Author Topic: New installation: First time user: cannot save training mission data (Read 10109 times)

USVMC · « **on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:34:32 PM »

I have posted this on Bt as well as I was not sure where to go.

First time user - Brand new installation using 25assist

After installation I see in 25assist menu:
SITREP
all green
Bt account created
logged into Bt with my Bt id
My AAO Uname (USVMC-AAO) is shown and is correct

Then I select TRAINING

and under Basic Training -> Marksmanship training -> Deploy

Game starts
I complete training
Game asks if I wish to save results

It tries to upload for about 45 seconds

then this message:

Saving your mission results
the server could not be updated
(error: err: check connection).
would you like to try again?

I retry the save and it gives the same result.
Disabled local firewall (WinXP) and try again: same result.
Disabled router firewall and try again: same result.
Created NAT rules (even though I will not run a server): same result.

In any case firewall settings are verified and correct - as MP works fine.

This is rather frustrating as it seems I can do only the first training.

Deployment works fine. Multiplayer works fine. No Auth issues whatsoever.

The in-game profile does not work and cannot be loaded it seems. All must be interfaced via 25assist. (I expect).

IÂ´d like to complete basic training before I venture out into the cyberwarzones.
Is completing all training possible, or can 2.5 only be used for multiplayer?

Thanks for any help

Alex · « **Reply #1 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:37:41 PM »

Unfortunately training doesn't do anything yet. Jonny had to rebuild the entire auth system and obviously training was not a top priority. Look on the bright side though, you don't have to do the super annoying escape and evade training to play SF maps.

USVMC · « **Reply #2 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:51:52 PM »

Quote from: KiLLaMaN on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:37:41 PM

Unfortunately training doesn't do anything yet. Jonny had to rebuild the entire auth system and obviously training was not a top priority. Look on the bright side though, you don't have to do the super annoying escape and evade training to play SF maps.

I see. OK fair enough - I will wait.

It seems the "save personell jacket" function needs to point to the 25assist server, hopefully he has access to the code for that. (Assuming the save uses the same data record structure as the AA version)

Maybe a workaround could be used by changing the local hosts file to point the old AA auth server address to the new 25assist server, but as I have no idea what those are I could not say for sure.

Thanks for the quick reply - I will play the offline mission for now and see what happens.

PS: Maybe a quick word about training in the faq could be useful for new players?

Alex · « **Reply #3 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:58:50 PM »

Quote from: USVMC on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:51:52 PM

I see. OK fair enough - I will wait.

It seems the "save personell jacket" function needs to point to the 25assist server, hopefully he has access to the code for that. (Assuming the save uses the same data record structure as the AA version)

Maybe a workaround could be used by changing the local hosts file to point the old AA auth server address to the new 25assist server, but as I have no idea what those are I could not say for sure.

Thanks for the quick reply - I will play the offline mission for now and see what happens.

PS: Maybe a quick word about training in the faq could be useful for new players?

You can still play multiplayer without training though. He made it to where the training restrictions do not apply anymore.

Archeh · « **Reply #4 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:59:39 PM »

Pretend that training doesn't exist because at this point it's not able to be used.

Spanky · Quote from: ELiZ on Monday, February 16, 2015, 09:57:26 AM

Quote from: USVMC on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:51:52 PM

I see. OK fair enough - I will wait.

It seems the "save personell jacket" function needs to point to the 25assist server, hopefully he has access to the code for that. (Assuming the save uses the same data record structure as the AA version)

Maybe a workaround could be used by changing the local hosts file to point the old AA auth server address to the new 25assist server, but as I have no idea what those are I could not say for sure.

It's not as simple as that. Training will likely never be re-implemented since the game code would have to be rewritten, and a database would have to be setup somewhere. Right now it uses the BT account system for verification but they don't have database tables for training saving. It would take a lot of work just to re-implement something that pissed off new users. The maps are still there so you can have fun with them but they don't do anything. Although, advanced marksmanship maps don't work, I'll have to create a substitute.

