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Offline ronski

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 01:45:41 AM »
You just touched the topic I conversated about with Ronski on pm. Have you ever presented _any_ _HARD_ proofs about any of the bans you made?

No.

You banned vossy just because there was too much stir about him on forums and shoutbox. I was ridiculing this vossy guy, you removed my shouts, and then immediately you banned him.

I'm not saying your decision was wrong, it was _correct_, but _please_ stop keep on saying this bs that "you ban only with proofs". You don't present any proofs, so it's like you don't have them. In this particular respect, you are no better the "dictator" p****3 admin.

No better. You are _no_ _better_ than what I did here:
http://aao25.com/forum/ban-appeals-98/bans-without-'hard-proofs'

Again, to make it clear: I think your actions are _correct_. Just don't try to BS me that it's any better than what I did.
To make things clear it was you who discussed about the topic, not me. I was already sleeping ;)

But like I responded you this morning we don't need to have proofs when the ban is not in relation with us. But the proof must exist so all admins sees the reason in similar way and if the one who gets banned wants to ask about reasons he's able to get some.

Offline ronski

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 02:00:30 AM »
All this players got banned there because Ba^La said they were Hackers...but there is no proof !
Serveradmins doesn't have to ban hackers, anti-cheat tools will catch them. So because you are still able to play elsewhere with those FEC accounts, you are not hackers. So there is no point keeping bans on list because of hacking.

Offline Executor^Br

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 07:37:02 AM »
I could, but chances are whoever I talk to isn't going to understand what I'm saying. Can't you go on to their TS to reason with them and purpose this yourself? Or maybe a 3rd party that knows your language?

Killa, they are answering all my texts on the ShoutBox...Corisco speaks english, Ninja, Crazy and Marreco understand enough to know what you want...In the last case, you can make the text you want here and i translate for you EXACLY how you want it.

In the Beggining we were accused to be using Hacks...now they changed the history and we are being accused to offend them...With no proofs !

The'll keep us Banned if you don't take a position about this situation.

You know this is wrong...Just Request them to remove all the bans but keep the Mute toogled on...We don't need/want to talk to any of them in the game....Just play the game ! I guarantee you that this can help.

Just request to remove the ban and mute all of us...If this is the problem they are saying that happened there, this is the solution ! You just have to use your position to finish this problem once for all.

I can translate anything you want !

Thanks,
''Who Dares, Wins.''

Offline Ganja

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 08:29:48 AM »
Or maybe a 3rd party that knows your language?

Possessed still around?

BTW executor, some of the names you mentionned are really bad players but good fragwhores

Offline Executor^Br

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 08:47:08 AM »
Ganja Ganja...When are you going to visit us and give me some Frags ? hehehehehe ! Always welcome, Dude ! :-)
''Who Dares, Wins.''

Offline Executor^Br

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday, November 04, 2015, 09:12:54 AM »
I could, but chances are whoever I talk to isn't going to understand what I'm saying. Can't you go on to their TS to reason with them and purpose this yourself?

Killa, i will do exactly what you requested....making a text in Portuguese and English and Paste on ShoutBox, cause i know they don't come here ! They are answering there.

I'll ask them to respectfully remove our Ban and let us Muted ! That we respect all the history they have in America's Army and we just want to play ! No more problems created for any clan and everything get's solved in peace....Can i do this ?

It is fair enough for both parts...they are accusing for hacking and offensive without proofs and we can't defend ourselves, because there is nothing to fight against !

Thanks,
''Who Dares, Wins.''

Offline Executor^Br

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #36 on: Thursday, November 05, 2015, 07:30:18 AM »
I just would like to know if Killaman or any of you admins guys ara gonna help with this situation or we can quit and i can finally leave the game and finish another clan/server in Brazil ?

I presented a solution here.....Now it's just one of you decide to act and help me to solve this situation.

Can someone help me or should i just go ?

Killa, Bart, Eliz, Teddy, Possessed, Spanky ?

Thanks,
''Who Dares, Wins.''

Offline ronski

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #37 on: Thursday, November 05, 2015, 07:38:02 AM »
I just would like to know if Killaman or any of you admins guys ara gonna help with this situation or we can quit and i can finally leave the game and finish another clan/server in Brazil ?

I presented a solution here.....Now it's just one of you decide to act and help me to solve this situation.

Can someone help me or should i just go ?

Killa, Bart, Eliz, Teddy, Possessed, Spanky ?

Thanks,
How about you send a pm to Posessed and talk with him? Maybe he would be the best negotiator. Let's just hope he'll get online soon.

Offline LPANADES

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #38 on: Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:41:47 PM »
The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.

Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.

To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.

BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?

Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.

Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.

These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.

Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.

