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Title: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 15:31:35 PM
Straight-forward question; has there been any updates to Assist? If not, are there any plans to update Assist in any form (security, features, maps)?
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 15:55:34 PM
No, no.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 16:24:15 PM
Sad, but true
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: MothaGoosE on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 16:36:30 PM
lol, 25 Assist. GGs. This is why we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 16:41:46 PM
lol, 25 Assist. GGs. This is why we can't have nice things.
ehh, Assist still works, auth too, do u think that 200 players are effort enough? trust me, we tried to go further, we wanted to update ASAP, but isn't easy, neither shows to be possible at the moment.

as we are still here, theres hope, but, I(personnaly) cannnot promise ANYTHING, most of the changes needed/requested are beyond our skills/effort, realize that somethings CAN'T be changed EVER and the things that can, aren't easy to.

the Game Actually is 100% playable, stats are working 99% fine, everyone is lucky cuz no one would be playing AA like the old way if not by Assist, thank JonnyM and others who spent time developing things to be used in Assist, things that are'nt much used by the players, thats one reason for most of the true assist devs gaving up, luckly JonnyM had balls to ask someone else to take over the 25 AssistProject instead of shuttingdown everything.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 17:02:32 PM
luckly JonnyM had balls to ask someone else to take over the 25 AssistProject instead of shuttingdown everything.

THE REAL HERO.

Thank you JonnyM- we are able to play. Big thanks! You have cojones.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: k!cker on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 17:35:46 PM
How is your gaming revised website going?
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Alex on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 18:42:11 PM
No, no.
Wish you would have said this earlier, I wouldn't have wasted my time making those maps if I knew they were never going to get put in the game.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 18:46:10 PM
Wish you would have said this earlier, I wouldn't have wasted my time making those maps if I knew they were never going to get put in the game.

All I can answer to this is: LOL.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 20:34:51 PM
How is your gaming revised website going?
he gave up too, heard it from him.

Wish you would have said this earlier, I wouldn't have wasted my time making those maps if I knew they were never going to get put in the game.
I guess Pit was sarcastic about the no lol(not sure yet cuz the mofo never reply on msn), if you have read my post above, u will know why its taking much time.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Alex on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 21:24:01 PM
All I can answer to this is: LOL.
What was there to answer? I never asked a question... and if you were trying to be sarcastic like possessed says, you're not very good at showing it.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, October 28, 2012, 21:32:43 PM
What was there to answer? I never asked a question... and if you were trying to be sarcastic like possessed says, you're not very good at showing it.
sure hes not good @ it lol, he have made lots of jokes, but ppl take it serious, lack of english skills  :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 01:09:07 AM
No, no.

All I can answer to this is: LOL.

I'm honestly disappointed. I thought (and I know I'm not alone in this) that you showed promise, interest and desire to push forward with Assist. It was my understanding that when Jonny wanted to find someone new for the project, he wanted more than someone to just handle donations and pay the server costs. In fact;

Quote from: Jonnym
I will still be around to help and will still doing coding work for you when required, i just don't want to be in command anymore. [...] I can then handover control of the auth server, But I will still be around to help you run it.
Quote from: Jonnym
I hope he finds time to take it forward. I will be great to sit back and watch stuff happen for a change.

Granted, you weren't Jonny's first choice but being that you showed some experience in looking at the code for multihoming and you showing interest in the project, we all felt that you had the most promise to take it and turn it into something more.

Now, here's the changelog for mAAp in case you haven't taken a look at it in a while:
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[MAP]ICE - Feb 17th 2012 - Spanky - Added Playerblock to pond.
[MAP]Berg - Feb 19th 2012 - Spanky - Moved perimeter blocking volumes to eliminate rock bug, removed useless terrain, set several BSP surfaces to unlit and attempted fix for Assault playerstart.
[MAP]Breakout - Feb 21st 2012 - Spanky - Fixed some lighting issues, added light fixtures, resolved anti-portal issue in control room and added an objective.
[MAP]Square - Feb 22nd 2012 - Spanky - Made some surfaces into Anti-Portals to try and raise FPS, lowered and raised some lightmaps in various areas for better quality lighting and lower file size.
[CODE]TriggerLightReset - Feb 25th 2012 - Spanky - Updated TriggerLightReset with defaultproperties that hopefully make it behave better and more reliably.
[MAP]Rummage - Feb 25th 2012 - Spanky - Lowered lighting to be more like 2.8's Rummage. Added sunlight actors in rooms with windows facing the sun. Changed cull distance on some objects to prevent popping in and out.
[MAP]Rummage - Feb 28th 2012 - Spanky - Changed opfor clothing to OpInf to make them more discernable.
[MAP]Aztec - Feb 29th 2012 - Spanky - Added light haze to corridor, changed enemy mesh to reduce errors in server log file.
[MAP]Aztec - Feb 29th 2012 - Spanky - Added another light haze, fixed some lightmaps, fixed a texture, fixed a zone portal, hopefully fixed bridge collision and textures.
[MAP]Square - Feb 29th 2012 - Spanky - Fixed door-warping issue when running through doorways. (awning being too low)
[MAP]Square - March 1st 2012 - Spanky - Added playerblocks to various ledges.
[MAP]Shipment - March 2nd 2012 - Spanky - Changed player meshes and skins, set graphics detail on various meshes and emitters.
[MAP]Pipeline - March 26th 2012 - Spanky - Moved playerstarts around to try to balance the map. Removed break room window and collision on railing.

