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Offline ~=W!CK!D=~

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 18:52:48 PM »
I am very curious who hasn't hacked any kind of game or wanted to hack it for fun or to gain advantage. I would like to use this word a lot here.

I'm sure alot here haven't, for what????? i mean really why pay for it when you can play the game and get better in due time, stupid to  use some stupid ass kiddie cheat to gain advantage, whooo hoo way to go

Offline Alex

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 19:10:58 PM »
Few expressed remorse, did you give them a second chance? I guess the answer is no.
There was one occasion back when this all started where we did(although I hated the idea) but otherwise, no. Remorse can easily be faked. They know the consequences of hacking if caught when they started. I will never believe that hackers deserve a second chance.

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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 22:47:44 PM »
In regards to my English...I'm Portuguese. I was self-taught English through a lot of philosophical reading and writing. Through error and trial. Although I am not as hard to understand when I speak simply due to the fact that most of what is spoken is not the slightest as complex and pragmatically methodic as what is addressed through words nowadays. The fact that I ended up writing my own dissertation and fine-tune my search for fairness in both speech and presentation also made it hard to believe that simple = sufficient --partially because sufficiency itself is none at all a simple matter.

But do bear in mind that expression is tenacious. I sometimes find it exquisitely hard to remotely understand people who simply do not give two shits about their grammar and/or phrase structure...but at least I put some real effort towards understanding their points of relevance. If it isn't at all understandable then I'll simply ask that they attempt at explaining/expressing their opinions again, this time with a bit of more attention to wording and the likes.

Bite me. This all makes little to no-sense to me.


On-Topic:
ELiZ hit the nail. Just think of the following hypothesis:

1st-time Hacking - $100
2nd-time Hacking - $200
AutoHotKey Hacking - $300
3rd-time Hacking - $400
'I'm Playing At My Brother's Computer Excuse' Hacking - $500

Where does it end?! The idea itself is doomed to fail from the start-up. Pragmatically thinking, who do you believe would be willing to pay --even if we brought the fines down to $10 -- to gain the ability to play in a game they've once played legitimately and were either bad players or simply didn't enjoy the game enough as it is that they felt the need to download, pay for and use hacks? The whole concept around the principle of monetary exchange as an applicable punishment is surreal and burlesque.

Still en-vise (for those who are not familiar with this word, the literally meaning of en-vise is: in-vision-of;-- applicable and addressed wherein describing a(n) set of conceptual and integral actions to be taken keeping in interest the conclusive and objective solution of any one subject of interest --see? Much easier to just type in en-vise instead) of the aforementioned suggested solutions to this subject, I believe it hard to conceive that a work-around around the '$10 For A Free Hacker!" (I just came up with this Campaign name, too) would be keeping the list of hackers who have paid to play again private and/or accessible only by Administrators. We'd be going backwards. We'd get called out for by the community complaining about our level of secrecy...and that we're all villains trying to take AA away from you (irony, irony is such a long-hearted beauty!)...and so on so forth.

No. I believe in honesty and free knowledge. The community should know what's going on and what isn't.

This is why I insist: Think your posts through before clicking on that shiny button at the bottom-right of your web-page that says "Post". Think them through not only on a grammar-level but on a idea-level too. This will help the community and subsequently Assist grow better lengths.


P.S:. Sorry for my complex English. If need be, Google Translate is available.


/Dan
« Last Edit: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 23:13:11 PM by Mikawe »
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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 22:49:00 PM »
I like the number of zeroes after the dollar sign. Tell me more about where I can get in on this.
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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 23:04:03 PM »

Worry not. I'll start talking more like "OMGZ, u so own. Wut? LOLRMLAOF@£$%^&£*" if that makes it easier for the community.

That's not what he was talking about and you fucking know it. There's no need to act like a dick. You use a lot of words and phrases that are not commonplace for most people.  Also, your sentences are often very long. This can be very confusing for those that do not speak English very well. There's no need to be condescending, he was just trying to help. You're an admin of a forum that hosts a very global community. You need to use simpler sentences and words so everyone can understand you. Surely you can do that.

