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Hey guys !

I just want to give my opninion and be honest about my future first without getting negative feedback afterwards.
I used to tweak the game a lot to get advantage and i did use hacks multiple times and i am banned for that on things like
ESL and TWL. Anyway i would like to suggest some things to you what might help in getting players back and getting new players !

I would like to kick off with a thing what is in my eyes really important.

This game got a lot of players that are oldskool, they still play the game and thats what is like 70 % of americas army nowdays
We need to get new people and make like cool things to make reclame so people will join us and play with us.
Players are getting older and ofcourse evryone stops with playing then so we got less players, lets make a plan to get new players or
old players back and have fun with evryone.

Second, nothing beats the feeling ( in my opninion ) with lots of players on a teamspeak and play mixxes or scrims.
We should organise like 2-3 draft nights and people should contact evry player they know just to play 1 of the 3 draft nights.
They will see that there are still players who care about the game and will again bring back more players !

I cant give my opninion towards this to be honest but yes we need a good AC sysmtem so people cant cheat and have to be banned.
kr1z i suggest was saying something about UAC and stuff like eslwire and so ! we need a good AC client and i want to go further in to that.
My little brother plays lots of mine craft or something like that. The cool thing about that stupid pixel game is that evry day / week
its auto updates so hacks dont work anymore or they wont load and shit like that. Thats a good thing in my eyes.

Tweaks are part of the game, its like the tour de france with doping its just that little thing ( i need ) to play good and play with
a smooth gameplay. We should make a site lik gameconfigs where people can load some inis and try them so they all got the same thing
so its all fair !

what about a huge list of names of old aa players and send mass mails to them so we can organise this.

- Draft nights
- Meeting old skool players and have a good time on TS
- Building up the community again
- Organising stuff to get money for AC / ACI / WHATEVERRRRRR
- get a league back as soon as possible


The last thing i would suggest is to give evryone some postive energy, evryone is like oh the game is dying and bla bla bla.
When your mindset is like this its never gonna happen. We CAN and we WILL rebuild this game and when i am like older i still wanna
play some awesome urban rounds and the lovely map hospital. Its just so good to play this game when i have some free time.

Revuka

thats what i am talking about man, getting work done with all players.

work hard and play hard lets do this

Here is the message from the dev what jonny talked about:

Message subject:   Re: Hey
From:   [Dev]Doc
Sent:   23 Jul 2013 03:53
To:   deadmau5
 
 
Message

I have some bad news. There are two layers of legal hurdles that we'd have to miraculously jump through in order to release source for AA2. The first layer is Epic - they expressly forbid the release of source content as part of the licensing agreement.

Though I don't think it would be impossible to get them to allow it somehow (that licensing agreement was written a long time ago, when we were Epic's first licensee, and I'm willing to bet they'd relent), the next part would be impossible. Army legal. The full might of the bureaucratic machine would have to be brought to bear on the question of whether or not to release official US Gov't property. That would take years, if it ever did actually happen. IT would absolutely be easier, better, cleaner, and faster for a team of modders to make AA2.9 from scratch at that point.

So, we are left with few options. One is to hold out hope that we can get our [TOS Violation] together and maybe AA:PG will be close-to-worthy of it's legacy at some point. Next build should be removing the accuracy cone completely, for instance, among other things. Another is that maybe we're able to get AA2 supported again through the channels we have with Steam, given the precedent set by 3 and PG...we couldn't convince the purse-holders last time that it would be worthwhile, but maybe we can try again and get AA2 back on line...though I kinda doubt it. OR - and this is a big 'or' - enterprising modders can take tools like CE3 and UDK and just...kinda...make AA2.9ish. A long shot, but it would likely come together far sooner than any approval process on our end - if that ever did, in fact, come together.

Sorry it couldn't be good news, man.