[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 23th 2012 - Koden - Added 2 civilians with related objectives (triggertime25), partial objective set up, moved defense spawn points to the lower floor, and fixed uniform issue.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 24th 2012 - Koden8- Added Playerblock area to the North exit tunnel to avoid players falling down.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 24th 2012 - Koden - Fixed various light fixtures and rods that were missing (including elevator ones) and the Cafe door opening upwards.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 24th 2012 - Koden - Added movers, that however need a fix as they rotate too much ending up into the wall.Also added a door that has to be single shotted to be activated (2nd door on the right at the bottom of the upper main room)
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 25th 2012 - Koden - Relinked all the ambient sounds for the 2.5 packages.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 25th 2012 - Koden - Completed setting up the objectives.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 28th 2012 - Koden - Fixing the last set of light fixtures, modifying the object sets, fixing uniforms.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 28th 2012 - Koden - Setting off collision for the loading line bumpers in the upper main room. Adding some more sounds in the hospital area at the lower floor, and patients static meshes.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 28th 2012 - Koden - Temporarily taking off NPCs for the 7.2 release (server log spam issue).
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 28th 2012 - Koden - Adding 2 radios and 4 sounds phone ringing sound emitters in the upper and mid floor. Adding harmonica and prison ambience emitters in the prison area.
[MAP]Interdiction - Feb 29th 2012 - Koden - Fixing grate movers, adding HUD text for objectives and unlockable doors, fixing main room 2nd floor material, fixing assault double fireteam leaders, cleaning out garbage meshes.
[MAP]SFhospital - May 7th 2012 - Koden - Adding player blocks collision to avoid players moving into area they're not supposed to (reversed shelves in the room behind acceptance and in the escort spawn, next to the car). Also added a playerblock volume on the roof, and one in the ambush alley next to a dumpster.

[MAP]Glass Kill House - Feb 25 2012 - Blue - Removed volume lights from west side windows. They just eat fps too much. Plus sunlight comes through the east windows anyways.
[MAP]Aztec - Feb 25 2012 - Blue - Fixed reporting in using the LocationPriority property on commvolumes and ZoneInfos.
[MAP]Breakout - Feb 26 2012 - Blue - Tweaked objectives, slight changes in some lighting to color coordinate the maps color scheme, and almost entirely zoned.
[MAP]Breakout - Feb 27 2012 - Blue - Made the main area darker. Changed various lights around the map to introduce the red/blue color scheme.

[MAP] Square - May 1 2012 - KiLLaMaN - "fixed" the large amount of points. Has yet to be tested.
[MAP] Square - May 8 2012 - KiLLaMaN - Removed sounds from objectives as they were too loud. Temporary fix.
[MAP] Square - May 10 2012 - KiLLaMaN - Fixed fire sound for burning car.
[MAP] Ice - May 19 2012 - KiLLaMaN - Added wind ambient sound to Ice.
[MAP] Breakout - June 8 2012 - Maxbulldog - Finished off the zone portally.
[MAP] Breakout - June 10 2012 - Maxbulldog - Continued adding some of the blue/red lighting.
[MAP] Breakout - June 10 2012 - Maxbulldog - Finished off the red/blue lighting as well as all of the comm locations.
At least, that's what it was before I left the shared Dropbox folder. There's some pretty important updates that have been waiting for over 8 months. But, let's all be honest, nobody cares about mAAp let alone updates for it. How about critical security updates? You know, user bans, anti-cheat scripts, that kind of stuff. I'm quite surprised none of them have been important enough to you to implement.

