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Offline Playtronics

I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« on: Sunday, May 18, 2025, 14:03:39 PM »
I want to know which Assist admins are currently running the forums. I was banned without warning or notification, and without a cause. To say I am livid is to say the least.

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #1 on: Monday, May 19, 2025, 04:40:47 AM »
You were banned from what? The shoutbox? The forums? The game?

I don't see a record of any of those.
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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 00:35:36 AM »
Banned from the shoutbox without explanation at all.

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 03:18:12 AM »
I don't know whether or when you were banned from shoutbox. All I could see is that shortly before you posted this thread you had - in fact - posted on the shoutbox.

With that said, whenever someone does get banned, there is never any "explanation". It's just not something that's built into that system.

But if you were in fact banned, it was a temporary 24h ban. Probably for something you said. And that something was probably removed as well.
I could probably manually dig through the database to find what you posted and what was removed. But I really don't feel like it.

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 07:45:13 AM »
I was banned from the chatbox just the the day, and I was told on Discord which comment caused my ban, with a screenshot. Fortunately, it’s only for 24 hours and you could still comment in the chatbox via the forum (unless you get a ban from that as well. lol).

I saw your comment which lead to your 24 hour ban, and I thought it was such a non-story, I can’t actually remember what you said.....

In the past 7 days, me, Carmy, Playtronics and Bumpy have been given temporary bans. I really don’t understand what the hell is going on to be honest....
« Last Edit: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 07:49:56 AM by Mr_Gunman-GB »

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 09:21:37 AM »
I was banned from the chatbox just the the day, and I was told on Discord which comment caused my ban, with a screenshot. Fortunately, it’s only for 24 hours and you could still comment in the chatbox via the forum (unless you get a ban from that as well. lol).

I saw your comment which lead to your 24 hour ban, and I thought it was such a non-story, I can’t actually remember what you said.....

In the past 7 days, me, Carmy, Playtronics and Bumpy have been given temporary bans. I really don’t understand what the hell is going on to be honest....
I can tell you what is going on. But I've got a feeling you won't like it.

There's a bunch of grown ass adults acting like children. And the 25Assist team is left to deal with these children. Whether we act on something or not, we always get shit thrown back in our face. In fact, we're being told we're dictators whenever we do something about the nonsense and hate going on in the shoutbox. And we're being told we're biased if we don't get to something else one of you thinks is "just as bad" within an hour or two.

There used to be a saying "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anyhting at all". But clearly this community has self-identified as "if you can't throw fuel to the drama fire, don't bother posting".

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I don't know what was said exactly. But my best guess is that it was something that was adding fuel to the fire. And the easiest way to put out a fire is to remove its fuel. Which is what was done.
Perhaps the fuel was unintentional. Perhaps something was said as a joke. Perhaps there was a misunderstand. I don't know. But the only real option for slowing down this toxic behaviour in the shoutbox is for us to give people 24h bans on the shoutbox. Perhaps it would be better if we called it a "time out" instead of a ban. But the effect remains the same.
« Last Edit: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 09:27:25 AM by teddy_grizzly_bear »
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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 10:37:19 AM »
Delete shoutbox, we don't need it.
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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, May 21, 2025, 20:23:32 PM »
I can also tell you what is going on. Your Admin Alex is targeting everyone who is against Joe. When I pointed out his double standards, he muted me. Instead of responding to me as a good admin, he ignored my PM and did not even respond to this post. No one from the Assist  Admin staff wants to dig into why I was muted without cause. I have been in the community for a very long time, as many others, and I don't start trouble, but your admin has decided to show his hand on his bias. The issue is that the rest of the Assist Admins don't want to deal with the cold, hard truth. You would rather delete our post or mute us, which is not the America's Army Way.

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, May 22, 2025, 06:41:43 AM »
I can also tell you what is going on. Your Admin Alex is targeting everyone who is against Joe.
Remember - you don't know what you don't know.
Just because Joe and "his gang" don't keep shouting how many times they've been banned on the shoutbox, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I can guarantee that it has.

When I pointed out his double standards, he muted me. Instead of responding to me as a good admin, he ignored my PM and did not even respond to this post. No one from the Assist  Admin staff wants to dig into why I was muted without cause.
It's possible you were banned on the shoutbox as a mistake. If there's a lof of nonsense on there, it can be hard to pinpoint who's trying to do what. So perhaps your example was a mistake. I do not know.
However, given this thread, I've got a feeling it wasn't.
With that said, we're a busy bunch. We don't have time to reply all sort of nonsense PMs. Believe me, we get plenty of it. Remember - we're running this place as volunteers. Free of charge. In our (limited!) free time. Trust me, it's (for the most part) not for the "fun" of it (especially recently).

I have been in the community for a very long time, as many others, and I don't start trouble, but your admin has decided to show his hand on his bias. The issue is that the rest of the Assist Admins don't want to deal with the cold, hard truth. You would rather delete our post or mute us, which is not the America's Army Way.
I'm sorry you don't like how we try to keep the peace in this community. I must admit, we've not done a perfect job of it. Clearly many of you are mad. Either at person A, person B, or their friends, or just the people trying to keep the peace (i.e the administrators).

I will re-iterate again. All we're trying to do with the shoutbox moderation is to lower the (perceived) level of drama and hatred that is rampent in this community. We're not shutting down any one narrative. If we had, you would notice that there wouldn't be any fighting since there'd be nobody to fight. We're trying real hard to make this community feel welcoming and friendly for new (or returning) players. We're trying real hard to limit the moderation to the shoutbox only. But the commmunity keeps proving - time and time again - that our efforts are futile.

So perhaps we should give up? And just admit that this is a toxic community that nobody should want to be a part of. That we might as well let this game die altogether. It's about time, isn't it?
Surely none of us want that!
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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, May 22, 2025, 08:46:27 AM »
All I wanted was an explanation as to why I was muted. If you are saying it was a mistake, I am okay with that.

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Re: I want someone to explain to me why I was banned?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, May 22, 2025, 08:55:26 AM »
All I wanted was an explanation as to why I was muted. If you are saying it was a mistake, I am okay with that.
I did not say it was a mistake.
I said I didn't know. And I said it's possible it was a mistake.
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