Offline ^FoKiNh4.cK

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #39 on: Thursday, November 05, 2015, 18:58:45 PM »
For who does not know am ^ FoKiNh4.cK, one of CK's leaders.

performer,
I know two grievances but I think we have to solve otherwise.
We CK played since 2005 and never had problems with Ba ^ la, the Drake or any other clan AA2.
Our clan ended in AA2 due lack of upgrades and demotivation with the game. We still have some playing AA2 but most are playing the AAPG.
Portant is not true when quoting that exited the AA2 because the Ba ^ it.
Today at the CK I have some former MAB playing in Ba ^ it. They were banned.
We decided chatting and MAbs that did not play in Ba ^ it today play normally.
I know Marreco a long time and because opening to solve the cases of ban up today got Drake as a friend.
We came to the conclusion: If you want to play on a particular server, observe the people and rules of the server.

Offline ronski

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #40 on: Friday, November 06, 2015, 01:09:29 AM »
The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.

Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.

To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.

BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?

Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.

Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.

These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.

Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.
How about that when you muted =]FEC[=Cavalo^ (read: me) immediately after friendly "oi" message? That makes your argument invalid, you are not handling every FEC player as a person, you make your actions because of clan tag.

This is too small community for banning people that way. "We can't tell why they are banned". Is it okay if I'd consider my dog as my religion and he would say I have to ban every player from every server where I can do it, and you just have to deal with it because its forbidden by the law of the religion to talk about it?

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Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #41 on: Friday, November 06, 2015, 01:16:23 AM »
The community and its rules argument is not a valid one in the sense that it was exposed: no reason.
The reason is the community itself and its rules. FEC banned players are disrespecting inside Bala server and inside brazilian communities like Facebook and team speaks.

Some players are old known for all kinds of delinquency and these ones are permanently banned: they do not play and won't, never more.

To say that all FEC are banned is a lie. The players banned are that ones that are personae non gratae from a long time for solid reason. We will not say these reasons here, its is not legal in Brasil and I belive that isn't too in US. Also, it is not a christian behavior. It's enough say they are banned and will stay. These ones had all kinds of opportunity and reincide in their behavior.

BALA has promoted the game, like the game, and will still be playing the game and sustain a server; but; without these players, specially EXECUTOR. This one said that Bala admin, Marreco, is able to dissolve a lot of clans. How could he have so much power? This allegation is absolutely ridiculous. Is Marreco what, Satan itself?

Our friend PFTCHE Monstro, admin of PFTCHE clan, is friend of balas and was involved in this trying to put down Bala honor and server. He told me what absurd this situation was and that PFTCHE clan has not any problem with Bala and seens that will never have any.

Those players will not play in Bala server and they criminal behavior will not prosper, we are sure about it. Bala is one server like others and is administrating AA community with education and good practices by more than ten years long.

These maneuvers will not advance in AA community and in Assist, we have confidence about it. These lies and all intrigues theses guys are promoting here and in a lot of other places show who are them.

Bala Server is a family server that invite all players to play with. But, in name of community and good coexistence this guys are banned and will stay banned. They haven't any more opportunities to change, it is type to stop it.
What is ridiculous is saying someone is banned for a reason that you can't say. It's not like it's a government secret or something.

Not one thing you said here convinced me that members of the FEC clan should be banned on your server.
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Offline Executor^Br

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #42 on: Friday, November 06, 2015, 11:51:14 AM »
Dear Panades, i'll treat ridiculous post you made, like Jason, by parts, because you came here to say so many Bullshit that impressed me ! With all the respect you deserve, off course !  :)

First: You don't know me and i NEVER talked or played with you ! You have no idea of what is happening, you know why ? Because you have been idlle for this game for more then 6 Months. Like your tracker can show us ! http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/635675/..%5EBala%5E..PANADES..%5E/

So you, have no idea of what is happening, maybe someone gave you a text and you just translated it ! No Problem !

Second: How would you feel, if you were banned for the only Brazilian active server with no proof and no chance to defend yourself...You would get crazy, as we became ! I just reactivated the old Clan FEC, because all the Banned players asked me to because they needed help to try to solve this situation as a team...Not like you or the rest of the ''Random'' players are doing here....I am the LEADER of my clan, and i have BALLS to solve any prolem related to it while it's under my comand...My players are banned and not posting here or in the shoutbox, because they trust me and they know i can solve or at least try to help without LIES....Like you are doing !

Third: Persona non grata ? Not legal in Brazil and US ? Christian Behavior ?------WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING DUDE ? STOP IT !  :D

The fisrt motive to the Ban was that we Hack...After that, was abusive language, Legal Problems and now Christian Behavior ? WHAAAAAT ?

Fourth: Ba^La Promoting the game ? How ? If iam recruiting BANNED players...i am bringing back players that were playing other games, like AAPG...BF4...CS GO.....I Made a lot of friends in almost 10 years in this game....and the actions you see here are my proofs...26 Players waiting for help, being patience, trusting me.

The power ''Marreco'' has at this moment, is the BAN power for Start Up clans...Marreco influded directly (kick and ban) in the end of clan {i} and {M.A.B}.....The same way is happening with us and i can bring the old players here if you want to tell to you Teddy, the same history i am telling...The leader of {i}, Branco left this version of the game and extingued his clan, because of the same problems i am facing...Some of the old players, Lucas Muller, TAG and others, are playing with me, and for the second time in less then 6 months, facing the same problem ! Satan i don't know, but if he really exists, he would be jealous to see how much mess and lies can a guy do. I don't have to say names, you know who !