What's my point? I feel that you, being the project admin, are obligated to push forward otherwise you're not doing your job. Yea, it's not my place to tell you what to do (and I don't really care about what you do) but the people that are thankful for having Assist deserve an admin that can provide updates, not only for content but for security and to make the game more enjoyable.


Just my worthless opinion,
Bitter Old Man












*EDIT*
What happened to this guy:
Yes Spanky, I noticed the site admin rights, thanks.

Wow, you have sent me very interesting stuff. Thanks very much. It's really great the Crusade helps.

***line removed***

What was that Jonnys "backup plan"? Going linux-only (he mentioned this to me in one of PMs)?

I must tell you I'm starting to view this anti-cheat effort as personally attractive to me. I have zero experience with strictly game-related code, but I feel comfortable in low-level stuff in general (when I was younger :-D I've coded my own kernel with memory protection, processes, threads and all that, and I knew x86 instruction set by heart, so that I could code in binary :-D).

One of the things I was already planning, is to re-write the Assist in C or C++. That will also help with anti-cheat things as we will have more control over the Assist process than with Realbasic.

I'm currently taking care of some pending issues related to my house, kids, etc. (that's why I haven't done any real work yet, only posting BS on forum ;-D), but as soon I finish most urgent stuff, I hope to finally get some time for real work on Assist.

Thanks for those PMs again.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, October 29, 2012, 01:38:07 AM
Quote from: Pit
Yes Spanky, I noticed the site admin rights, thanks.

Wow, you have sent me very interesting stuff. Thanks very much. It's really great the Crusade helps.

***line removed***

What was that Jonnys "backup plan"? Going linux-only (he mentioned this to me in one of PMs)?

I must tell you I'm starting to view this anti-cheat effort as personally attractive to me. I have zero experience with strictly game-related code, but I feel comfortable in low-level stuff in general (when I was younger :-D I've coded my own kernel with memory protection, processes, threads and all that, and I knew x86 instruction set by heart, so that I could code in binary :-D).

One of the things I was already planning, is to re-write the Assist in C or C++. That will also help with anti-cheat things as we will have more control over the Assist process than with Realbasic.

I'm currently taking care of some pending issues related to my house, kids, etc. (that's why I haven't done any real work yet, only posting BS on forum ;-D), but as soon I finish most urgent stuff, I hope to finally get some time for real work on Assist.

Thanks for those PMs again.

LOL
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: SPC-D.Pelerine[3rdID] on Monday, October 29, 2012, 01:48:17 AM
if you need help to work on updates for Assist ask me and i can help with what ever needs to be updated if you need help with server scripts for anything i can make some or edit old one since i did know the code that most of the AADevs used since i was a Beta tester before i stoped playing for almost 1.5 years i would like to see some updates and help with them so just message me on what you think if you would want my help or not since i alreaddy know almost everything about the 2.5 map editor(2.4.1 editor) i can help with maps that people would like to see in updates to come
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Monday, October 29, 2012, 02:50:36 AM
if you need help to work on updates for Assist ask me and i can help with what ever needs to be updated if you need help with server scripts for anything i can make some or edit old one since i did know the code that most of the AADevs used since i was a Beta tester before i stoped playing for almost 1.5 years i would like to see some updates and help with them so just message me on what you think if you would want my help or not since i alreaddy know almost everything about the 2.5 map editor(2.4.1 editor) i can help with maps that people would like to see in updates to come
help is more than welcome, the problem is: maps can't be deployed without an update on the assist software.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, October 29, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
[...] Yea, it's not my place to tell you what to do [...]

I totally agree with you on this one.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 05:28:56 AM
That's it? I thought you might have something worthwhile to post but I guess you're too busy banning without proof and giving yourself admin on servers that make you mad.

Are you taking the stance of "fuck what anyone else thinks" or did I upset you with my poor attempts at trolling earlier? Either way, I regret giving you this site. You've done nothing but break things. Another waste of potential. At least you're 2 for 2 on that streak.

If you ever pull your head out of your ass long enough to have a reasonable discussion, I'm sure there's other people that would like to hear an explanation for the lack of updates and no future plans to do anything. Personally, I don't care for an answer, it's just an observation on my part. Go ahead, ignore me and slap a ban on me, it will just show who you really are.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, October 29, 2012, 05:41:48 AM
That's it? I thought you might have something worthwhile to post but I guess you're too busy banning without proof and giving yourself admin on servers that make you mad.

