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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #15 on: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 17:25:16 PM »
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #16 on: Friday, September 17, 2010, 04:08:28 AM »
I find it very interesting you can't get DSL on a 1.5 mile long line, interesting because I work for British telecom installing DSL lines and Verizon must use a VERY different system to us... We have 4 mile long lines achieving sync rates of 2048/448 even 5 mile long lines at 512/256. although any longer than 5 miles and it usually does not work at all, and there are people on my patch that are over that limit and can only get satellite. We do not use any repeaters or anything, that is just a plain copper telephone line coming from the local exchange. At the upper limit my line is 1 mile long and I get 19330/1180 and thats just ADSL2. BT at the moment are rolling out VDSL2 tho it not coming to my area for a while, I am in a rural and sometimes backwards part of england so will have to wait until 2012, But that will give us 40mbit/10mbit with the DSLAM located in cabinets at the end of each street. I just can't understand why at 1.5 mile DSL doesn't work..


Edit: Just looked it up on Wikipedia, Not so different after all...
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The official maximum loop length for Verizon High Speed Internet, as of 2006, is 18,000 feet (5,500 m) (3.4 Miles) from the Central Office or remote DSLAM. Work is currently in place to extend the local loop length out to 24,000 feet (7,300 m) (4.5 Miles) The availability of DSL service depends also on details of outside plant including wire gauge and the absence of bridge taps, repeaters, load coils  or other devices that augment the telephone signal and impair the DSL one.

We also have repeaters and load coils but we take them off when the customer orders DSL.
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #17 on: Friday, September 17, 2010, 12:23:01 PM »
Most likely the line length is longer than what Spanky is describing. Also, you have old phone lines that were put in place 30 years ago, and spliced together dozens of times. All of this causes increased noise on the line. Basically if you have a perfect phone line you might be able to get it over the 3 mile limit.

If Spanky really is only 1.5 miles (line length) from his central office he should be able to get DSL without a problem, that's actually not far at all.

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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #18 on: Friday, September 17, 2010, 13:13:45 PM »
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and then theres europe with there awesome internet

There are still a few people who can't get any Internet at all but generally European governments subside the roll out of high speed internet so they get to use tax money to do it. Downside is we pay much more Tax in Europe than in the US.

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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #19 on: Friday, September 17, 2010, 13:30:40 PM »
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and then theres europe with there awesome internet

There are still a few people who can't get any Internet at all but generally European governments subside the roll out of high speed internet so they get to use tax money to do it. Downside is we pay much more Tax in Europe than in the US.

Barack Obama is trying his hardest to make it that with his socialist viewpoint. I don't care if we get free Internet and health care, the world isn't perfect, nor will it ever be. All this president it going to accomplish is running this counties financial system into the ground. But lets not get off topic here.  :)

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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #20 on: Friday, September 17, 2010, 14:54:46 PM »
My ISP got a grant from this:
http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/home.aspx

The 1.5 miles I describe is line-of-sight distance from my house to the tower my antenna points to. I assume the cable follows roads and it may be longer. When I first moved here, we had a Verizon guy come out and install a phone for us and he said the lines are so bad that we would be looking at 26k dial-up. There also wasn't any caller-id or many special features available for us here (even though those a-holes charged for it anyway...). I think it has to do more with the line than the distance although it looks like, by road, it's about 1.8 miles to the Verizon brick building. My neighbor is on dial-up with those same lines and they're always complaining about disconnects and issues (they had me try to swap out their dial-up modem several times).
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #21 on: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 03:42:41 AM »
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We are getting fiber rolled out in Australia at the moment, skrewy and I should have it avaliable to us within 1-2 years.

Isn't that all up in the air again now you've had a change of government? and what will happen to telstra when its finished, Lots of BT engineers used to emigrate to aus to go work for telstra, tho they don't want anyone at the moment, guess this is why?

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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #22 on: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 12:16:20 PM »
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In late 2010, the fate of the National Broadband Network lay in the result of the 2010 Australian Federal Election, with the opposition Coalition party vowing to scrap the NBN if elected, replacing it with subsidies and incentives to private companies to improve the legacy network.

Don't know what the latest is with this.

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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #23 on: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 13:33:38 PM »
What does anyone legally do with that speed? I can kinda understand the upload speed, that would be nice but the download?? That's overkill for HD YouTube streaming. I believe that's even overkill for 1080p streaming, unless it's RAW. If you're being illegal, that's a great speed but then you gotta wonder about using that 24/7 and being watched. Unless you're using those speeds all the time, and I don't see how you could legally, it's a waste of money IMO. I would go for one tenth of that speed if it meant incredible ping and jitter.
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #24 on: Monday, September 20, 2010, 01:44:08 AM »
I know what you mean, I'm at 256kbps upload and I usually don't bother with anything past 200mb. 25mbps would be great for upload, I couldn't imagine anything faster than that though really.
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 18:28:10 PM »
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #26 on: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 23:41:47 PM »
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #27 on: Friday, September 24, 2010, 17:32:16 PM »
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 13:37:08 PM »
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Re: First Step Internet
« Reply #29 on: Friday, October 01, 2010, 19:47:38 PM »
Updates! Still not hooked up...
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