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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #90 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 14:07:42 PM »
so?

so you think you have than more rights? or what you wanna say

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #91 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 14:29:35 PM »
so you think you have than more rights? or what you wanna say

I don't have more rights :D

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #92 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 15:03:59 PM »
hi. i registered here, cause i  also wanna say my opinion.
i think since the 203 on hospital is gone, there are more campers. now on every corner they camp. when we had the 203 they couldnt camp on those positions. now they are everywhere. on the roof there are minimum 3 ppl now roofbuging like hell. for me this is no fun anymore. when hospital stays like that i leave this map and change in the future to pipeline sf. this is what i think. ty for listening. hooah

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #93 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 16:02:50 PM »
We can fix the roof bug and camping spots. Help us improve the map and change the stale 10 year old gameplay.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #94 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 16:17:37 PM »
We can fix the roof bug and camping spots. Help us improve the map and change the stale 10 year old gameplay.

Wow are you serious in changing gameplay? :) I would give suggestions if you are

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #95 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 16:35:12 PM »
I think the greatest feature and hinderance of Assist has been that the gameplay hasn't changed.

I feel like a lot of people have come back to find that everything's the same, the game they enjoyed is alive. Then there's people that come back and find the same thing but with a negative twist; it's stale, boring and predictable. Now that training is gone, I think that stale gameplay and map whores are the greatest threat to this project's success and growth. I've said many times, we should go through each and every one of the maps and refine them. Fix problems, move things around, eliminate glitches, add player slots and more. A lot of the official maps are fantastically built so the core wouldn't change but the tactics would.

Course, this is just my opinion, I'm a bitter admin whose out of touch with the playerbase and game. A lot of people will hate and rage for thinking this way but I ask this; do you have a better idea?
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #96 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 16:44:14 PM »
I think the greatest feature and hinderance of Assist has been that the gameplay hasn't changed.

I feel like a lot of people have come back to find that everything's the same, the game they enjoyed is alive. Then there's people that come back and find the same thing but with a negative twist; it's stale, boring and predictable. Now that training is gone, I think that stale gameplay and map whores are the greatest threat to this project's success and growth. I've said many times, we should go through each and every one of the maps and refine them. Fix problems, move things around, eliminate glitches, add player slots and more. A lot of the official maps are fantastically built so the core wouldn't change but the tactics would.

Course, this is just my opinion, I'm a bitter admin whose out of touch with the playerbase and game. A lot of people will hate and rage for thinking this way but I ask this; do you have a better idea?

I was supporting you for years now, you seem the only admin to think this way, changing gameplay would bring new tactics and I fully support you in this case, I have said this many times that the game has been always the same despite new client release, SAI, uniforms.

The gameplay has never been changed in this game, the game is the same and it really becomes boring, and you are 100% correct that map whores who used to play like they played many years ago will rage and is the biggest threat to the game because that's the players that come complain after changes. Thats what happened with 203, anything you try change in the game you get thrown shit back, and basically those players are map whores wwho used to the same tactics, don't want to offend anyone but the gameplay hasn't been changed since disabling 203 which is a very small feature.

And you guys shouldn't be scared of them, the project needs dramatic changes and be ready to receive shit from these kind of map whores, just saying that AA client has changed but the game hasn't changed for years since previous devs left this version.

How many more years will it pass to understand that the threat has always been map whores like spanky said, its just a question of time. :)

P.S Look at some of the comments, they say lets keep original maps the same ( meaning) lets play the same map as it was used to be for years. ) for me thats no logic when it becomes boring, especially for new players. When this game won't have anymore veterans or have only a few left, who will play the game? ask this question :) to me the new players, looking at other games, AA is nothing compared to them, its oldschool classic but changes are always nice and this game has been missing gameplay changes for years because I understand receiving shit form map whores is hard to take as a project runner :) I think all admins should sit at one table and discuss this case as priority to move this game further, just my couple cents :)

Starting in renovating all maps, layout, spots of the map, objectives, make some more teamwork involved, this kind of stuff, its a long project but worth a shot :)
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #97 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 17:48:58 PM »
How was Hospital SE(2.8.5) compared the normal version?

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #98 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 18:01:35 PM »
All I remember is, it had a chopper on the helipad where you had to extract. Plus the civilians were moving (which was bugged as hell).
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #99 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 18:34:11 PM »
when all of you idiots (both admins + players) will understand one fact:

adding new contents to game is _not_ bad
what _is_ bad is forcing it down the throats of every player


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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #100 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 18:48:16 PM »
For me playing without 203 is better . Ambush do more then with 203 and its good becasue to many times escort won . But in my opinion change gameplay for example close roof or change spots ruin this map . Disable 203 but nothing more

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #101 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 20:15:14 PM »
In my opinion, I think he need not move the existing maps in AA2, would create new maps ...
Based on old maps, For Example .. Why not create a new SFHospital? Could create some new maps ...
To cheer the crowd and give a hectic in AA2

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #102 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 20:15:47 PM »
and also get rid of battletracker so people like u stop playing for stupid frag rate on a 10 year old game

just saying enjoy the dam game stop worrying about stupid frag rate

sadly true. People won't even do objectives anymore. I've seen VIP's just hiding in a corner for entire rounds in order to save their fragrate. But on the other hand without tracker, a lot of people would just quit (whoever only the unworthy players would)

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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #103 on: Monday, October 06, 2014, 21:08:19 PM »
when all of you idiots (both admins + players) will understand one fact:

adding new contents to game is _not_ bad
what _is_ bad is forcing it down the throats of every player

In my opinion, I think he need not move the existing maps in AA2, would create new maps ...
Based on old maps, For Example .. Why not create a new SFHospital? Could create some new maps ...
To cheer the crowd and give a hectic in AA2

Both of you fail to understand that if new maps are added and the old ones are untouched, nobody plays the new maps. There's plenty great mAAp maps and even official 2.8.5 maps. Nobody plays them because it's not SF Hospital or Pipeline or Bridge. You HAVE to force players to change, they don't do it willingly. The only way to force is by changing the maps that they DO play. I'm disappointed that you don't understand that Pit.
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Re: The 203 disabled on hospital.
« Reply #104 on: Tuesday, October 07, 2014, 01:40:16 AM »
All I remember is, it had a chopper on the helipad where you had to extract. Plus the civilians were moving (which was bugged as hell).
Correct, it was buggy, and not really needed.

 

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