USVMC · « **Reply #6 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 16:48:09 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 16:02:29 PM

It's not as simple as that. Training will likely never be re-implemented since the game code would have to be rewritten, and a database would have to be setup somewhere. Right now it uses the BT account system for verification but they don't have database tables for training saving. It would take a lot of work just to re-implement something that pissed off new users. The maps are still there so you can have fun with them but they don't do anything. Although, advanced marksmanship maps don't work, I'll have to create a substitute.

I see. Sounds like way too much work to implement then.

As a suggestion, because the training code is present in the client, can you release the restrictions for sequential training and make it an open playground so at least new users like me can actually train?

No training requirements - No stats uploads - Just training

Maybe a console hack to set the training stats to 1 for all segments so they can be accessed without having to complete the previous segment or just hardcode it in the next client to allow access to all training areas and simply drop the save function.

From what I understand the way 25assist solves the 2.x end of life issues is quite elegant, hopefully this can be added to the client to make the game package complete.

Thanks for your considerations.

Spanky · Quote from: ELiZ on Monday, February 16, 2015, 09:57:26 AM

You should be able to open any training map at any time. Again, except for advanced marksmanship which when you load that map, it checks your AA personal jacket (which it can't connect to) to make sure you've completed basic training. I will try to make a new map for sniper training (with moving objects and whatnot) but that's not a priority right now.

USVMC · « **Reply #8 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 21:28:35 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 16:56:32 PM

You should be able to open any training map at any time. Again, except for advanced marksmanship which when you load that map, it checks your AA personal jacket (which it can't connect to) to make sure you've completed basic training. I will try to make a new map for sniper training (with moving objects and whatnot) but that's not a priority right now.

You are 100% right, I can launch all but the advanced marksmanship. It helps if you exit and re-deploy from 25assist instead of trying another training in-game. (ahum cough cough).

All crystal clear now, many thanks.

Spanky · Quote from: ELiZ on Monday, February 16, 2015, 09:57:26 AM

Quote from: USVMC on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 21:28:35 PM

You are 100% right, I can launch all but the advanced marksmanship. It helps if you exit and re-deploy from 25assist instead of trying another training in-game. (ahum cough cough).

I don't think there's really an easy way to fix that unless we remove all the scripting from all the training missions but that might break functionality.

USVMC · « **Reply #10 on:** Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 22:27:36 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 21:31:06 PM

I don't think there's really an easy way to fix that unless we remove all the scripting from all the training missions but that might break functionality.

Nah, I did it wrong. YouÂ´d probably be better off just removing the in-game menu-options pertaining to training and jacket/profile all together and refer to 25assist for all needs.

IMO ItÂ´s no bother at all to exit the game and relaunch via 25assist after a mission.

I just finished all training and it was fun - last one was really hard and the SF training exam was a bit tough naming friend/foe (had to look it up).

With regards to sniper training: I do not think that will be neccessary because you have an SR in the Offline mission.

guily6669 · « **Reply #11 on:** Thursday, February 23, 2012, 13:23:34 PM »

Quote from: KiLLaMaN on Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 15:37:41 PM

Unfortunately training doesn't do anything yet. Jonny had to rebuild the entire auth system and obviously training was not a top priority. Look on the bright side though, you don't have to do the super annoying escape and evade training to play SF maps.

LOL, that's the only good reason I don't care much about the trainings anymore.

That and the medic tests...

But it still was cool, When I first started playing AA back in 2004 or so, I was like DAMN this is like going to the army, we even have to make training first. I liked that, but it simply has gone and thank god I don't to do the escape and evade missions and having to go to school 15 minutes x3 for the medic....

ps: It's probably better to stay like this even though it lost a few realism...
Keep Cool

fEcAlMaTteR · « **Reply #12 on:** Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 12:02:50 PM »

Is this topic still relevant? My nephew created a new account and is unable to play because he hasn't completed training. And can't complete training because it wont save to jacket.

Any ideas?

Vanoke · « **Reply #13 on:** Wednesday, July 09, 2014, 12:36:28 PM »

If you close the game after dowing the training an start it up you will see it will update . But furst led it update after the training .than close and open game and training agan oke good luck

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