, 2016, 03:28:38 AM »
yeah the last server played is israely.. so how do i get them back?
Do you know how he possible could get into your account?

You can try reaching someone via the tracker forum, however, it will be difficult since Homey is not on a lot.
Tracker is not our system, we merely use their information for our assist system. However, even although you can login with your battletracker account, we can not retreive information about the username/pw. This is all encrypted and not visible for us.

I wish I could've helped in this matter, but I am afraid it;s not in my hands at the moment.

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Matches & Scrims / Re: Scrim vs FAK
« on: Tuesday, May 17, 2016, 11:53:05 AM »
Yea - I believe is much harder to have a fun - to play without being with your clan mates in TS. It's a huge advance to play scrims because you can learn a lot from it, but in this case you can't do anything about it. Depend of players will they install the TS-3 program (Did I say it right?) and if they are ready to buy a mic and start talking! :-)
I really never used mic in my whole life so little bit confused about it, but maybe I will give it a try, depend of Scorpy if he is willing to play scrim also. :-)
Just do it, there are always people on who like to play with mixteams.

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General Chat / Re: compliment.
« on: Saturday, May 14, 2016, 03:58:20 AM »
Thanks :)

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General Chat / Re: league
« on: Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:15:38 PM »
I'm so sorry guys, but in the end, brunette always wins! :-D (That's fair Bart)

Ob - La - Di - Bla - Da!
 He-he!

 :style:


I'll take the challenge :)

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General Chat / Re: league
« on: Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 11:28:23 AM »
It would be great if all assist admins will make a tournament agains each other, I never saw any of you playing... :-D
It's time to start playing, leave the brain on vacation for a while and join to play with us some maps, once in a week for 1 hour?! It could be awesome? :-D
Teddy, Koden and etc...this goes to all of you also! :-D
I'm playing matches sometimes.
And a tournament wouldn't be fair, it would make Spanky mad :)

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Miscellaneous / Re: [Aapg] game crashing at start up
« on: Sunday, May 08, 2016, 11:54:45 AM »
I guess it will take a while till i get used to this game. Much more recoil than AA2. Besides that, is there a possibility to get a scope, simular or identical to the SF weapons in AA2. The only scopes i've seen on automatic weapons are small red dots, which don't zoom. Hell, getting owned bigtime lol
It's been removed in an old version when there wasn't any sway or spray when unscoped. People used scoped guns only and just unscoped in close combat, that was pretty OP back then.

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Miscellaneous / Re: [Aapg] game crashing at start up
« on: Friday, May 06, 2016, 11:46:00 AM »
Yeah, these days you'll have an hard time finding a populated server that hosts either Overload or Homestead, maybe some Checkout servers, but other than that is nearly completely Inner Hospital (TTtNg and KidZ offer some variety) and the usual bdx maps which are small 6vs6 maps, sort of competitive (if you can stand being able to shoot and get shot through "walls"). Back at the beginning the old beta surely featured less maps but the map rotation list was somewhat quite enjoyable...that didn't last long unfortunately.
shooting through walls isn't as bad anymore as it used to be, trust me :D

Imo watchdog, shadowstep and siege are quite enjoyable now

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