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Where were you 4 years ago to tell me this?

Seriously though, I only aimed high because of reception. If I could quantify interest in the form of weights on a scale versus the actual play time, you would see that it's highly imbalanced. There has been so many "yea that's cool dude" and "omg custom maps, sweet!" kind of comments. People seem to think it's a good idea and that's why I invested time but when it comes down to it, those enthusiastic people are off playing Urban Assault. It's either a massive troll or a slap in the face, I'm still not sure which.

Neither I think. Judging a map and (frequent) playing it are different worlds. I really see no contradiction in that people liked your maps when looking at them but didn't play it. Because you don't play the map alone just because it's fine, you play it because there are servers with that map full of people, because you are accustomed to it, and know it, etc. It's just about the momentum, which the standard map have, and it's almost impossible to beat them with anything created, no matter how brilliant - people are just used to older maps.

Having said that, I was really impressed by the skill you guys have with editing/creating maps. And I agree with you here: I would also be pissed off, if I would create those maps and people wouldn't play it :-D.

I've been in full mAAp servers before, there just needs to be a bit of a jump start to get people to join.

Exactly. Jump starting the server is the whole magic. Damn, I sometimes can't even play on my favourite hosp, because those damn retards on urban/pipeline/whatever :-DDD.

Lemme know if you need beta testers for your Assaultcube-based game

First of all, huge thanks to all the people, current and the former, who keep this site and Assist running and make it possible to us to play the game we love.

--- It's the community that is narrow-minded and not willing to try new things.

This is something that I don't understand really. If people are not interested in something or they do something else that you guys want, they are always narrow-minded, they don't appreciate what have been done, they are bitching etc. When people outside of the dev crew suggest something or ask if something could be done different way, which can be put in words in so many different ways, it's always bitching about things and not appreciating what has been done before. You seriously can't except the feedback to be in correct hamburger form: say something good, then the negative thing(s) and end with something good again.

It sure feels like a kick to the balls when things are not going as you have wished and hoped, and to realize that you have wasted your time trying to get to your goal without possible reaching it, but who's fault it really is?

Once again, I really appreciate the things you guys have done by far and I really hope the forums and Assist keep running. I'm sure there are lots of people that have been and still are willing to help any way they can, I included. As you have "wasted" your time, there are people who are willing to do the same - if it's not called bitching.

I've been called names for wanting to play maps other than Pipe/WC/IC/UA

I don't think you are understanding the point. If they are too stuck in their old ways (playing maps like pipeline or Urban Assault) and they're not willing to try new things, that's being narrow minded. It has nothing to do with whether they like the new thing or not, but whether they're willing to try and accept the new thing. This is a topic we never really discussed. If the players tried mAAp maps and didn't like them, then we can't call them narrow minded. Also, there is a difference between suggesting changes and complaining about the current setup saying we need changes. I will say that Spanky seemed a little defensive to the suggestions, but really he's had to deal with a lot of people complain about his hard work he did for free.

I completely understand that point of view, but I still wouldn't call ppl narrow-minded if they don't try something new or different. If I don't ever try high heels instead of my precious army boots, am I narrow-minded? I'm pretty sure that people have accepted that there are new maps and some even enjoy playing them. You can't expect everyone do the same. People need time to explore, for some the whole mAAp thing is a completely new thing.

As I said about bitching, the feedback, there are so many ways to put things in words. Some people tend to say: "This fucking map thing sucks" when others like to be more clear and say: "Hey, nice job, but could this and this be done that way?". Way too often both ways are called bitching - at least it feels so if there's something negative in it. It's quite difficult to see the right feeling behind the lines sometimes without tons of little yellow heads.

I don't deny that there hasn't been any "bitching", but if we think how many people do play and have played overall, the amount of complains is really small. You just have to leave the shit behind and move on when you know what you're doing. As in most cases, usually the negative things pop up first and the good words are not said.

But that is the very definition of being narrow minded. An unwillingness to try new things.

And the whole point is, people get called narrow-minded if they don't try something new right away, which has been the case all the time. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't try something new in some point. Even I may try the high heels some day although I'm not interested to try them this year. Give people time before judging.