But I have an idea maybe we could have a chat with this dev and as he mentioned they might open AA2 section again.So I was thinking might we could offer some help then that coders from here could help making new patch for AA2 or something like that.Also im in contact with a guy who has a coding team maybe we could team up with them also?There are many ways we could make this work again

Most of the newer maps were only created on a fun basis, i think it's time we give
back AA the credit it had at the beginning. New Maps should be created / Existing maps
should be modified on a regular basis with new realistic strategic goals to accomplish / reproduce
possible real life combat situations. For that purpose i propose the creation of a forum section
to discuss their design (not the coding) in terms of military strategics.
Maybe that way even the army would maybe retake interest in the whole thing one day who knows.

will do 

Here is the message from the dev what jonny talked about:

Message subject:   Re: Hey
From:   [Dev]Doc
Sent:   23 Jul 2013 03:53
To:   deadmau5
 
 
Message

I have some bad news. There are two layers of legal hurdles that we'd have to miraculously jump through in order to release source for AA2. The first layer is Epic - they expressly forbid the release of source content as part of the licensing agreement.

Though I don't think it would be impossible to get them to allow it somehow (that licensing agreement was written a long time ago, when we were Epic's first licensee, and I'm willing to bet they'd relent), the next part would be impossible. Army legal. The full might of the bureaucratic machine would have to be brought to bear on the question of whether or not to release official US Gov't property. That would take years, if it ever did actually happen. IT would absolutely be easier, better, cleaner, and faster for a team of modders to make AA2.9 from scratch at that point.

So, we are left with few options. One is to hold out hope that we can get our [TOS Violation] together and maybe AA:PG will be close-to-worthy of it's legacy at some point. Next build should be removing the accuracy cone completely, for instance, among other things. Another is that maybe we're able to get AA2 supported again through the channels we have with Steam, given the precedent set by 3 and PG...we couldn't convince the purse-holders last time that it would be worthwhile, but maybe we can try again and get AA2 back on line...though I kinda doubt it. OR - and this is a big 'or' - enterprising modders can take tools like CE3 and UDK and just...kinda...make AA2.9ish. A long shot, but it would likely come together far sooner than any approval process on our end - if that ever did, in fact, come together.

Sorry it couldn't be good news, man.




But I have an idea maybe we could have a chat with this dev and as he mentioned they might open AA2 section again.So I was thinking might we could offer some help then that coders from here could help making new patch for AA2 or something like that.Also im in contact with a guy who has a coding team maybe we could team up with them also?There are many ways we could make this work again

That is by far the most exaustive and complete answer i've ever read from a developer about America's Army 2 future. The Steam part is far more interesting, might make the game far more visible. Anyway, at this point even Proving Grounds is looking and feeling quite refined enough to believe they will release it later this year (and it will "take" away some players from AA2, too).

Most of the newer maps were only created on a fun basis, i think it's time we give
back AA the credit it had at the beginning. New Maps should be created / Existing maps
should be modified on a regular basis with new realistic strategic goals to accomplish / reproduce
possible real life combat situations. For that purpose i propose the creation of a forum section
to discuss their design (not the coding) in terms of military strategics.
Maybe that way even the army would maybe retake interest in the whole thing one day who knows.

I completely agree with this. I think we should drop the silly and unfinished maps to save download space and get new users in the game quicker.

Glass Kill House - Obvious
Monkey Island - I like it but it's always been a pain in the ass
PBall - Only map with the physics mod but it doesn't belong in this game
Pool Day - Could be part of AA if the map was bigger and extended into other areas of the 'building'
Spankyville - Not sure on this one since it's purely offline and demonstrates stuff like physics and AI
Teh Yetis Lair - Old classic but not with AA values
UT04 - Maybe turn this into a training map for clans or just get rid of it?

Just those alone will save 45+ mb extracted and a 15mb download. Perhaps training maps can be removed or an optional download as well? I don't think some training maps work due to hard-coded communications.


It would also be good to take the devs attitude and modify existing maps, going through them one at a time and let the community decide on fixes, improvements, weapon loadouts and anything to do with the map dynamics. Most all the maps in AA were made and then never touched again except for bug fixes. It's about time they're visually upgraded or tweaked with 10+ years of player experience.


My opinion on the map roadmap is this:
1. Get rid of the maps that aren't "AA quality".
2. Remove training maps until a user wants to download them.
3. Combine them all together in one package or split them all up individually. It seems like Assist has 2 dozen different packages to download for maps and it seems unorganized/unoptimized (sorry Jonny & ELiZ...)
4. Start a thread for Border to get ideas flowing and make it the testing ground for revamping existing maps.
5. Sell Assist back to the devs once they want to get AA2 going again.