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Offline Ganja

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #90 on: Friday, March 07, 2014, 10:47:46 AM »
It was indeed fixed/changed in later versions.

You could still do 'no Advanced Marksman' , but it would give you an m16 instead (on all maps I believe).

While we're at it. Would it be possible to give 'no gun' to people that haven't done their sniper training and get sniper forceclassed. Hope you see what I mean. For now, those people get m16 in sniper rounds, it's a bit ridiculous

Offline ArmyAntiCheat

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #91 on: Friday, March 07, 2014, 12:53:08 PM »
I think as AA moves on, the issues will be fixed as well.

Offline Alex

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #92 on: Friday, March 07, 2014, 15:07:05 PM »
While we're at it. Would it be possible to give 'no gun' to people that haven't done their sniper training and get sniper forceclassed. Hope you see what I mean. For now, those people get m16 in sniper rounds, it's a bit ridiculous
No, that would be awful. It's not the player's fault the admin decided to forceclass. Why punish them? Unless it's clearly labeled as a FC server, that would be very unfair.

Offline Ganja

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #93 on: Friday, March 07, 2014, 15:57:14 PM »
No, that would be awful. It's not the player's fault the admin decided to forceclass. Why punish them? Unless it's clearly labeled as a FC server, that would be very unfair.

But it could encourage them to do the sniper training ..

Offline langy

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #94 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:06:22 AM »
People continue to come back and play this game because its still the Best AA Version to date, There are many bugs in the game and has been there since first release and as far as im concerned if you start tinkering and trying to take out every single little bug the game becomes boring and you start to lose the players who like the game for what it is. Before the flaming war begins i dont use either Exploit and most players of the game knows how to avoid it so please guys focus on the important issues of the buggy Assist Loader and the Pb problems you currently are facing at the moment.

Simple fix.. All server Owners Enforce a law on there server to not use it.. if used Kick/Ban and lets not stuff this great game up with Fixes that are useless in the whole scheme of things.

Offline Alex

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #95 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:10:36 AM »
People continue to come back and play this game because its still the Best AA Version to date, There are many bugs in the game and has been there since first release and as far as im concerned if you start tinkering and trying to take out every single little bug the game becomes boring and you start to lose the players who like the game for what it is. Before the flaming war begins i dont use either Exploit and most players of the game knows how to avoid it so please guys focus on the important issues of the buggy Assist Loader and the Pb problems you currently are facing at the moment.

Simple fix.. All server Owners Enforce a law on there server to not use it.. if used Kick/Ban and lets not stuff this great game up with Fixes that are useless in the whole scheme of things.
Your post makes very little sense. What's the difference of us enforcing the rules and server admins enforcing the rules? It's better for Assist to do it because there is not always a server admin on. Also, how does getting rid of exploits (which most people hate) make the game boring? Did you have fun exploiting? Or did you just have fun bitching about people exploiting? What about the exploits made the game more fun to you?

Also, there is nothing wrong with PB. PB is how it's always been. and how is the Assist loader buggy? This forum is here  for a reason, and a major part of that is to report bugs and problems. Don't complain about bugs you never reported.

Offline langy

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #96 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:28:08 AM »
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Did you have fun exploiting? Or did you just have fun bitching about people exploiting? What about the exploits made the game more fun to you?

As stated Above i dont use them or bitch about them i just avoid being hit by it, if i start bitching about the little things then any chance i have of bringing more players back to AA2.5 goes out the window.

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Also, there is nothing wrong with PB. PB is how it's always been. and how is the Assist loader buggy? This forum is here  for a reason, and a major part of that is to report bugs and problems. Don't complain about bugs you never reported.

Your Update is riddled with Pb Kicks for Slot Closed, And it hasnt been posted on here because the community i focus on is made aware while installing the assist and they are taken care of by my forum. Im suprised your only just been made aware of it? Maybe its a problem my end with the server and if so im willing to listen to any fixes that you can provide.
« Last Edit: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:32:03 AM by langy »

Offline Alex

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #97 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:34:40 AM »
As stated Above i dont use them or bitch about them i just avoid being hit by it, if i start bitching about the little things then any chance i have of bringing more players back to AA2.5 goes out the window.

Your Update is riddled with Pb Kicks for Slot Closed, And it hasnt been posted on here because the community i focus on is made aware while installing the assist and they are taken care of by my forum. Im suprised your only just been made aware of it? Maybe its a problem my end with the server and if so im willing to listen to any fixes that you can provide.
The only reoccurring PB kick I've seen is for "PB Restriction". I've never seen, nor heard of a "pb slot closed" kick and would like to see the actual kick message. I've been playing almost every night for the past 2 weeks and have never seen such a kick. Also,  you should never just assume a bug is known to the developers. If you find a bug, report it. Worst case you get told it's being worked on.

As for the exploits, you never addressed my main point. How is Assist fixing them bad? How does it make the game boring? If you don't use them or don't complain, how does it even affect you?
« Last Edit: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:36:20 AM by KiLLaMaN »

Offline langy

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #98 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:49:56 AM »
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As for the exploits, you never addressed my main point. How is Assist fixing them bad? How does it make the game boring? If you don't use them or don't complain, how does it even affect you?