It's really simple to kill a Clan...If you have few players in the game, and there is a clan in bigger number and with server, you just have to ban the tag..Doing that the players will quit and the clan will die... Resuming...you have the only Brazilian server again and you can DICTATE the rules and who can PLAY or NOT ! As i said, Simple ! That Hard to Understand, Panades ?

Fifth: CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR ? This is a really SERIOUS INDICTMENT for you to say here ! I want NAMES...Give me the name of the Person you are Charging here to be a CRIMINAL and i can search for information MYSELF and come here exposing you are telling LIES again ! Don't charge people of something you can't proof !

I don't want and will not include names of other clans here, cause this is a problem between us, but Monstro and Fokinha know exactly how does he work and how he's ABUSIVE ACTIONS are Destroying the game in Brazil...Now when i ask for another player to come back to AA2, the first thing they ask me is: WHAT FOR ? TO BE BANNED ? :-)

Mr. Teddy...the only reason my players got banned from Ba^La server is:

They don't kill there...They Destroy !

Check this =]FEC[= players last sessions that i will continue:

=]FEC[=^[e]rror.! (First and Second Accounts)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/801491/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3D%5E%5Be%5Drror.%21/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/773594/%27veterano%21./

=]FEC[=Estev4m'
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/853553/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DEstev4m%27/

=]FEC[=Hurley; (First and Second Accounts)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/828616/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DHurley%3B/
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803374/blink.182/

=]FEC[=MazoKu^
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/601941/Husaberg_300/

The reason for this HOLE Bans is just because they Kill TOO MUCH ! Is it enough motive to ban ?

I know that i am Banned only because the fact that i am the LEADER of =]FEC[=...that's the motive ! You haven't and CAN'T Proof nothing to keep me Banned here !

If the Bans happened because of me being a Persona non Grata  :D, legal problems in Brazil and USA, the Church and the Christian faith (that was awesome) and problems created for some players...Can you explain me why all this accounts are banned ?


http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740959/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPirado%3B%29%5E/ (Old player recruited from BF4)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/740582/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPiradinhO%5E/ (Old player recruited from BF4)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/803430/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DDarko%252B/ (Banned Player after join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/822384/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DT_A_G%5E/ (Ex '''' player banned after join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/742002/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DYAMAHA/ (Banned Player after Join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/805545/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DPsictico%252B%252B/ (Banned player after JoinFEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/693727/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DExxon%5E/ (Banned player after Join FEC)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/769863/%3D%5DFEC%5B%3DAdriana%5E/ (Inative Woman Player since 2008 that is Banned after Join FEC on 10/10/2015, as Her tracker can show)
http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/794453/ (Me...Banned for decide not to live under a person's orders and Make this game Better) !

If Ba^La is a Family of RESPECTED players that follow the Brazilian Law, trust and Believe in God and bla bla bla....WHY SO MANY LIES ? It's a game ! Every time that one of you come here with a new lie, get's worst for you all ! Stop doing that ! You are just being UNFAIR with the rest of the players.

Teddy and all the other admins responsible here...i want to let something clear here:

I NEVER HAD any intention to retrieve the Honor of them service or put them offline...NEVER...In my point of view, this would be as BAD as the banning problem we are facing here.

The situation i proposed is to take the bans out and let all the players play MUTED...How could they offend someone in a server being Muted ?

I trust your administration is good enough to solve this problem wisely...I lost a lot of time here, and all of you too. But the situation can't be more clear then it is.

You just guys have to REQUEST them to take the Bans out ! Now if they decide to don't accept an order from the admins of the game, it's a new problem for you to take an action. But Ba^La is a clan with guys who follow the rules...I am sure they will accept it ! They can't keep us Banned with this Kind of accusation, and you all know that ! If some kind of Justice exist here in this game and you admins are responsible for it, something MUST to be done !

I love this game and want to see more and more players each day...I am Here to expose FACTS...Not things created from my imagination...Help me to help the game.

And Panades, after six months without playing the game, you come here and say all this random bullshit...You could finish your week without that, Dude !

Cordially,

=]FEC[=Executor^
''Who Dares, Wins.''

Offline Ganja

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #43 on: Friday, November 06, 2015, 12:32:47 PM »
Nice post. Things are very clear.

I find it very funny that Marreco calls people hacker, while he was banned for macro usage in the past (as was Estevam)

Offline Estevam

Re: All ban appeals from FEC
« Reply #44 on: Friday, November 06, 2015, 12:58:43 PM »
Yeah, my first account has unfortunately been banned by macro. :(
What but the Ba^La's do not understand is that in eight years of game I learned to play almost all maps.

http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/708503/.uC-Estev4m%21%3B/
« Last Edit: Friday, November 06, 2015, 13:12:19 PM by Estevam »

 

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