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Offline JunK

Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« on: Thursday, May 23, 2024, 18:46:50 PM »
Hey,

Im wondering if it’s possible to convert the shotgun from AA 2.8.5 to 25 Assist? And if it’s possible, can it be done? Shotguns will bring something new to 25Assist

*ive been playing some trainings a few weeks ago, the first SF training, before you go for the test you need to talk with some green berets members. On one of table you can see a shotgun. That’s why I’m asking about the shotgun.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Gr JunK

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Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #1 on: Friday, May 24, 2024, 03:57:05 AM »
Possible? Potentially.
Will it happen? Extremely unlikely.

As I'm sure you've noticed, we don't really work on the game itself nowadays. We don't really have the capacity to do so in a major way. And as much as this may seem like a not-so-major change, it would probably be a lot more work than you realise. Remember, we don't have access to the source code of this game. The modification you're suggesting would probably involve trying to reverse-engineer some parts of the code and changing the byte code of the game.
And I may be wrong in the details, but finding out what it takes is already quite a big task. So unfortunately this won't happen.
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Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #2 on: Friday, May 24, 2024, 09:59:37 AM »
I was just curious about it. You guys did it also with the uniforms. I remember the time that 2.5 the camo pattern of the uniforms were dessert on dessert maps. Nowadays you can see the digital camo pattern on the uniforms from 285.

Anyway, no I don’t know how much work it is, to do that kind of stuff.

Thanks for the information.

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Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #3 on: Friday, May 24, 2024, 11:54:55 AM »
I was just curious about it. You guys did it also with the uniforms. I remember the time that 2.5 the camo pattern of the uniforms were dessert on dessert maps. Nowadays you can see the digital camo pattern on the uniforms from 285.

Anyway, no I don’t know how much work it is, to do that kind of stuff.

Thanks for the information.
Good observations!

Back in the day we had a very talented and well motivated member of the team that was capable of and (somehow!) had the time to do such things. But unfortunately he's no longer actively involved in this project.
That's why I say we don't really have the resources to tackle such things.

I'm sorry if the above post felt aggressive or hostile. It certainly wasn't meant as such. People just often underestimate the amount of work seemingly small changes can take. And perhaps they also overestimate the number of members and/or amount of available time for the members of the staff here (or other projects for that matter).
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Offline Alex

Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #4 on: Saturday, May 25, 2024, 01:36:08 AM »
Good observations!

Back in the day we had a very talented and well motivated member of the team that was capable of and (somehow!) had the time to do such things. But unfortunately he's no longer actively involved in this project.
That's why I say we don't really have the resources to tackle such things.

I'm sorry if the above post felt aggressive or hostile. It certainly wasn't meant as such. People just often underestimate the amount of work seemingly small changes can take. And perhaps they also overestimate the number of members and/or amount of available time for the members of the staff here (or other projects for that matter).
I want to expand on this a bit. As far as 2.8.5 ports go, Eliz did the initial work with Spanky and I helping to do more fine fixes to get the maps working in 2.5.

That being said, the camo and maps were, I don't want to say easy, but a lot more straight forward. Texture importing was the majority of the work with some static mesh and sight line editing required to make it all work.

I am not super familiar with the 2.8.5 shotguns, but the editor we had to work with is Unreal 2.4 AT BEST. We couldn't even get the random spawns to work properly for maps like Dockside and Extraction. The point being that there is a very big difference between player skins and new weapon types being able to work in AA 2.5.

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Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #5 on: Saturday, May 25, 2024, 10:50:57 AM »
Am I hallucinating or is there a shotgun mod floating around for 2.5 Assist?. I seem to recall seeing a few servers running it and perhaps even playing it here and there over the years but I can't say for certain. I'm also not sure if there is a difference between the mod and 2.8.5, but figured I'd throw that out there.

Offline Alex

Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #6 on: Saturday, May 25, 2024, 21:27:45 PM »
Am I hallucinating or is there a shotgun mod floating around for 2.5 Assist?. I seem to recall seeing a few servers running it and perhaps even playing it here and there over the years but I can't say for certain. I'm also not sure if there is a difference between the mod and 2.8.5, but figured I'd throw that out there.
There is a "shotgun" force class but in reality it's just a mos with cursor.

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Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #7 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 20:10:45 PM »
There is a "shotgun" force class but in reality it's just a mos with cursor.

if i'm not mistaken Swiss Merlin had his poolday server set with shotguns, was fun running around with shotgun lol

Offline lastninja

Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, May 30, 2024, 12:06:00 PM »
I thought the shotguns were as previously mentioned just a slug and was only via a console command, as far as the vanilla original AAv2 game was concerned. And it wasn't very good.

Offline TomHighway64

Re: Convert Shotguns from 285 to 25Assist
« Reply #9 on: Friday, May 31, 2024, 12:43:06 PM »
Am I hallucinating or is there a shotgun mod floating around for 2.5 Assist?. I seem to recall seeing a few servers running it and perhaps even playing it here and there over the years but I can't say for certain. I'm also not sure if there is a difference between the mod and 2.8.5, but figured I'd throw that out there.

Shotguns are available in the Pool Day map.

 

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