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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #50 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 01:17:47 AM »
That's not what he was talking about and you fucking know it. There's no need to act like a dick. You use a lot of words and phrases that are not commonplace for most people.  Also, your sentences are often very long. This can be very confusing for those that do not speak English very well. There's no need to be condescending, he was just trying to help. You're an admin of a forum that hosts a very global community. You need to use simpler sentences and words so everyone can understand you. Surely you can do that.
I agree.
While I don't really have a problem understanding what you're writing, others might.

And to be honest, the way you type here looks like you're trying too hard (even if you're not). It looks to me as if you're trying to look better/more educated than other (even thought this is probably not what you're going for).

And in your long post, you state it's easier to write en-vise instead of the explanation, but don't you think having to write both takes even longer?
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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #51 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 02:15:05 AM »
In the way you are writing, is how I have to write my thesis at university (and sometiems it is not needed to talk THAT professional). It is not needed to talk like that in a forum, as I agree with most here.

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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #52 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 06:27:31 AM »
In regards to my English...I'm Portuguese. I was self-taught English through a lot of philosophical reading and writing. Through error and trial. Although I am not as hard to understand when I speak simply due to the fact that most of what is spoken is not the slightest as complex and pragmatically methodic as what is addressed through words nowadays. The fact that I ended up writing my own dissertation and fine-tune my search for fairness in both speech and presentation also made it hard to believe that simple = sufficient --partially because sufficiency itself is none at all a simple matter.
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To me, you are a regular snob...  :poorguy:

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P.S:. Sorry for my complex English. If need be, Google Translate is available.
Intelligent people can adapt to every conversation (without forcing anyone to align to their level...).

... or just maybe, yet another kid with too big ambitions to their capabilities ...
« Last Edit: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 06:30:21 AM by NoBigDeal »
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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #53 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 07:15:53 AM »
To me, you are a regular snob...  :poorguy:
Intelligent people can adapt to every conversation (without forcing anyone to align to their level...).

... or just maybe, yet another kid with too big ambitions to their capabilities ...

Assumptions...anyway, even if he's using some uncommon words he's doing a better job at expressing himself than most of the people here (it's obvious he's taking more time to do that, most of the people just don't care about). If people complain about posts length it must be cause they're used to phone text messages or one~two liners replies.
« Last Edit: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 12:28:39 PM by Deer_k »

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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #54 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 07:26:20 AM »
I can somewhat relate to the complaints about the usage of big words even though I have no difficulty understanding any of it. Most european people on here have either a high school level of English, or even lower than that due to a lack of English in their schooling. Then there are people like e.g. Bart who have to use a more professional type of English due to their higher education. I can't imagine it being too much to ask for to try to watch out a bit with the words you use, because undoubtably you can acknowledge that certain words aren't commonly used in ordinary everyday conversations. For example, I try to make no grammar mistakes while typing little paragraphs like this, but I won't go over it a few times to make sure there are no little errors in it (hell, I'm sure I've made quite a lot already), like I would do for my essays and such. I also agree with NoBigDeal, intelligent people can change their way of speaking to a manner that anybody can understand, when necessary of course.

Offline -[unR]BENDAWICH

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #55 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:25:14 PM »
I LIEK CATZ

Joking aside, i take to typing on the internet to being akin to speaking on ts/vent. My accent is strong so i slow down my words and try to speak more pronounced, so i can be understood. With typing i know people whose mother tongue isnt english may have a hard time understanding certain words.
« Last Edit: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:47:36 PM by -[unR]BENDAWICH »

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Re: Suggestions
« Reply #56 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:46:26 PM »
Sorry, I was working and couldn't replay any faster.

On Topic:
Okay, lets forget this option of giving hackers a second chance and lets forget about the hackers paying to play the game again. Lets go into different direction of all this how to earn money for assist. If you don't accept ''Hackers paying'' conclusion then I see only one way to get money from people who is playing. To begin with I see only one option which is paying assist to run a server. No more companies as low ping servers, you buy them from assist and assist runs them. I don't think its fair when other companies use assist to gain money when assist itself could earn money rather helping other companies. It will take more space, more bandwidth but this is the only choice to earn money because the game is free and you won't earn any donational money as you all ask. I saw already a few sentences from admins on this forum, yet they pay for cheats but not assist. Well who would donate when you work on your own free time and for a free game nobody will ever pay, only a few people may once. If you don't agree with this option, I have then an empty head towards earning money, you don't agree stop then moaning because there aren't many options unless the game is payable to play, but with small community and small player base no one will be willing to pay.