Because it makes you no better than the actual developers who tried to make Americas Army better when they produced AA3,AAPG

People who have been playing AA2 for a long time love the game for what it is.. SIMPLE I dont complain or Enforce the rule because in Australian Servers 9/10 times Guy on West Wing Roof is dead within first 2 min and using the no Advanced Marksmen maybe offers the advantage of the 203 spam to the front Doors of Hospital but after 1-2 spams people improvise to avoid it.

Most US servers on Hospital Enforce the 30 sec rule with 203 which normally stamps out that issue when Admin is on which is the choice of all Server Owners., Does this warrant having to fix it completely when u may have Other Server providers who allow it and actually make Hospital a little more challenging?

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you should never just assume a bug is known to the developers. If you find a bug, report it. Worst case you get told it's being worked on.

like i said it may be a configuration in my server settings, but thinking of it i seen it alot on the 82nd Server and assumed you guys were aware of it and trying to provide a fix with this link on your assist that was there before last update.



« Last Edit: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 01:02:39 AM by langy »

Offline Alex

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #99 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 00:57:46 AM »
Because it makes you no better than the actual developers who tried to make Americas Army better when they produced AA3,AAPG

People who have been playing AA2 for a long time love the game for what it is.. SIMPLE I dont complain or Enforce the rule because in Australian Servers 9/10 times Guy on West Wing Roof is dead within first 2 min and using the no Advanced Marksmen maybe offers the advantage of the 203 spam to the front Doors of Hospital but after 1-2 spams people improvise to avoid it.

Most US servers on Hospital Enforce the 30 sec rule with 203 which normally stamps out that issue when Admin is on which is the choice of all Server Owners., Does this warrant having to fix it completely when u may have Other Server providers who allow it and actually make Hospital a little more challenging?


There's no point in arguing this anymore. If you can't see why fixing exploits is good and not bad, there's nothing I can really do. How you related fixing exploits to creating a new game (your AA3 comparison) I don't know. It makes no sense and I'll just leave it at that. You're in the minority.

I would still like to actually see the PB kick you're talking about. next time it happens take a SS please.

Offline langy

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #100 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 01:05:10 AM »
Ok ill take the SS and be more than happy to help

As provided in above response i assumed you were made aware and is why you had the Auth Slot Closed Link on bottom of assist recently.

Offline Bart!

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #101 on: Saturday, March 08, 2014, 02:26:19 AM »

Most US servers on Hospital Enforce the 30 sec rule with 203 which normally stamps out that issue when Admin is on which is the choice of all Server Owners., Does this warrant having to fix it completely when u may have Other Server providers who allow it and actually make Hospital a little more challenging?
I think we got a different interpretation of the word challenging here, but imo it is not more challenging for everybody if there is 1 more 203 with a faster slot, it is far more easy for the person with the 203 to get a cheap kill. Of course it is harder/more annoying for the other guy pushing forward, effectively slowing the game down.

I think it is way more challenging to fight with a gun you are less customed with and of which the aim isn't rediculously easy with a rediculously easy scope and autofire.

But maybe that's just me.

Offline nevertalks

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #102 on: Sunday, March 09, 2014, 15:29:42 PM »
Making sure my kid does't play this game anymore then! No sniping for him he's too young.
*uncensoring chat*
« Last Edit: Sunday, March 09, 2014, 15:35:59 PM by nevertalks »

Offline OICURMT2!

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #103 on: Sunday, March 09, 2014, 19:20:57 PM »
The setting to disable sniper(No Advanced Marksman) on the Parental Control page is now always set to False. It has been exploited to gain weaponry that was not intended.

In 1 hour all Clients/Servers should have the new Antipoke.u, until then you might get version mismatch on the file.


This is a good patch... however, it should be stated that it was indeed the intent to eliminate the S24 via parental control and substitute it for an alternate weapon.  Since the slot was an SF slot, the default M4A1 was used instead.

A better mod would have been to include a barrier just outside WW Lower door, which prevents spamming into 1st floor lobby (underpass) and eliminated the 203 spam from escort (eg: AA4 has a less clear line of sight (LOS) and you have to be on the 4th floor escort building or on the ground to hit a target in WW Lower).

I don't like any server that enforces a rule for spam (i.e. time).  If the map has issues, then change the map, not the rules.  Same goes for the game in general.  Eliminating the parental control is a great example of how to change the game to better suit the audience, though, personally, i think a sniper on such a small LOS map as hospy is just plain illogical.

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Offline Alex

Re: No Advanced Marksman Exploit Fixed
« Reply #104 on: Sunday, March 09, 2014, 21:10:18 PM »
  If the map has issues, then change the map, not the rules.
I appreciate your opinion and you do make a good point, but your opinion runs contrary to most of the community. Any time we touch an original map we get blasted. Spanky added a railing to WWR to try to get rid of the "invisible player" issue and that went over so poorly we had to change it back. A fucking railing got that response, I'm assuming moving structures would be even worse.

 

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