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Change RPG And possible the snipers We did play it now and its not realy good

YES
75 (71.4%)
No
17 (16.2%)
Suggestion  Make RPG  to pso  And the sniper to Vintores
13 (12.4%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: Sunday, October 16, 2016, 15:27:11 PM

Author Topic: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist  (Read 41544 times)

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Offline ronski

Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 14:35:53 PM »
It seems to be working very well and the amount of warnings cant definitely be reduced, five is just perfect - like in any other violation warning. How about the punkbuster ban time, is there any way to change it from one hour to 5 or 15 minutes for example, or is it another hard coded value?

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 17:13:45 PM »
It seems to be working very well and the amount of warnings cant definitely be reduced, five is just perfect - like in any other violation warning. How about the punkbuster ban time, is there any way to change it from one hour to 5 or 15 minutes for example, or is it another hard coded value?
I have no idea where that might be located but all hard-coded values can be changed to an .ini setting.
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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 18:43:19 PM »
Its weard hey that clans must puth in a mod ore a change by closing slots in server to stop rpg. so far I see in this poll people shout clearly that rpg is not ther wish. Hope the reaction to those voters will be correct.  and we not only must look trough a glass plate waiting till something happened.   21-09-2016  I see 26 for and 6 aganst
Looks like a honest poll this time.  ( FEELINGS)  :censored:
 

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 18:44:33 PM »
I have no idea where that might be located but all hard-coded values can be changed to an .ini setting.
Do you mean that there's no option for it yet, but it could be made to be possible that you could kind of introduce a variable and value for it at ini file and use that as global variable inside the function? Or is it something server based custom configuration where serveradmin would edit uscript file to change the value from hardcoded to variable?

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 18:54:13 PM »
Its weard hey that clans must puth in a mod ore a change by closing slots in server to stop rpg. so far I see in this poll people shout clearly that rpg is not ther wish. Hope the reaction to those voters will be correct.  and we not only must look trough a glass plate waiting till something happened.   21-09-2016  I see 26 for and 6 aganst
Looks like a honest poll this time.  ( FEELINGS)  :censored:
So back in the day when the end result was opposite and RPG was added - more people voted than in any of following polls - it wasn't a honest poll? Because you're not happy with the voted result it doesn't make your poll more honest than the first one. There's the diffference that the other was official poll where you were able to cast your vote for weeks or couple of months and this one is yet another poll made by someone who wants to get rid of it and it's hasnt been around long enough to be able to read any kind of conclusions out of it

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2016, 19:47:53 PM »
Do you mean that there's no option for it yet, but it could be made to be possible that you could kind of introduce a variable and value for it at ini file and use that as global variable inside the function? Or is it something server based custom configuration where serveradmin would edit uscript file to change the value from hardcoded to variable?
You're correct in your first thought.
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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 02:07:30 AM »
You're correct in your first thought.
"why aren't you coding it already"

cool if we're about to have the feature available some day :) would it affect on other violation shortbans such as excessive prone shooting etc as well or do they have their own functions to execute the ban?

btw:
I was wondering about that but I couldn't find any example in the code of exactly what the 203 protection does. If it just looks for 203 or all projectiles. I tried it on a server (all 3 protections) and ended up with no protection. Weird.
I tried them as well when the subject was on discuss previous time, ended up with no protection. Unlike earlier, this time I joined the server without admin privileges and found out it really works. I hope there simply was something wrong in my configs back then, better than the protection would affect only on players with no admin privileges. I'll give it a try today to confirm it has no privilege bug which would cause unfair situation in use

This has been voted on b4 to have it removed,  but assist decided not to make that change after the vote was done
With the spam protection in place  no need to get rid of it
I think it works very well now other than people crying about being ban for it lol
Guess u need that spam protection in many languages since they don't understand ENGLISH
The way I see it, early spam was the major problem with the big–ass gun. It's interesting to see if spam protection will change the concern around the RPG. Of course people got used to it that you're able to spam with it and it must be confusing when it's not allowed anymore from all of a sudden. Let's add server message to inform about the rule, that for now five early spam warnings will result you a one hour ban automatically. We could also reduce protection time from 30seconds to 20seconds, it's enough for people to take cover from spam

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 02:36:02 AM »
"why aren't you coding it already"

cool if we're about to have the feature available some day :) would it affect on other violation shortbans such as excessive prone shooting etc as well or do they have their own functions to execute the ban?
As far as I know (at least with the current setup), the counter is universal.
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 04:08:51 AM »
tested it out and it was no privilege bug, you get warnings if you fire during determined period no matter do you have admin rights or not.