MIKAWE, I don't attack you and never did. For this kind of forum you don't need high graduate English. I understand, you may use it in daily life but not on the gaming forum where community is so small. All I did was trying to help you and the rest, understand the consequences of others not understanding your writing and words you put. I agree on most of the replays from other users. It seems like you're trying too hard, your words are intelligent and smart which makes you smart. I am talking about others, I am not selfish and I think about others too. I saw this problem and chucked this out. I know you can do better, use simple words like I do. I know, this forum is a free language, you write how you want but for others to understand you, you need less inelegance words and sentences. Way too long sentences. There are quite a lot foreigners on this forum that has bad English, I was checking older posts and saw many saying i don't speak English good. Just saying, if you can please use simpler language, if you can't well, nobody then can only yourself.

To sum up:
All I do, is trying to help ''Assist''. I try to help them and others such as giving second chance for hackers and by earning money but I see no point anymore in arguing with this as it's a waste of time and all it finds is excuses and disadvantages against my posts. Apparently there are more ''disadvantages'' than ''advantages''. I only gave up on giving hackers a second chance but lets continue this free speech discussion about other ways of earning money. I just fell angered that ''ASSIST'' does nothing really to earn money. I think its a waste of time if you don't get anything, who ever would waste his life and time for a free game that has a small player base and a small community. Working on their free time is just sad. Yes, you make others happy and proud of you, but is this going to take you guys anywhere? However you update the game, it is going the same, it may attract a few faces but that's all. But i lose no hope for this project to continue on the right track, there are a few things that needs to be fixed before continuing something.

I like ''Assist'', I do like now users on this forum. I like assist team/staff on how they produce themselves and the game. All I ask is to think carefully, agree with majority and always have more options than one and the most important, work as a team and always pull your hand for a help.
« Last Edit: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:55:24 PM by ArmyAntiCheat »

Offline ELiZ

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #57 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 13:53:24 PM »
I've never seen that financial side of 25Assist, others has taken care of that aspect, so I cant say if money is an issue or not. I don't expect to get payed to do what I do, but I've never been someone to say no thx to some cash....

We've talked internally in the past about getting some kind of Donators Perks, to get some more donations to the project.
For instance, being able to choose ingame looks(Face) to other players

Here is a mockup I did at the time
[youtube]O3cvdIUFcCY[/youtube]


Offline ArmyAntiCheat

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #58 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 14:03:25 PM »
I've never seen that financial side of 25Assist, others has taken care of that aspect, so I cant say if money is an issue or not. I don't expect to get payed to do what I do, but I've never been someone to say no thx to some cash....

We've talked internally in the past about getting some kind of Donators Perks, to get some more donations to the project.
For instance, being able to choose ingame looks(Face) to other players

Here is a mockup I did at the time
[youtube]O3cvdIUFcCY[/youtube]

I don't think this small feature would do. Maybe a full como design will. But Eliz, are you okay for other companies to earn money where you work for free on your own time? I have no idea if it's a problem but in older posts of Johnny I saw quite a lot. Saw older posts for asking to donate by sergio. I just fell it is not right not to earn money. AA versions had this but it was free feature Eliz, it might be against the people and really it isn't any kind of cool stuff for others to donate.
« Last Edit: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 14:04:56 PM by ArmyAntiCheat »

Offline Ganja

Re: Suggestions
« Reply #59 on: Thursday, November 14, 2013, 14:07:09 PM »
I've never seen that financial side of 25Assist, others has taken care of that aspect, so I cant say if money is an issue or not. I don't expect to get payed to do what I do, but I've never been someone to say no thx to some cash....

We've talked internally in the past about getting some kind of Donators Perks, to get some more donations to the project.
For instance, being able to choose ingame looks(Face) to other players

Here is a mockup I did at the time
[youtube]O3cvdIUFcCY[/youtube]

Not sure if i'm understanding you correctly, but if it is what I think, like BF heroes style, where u can pay to customize yr guy, i don't feel like its a good idea

 

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