Noticed as well that once you enable spam protection at your server it will notify automatically every player who will join the server about the setting, once you join, the server will inform you about the setting and the time how long you have to hold your ROE trigger. This notification is seen at console right after the row where your joining information is standing.

IGC has now server message pointing updated rule out, hopefully now the rule is seen. Realised again how important it is to use servermessage.cfg with correct encoding, needed to restart the server like ten times to get it working right lol

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 12:50:50 PM »

IGC has now server message pointing updated rule out, hopefully now the rule is seen. Realised again how important it is to use servermessage.cfg with correct encoding, needed to restart the server like ten times to get it working right lol
Trial and error much? :P

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 13:02:46 PM »
do you atleast ADMIN PB_SV_RESTART?
OR
do you atleast ADMIN PB_SV_TASKEMPTY?
do you atleast ADMIN PB_SV_LOAD ServerMessage.cfg?

« Last Edit: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 13:05:43 PM by Possessed »
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Offline ronski

Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2016, 13:24:53 PM »
nah, I needed to edit it by hand at my computer because webedit will mess up the encoding, then after deleting and uploading new version of it I just restarted the server, didn't know you could refresh the file with command :)

Offline Timbuctoo

Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, September 27, 2016, 05:43:29 AM »
Balance noobs, balance.
All this was debated many many years ago and it all comes down to balance,
The way to counter the rpg spam was .......the 203,
The way to counter the 203 spam was to time aim 203's to known hot spots and/or avoid/go another route.
There was BALANCE, and the ONLY people that moaned and whined....were the ppl that lacked the intelligence to figure this out for themselves in the lead up to 203's being banished.
Everything on this map was as it was for a perfect reason, BALANCE.
You take something out, something has to give somewhere else, and now you noobs are dicing with nature and never finding that balance....
As a result the map right now is not as enjoyable as it once was, we like to play with guns, all types of damn guns, we like to blow shit up, that's why we're here!
And you're taking things OUT of the game....to serve what purpose?
To improve YOUR chances of winning? Truth be known then yes exactly that.
Certainly not to IMPROVE the map, the map was perfect, 203's or rpg's didn't scare everybody away from a decade ago when we had more than a dozen hospital maps up and running at any given time, no it wasn't that.....
Stop screwing around with nature, put the map back to the way it SHOULD be, as it was before you started messing with it, BALANCE.
Your lacking the ability to improve under the ORIGINAL circumstances that sf hospital brings, is YOUR problem, not the rpg and not the 203. stop blaming the tools you look like bad workmen.
If you want to do the right thing, for the map, for the ppl that play the map, and maybe give it some hope of retaining NEW players whenever they stumble across it,
Then put everything back, give them toys to play with that's why they're here after all right!
Not getting lumbered with an ak and 2 flashes because they're too low honor to get anything else.
Put some grenades in there too, let's start blowing shit up if you MUST screw with nature,
This isn't real life military, I've been there done that got the t-shirt, this is GAMING, get the fucking toys out and lets play not bitch and whine and take things OUT because we suck so hard we can't adapt.
YOU,......WE are the few, ........The MANY....are out there playing other games with TOYS, lots and lots of toys, they're not going to be swapping bf2 for aaops to get their asses pre-fired as soon as they run round corners anytime soon.
Stop manipulating the game, put it back to the way it was, the way it was meant to be, the way that made it the most popular map in the game and for a reason.
Noobs.

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #28 on: Friday, October 14, 2016, 18:00:37 PM »
Only 1 day to go !!,  attention assist would be nice to make thinks ready if ther is sombuddy that reacting to I think a serius vote that telling this game need changes, In this case its Hospital that needs to make a change to the good way of game fun and good play grownd the  vote is as you see  82 aganst rpg and 14 that like this gameplay.
Worst case ther is no reaction ad all to the players , sec. change no change becose they will say ther was a vote in the past and we can`t change every time all maps.
3e way is they do a little change and I think allot players are happy and thats were we are here for ,make a change and try to get the best, rpg was not the best like you did see. 2.5 stand up its good gameing. 

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Re: RPG is not fun in Hospital take it out Wake up Assist
« Reply #29 on: Friday, October 14, 2016, 20:08:46 PM »


Not sure what this actually means though. The votes have always been weird IMO
« Last Edit: Saturday, October 15, 2016, 10:02:43 AM by Ganja »

 

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