Are you taking the stance of "fuck what anyone else thinks" or did I upset you with my poor attempts at trolling earlier? Either way, I regret giving you this site. You've done nothing but break things. Another waste of potential. At least you're 2 for 2 on that streak.

If you ever pull your head out of your ass long enough to have a reasonable discussion, I'm sure there's other people that would like to hear an explanation for the lack of updates and no future plans to do anything. Personally, I don't care for an answer, it's just an observation on my part. Go ahead, ignore me and slap a ban on me, it will just show who you really are.

Hard words :arab:  :poorguy:

By the way- there is "arab" emoticon. Why there isn't Isaac icon? Racial discrimination.

You know. Just say STFU, then I will stop, Pit :D
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, October 29, 2012, 06:49:55 AM
[...] Either way, I regret giving you this site. [...]

You can take it back at any moment.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, October 29, 2012, 09:59:11 AM
as i did see yesterday, more then 230 players online !!!
so maybe we wait another 6 month and we are 500 players and then ....?

i would like to thank everyone who did give a bit of his blood for making all this possible. and i still hope it will go on with the best game ever - aa2
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 11:55:34 AM
as i did see yesterday, more then 230 players online !!!
so maybe we wait another 6 month and we are 500 players and then ....?

Doubt it. It was around those numbers 6 months ago. I remember seeing 260+.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, October 29, 2012, 12:06:10 PM
I remember seeing 260+.

I remember seeing 2500.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: MothaGoosE on Monday, October 29, 2012, 14:35:20 PM
Pit, if you ever had a position of power in reality, the people would be morally obliged to assassinate you.

As far as Assist goes, you aren't doing anything but abusing your privileges. The only reason people still play is because they want to play AA, not because of you. Because of you, none of the people I used to play Assist with still play. Because of you, people get banned without proof, whether they are guilty or not because you think you're an anti-cheat expert. Because of you, no respect to the former members of this project is shown and their advice is, not only disregarded, but met with hostility. You were a horrible candidate for the position you're in and I knew it from the beginning. You know why you're having so much trouble? Because you pissed off every last person willing and able to help. You are a disgrace to what was formerly the Assist team and it doesn't take an engineer to see it. I want Spanky, Blue, and Killa back.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Monday, October 29, 2012, 14:42:56 PM
MothaGoosE i'm sorry but where have you been? They are the ones that left, they were the ones leaving this project. Pit just got it in his hands to solo handle, yes no update was released to this date but at least it wasn't shutdown like it was going to, don't forget that... Now don't come here after a few months saying crap that you don't know anything...
Worst thing are people that don't even play the game trying to blame others for their lack of skills or lack of will to the game... Let those that like the game keep playing it.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: God on Monday, October 29, 2012, 15:14:26 PM

Worst thing are people that don't even play the game trying to blame others for their lack of skills or lack of will to the game... Let those that like the game keep playing it.

Agree whit u Sergio
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: God on Monday, October 29, 2012, 15:24:58 PM
and btw....Spanky you should come back.....
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 15:39:24 PM
Sergio, something I mentioned to Possessed yesterday is the fact that Jonny, me, Blue, Killa hardly played the game very much yet they/we put the most into Assist. It was a passion because we all enjoyed the game at one point. I just find it really odd that you guys seemingly have that same passion and are all admins yet all you're doing is keeping a dysfunctional ban system going. Part of my frustration with leaving is that I knew things weren't going to be carried on outside of Jonny's supervision/help. I did have hope in Pit but that disappeared and he's shown less and less promise/motivation to do anything with the project. I just wonder, why?

*EDIT*
Just to clear the record, I have no desire to come back. It's not the community or the admins, I just feel no desire/motivation to use the editor or play AA.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: DDi-dragon on Monday, October 29, 2012, 17:30:16 PM
Honestly, if people can help me with basics and stuff and guide me for a few days I can help out a lot around here.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Bart! on Monday, October 29, 2012, 19:17:06 PM
Honestly, if people can help me with basics and stuff and guide me for a few days I can help out a lot around here.
See pit, you can get help if you don't have time, just ask for it. It is not that hard
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Monday, October 29, 2012, 19:41:36 PM
PPL , dont forget that, if you feel capacited and dont wanna help us, instead, make ur own project;
We are maintening Assist, no one can argue about that, if you think that its easy to port a program from a language to another then your are wrong, even with pit knownledgment it takes much time, remember, we are humans, We all do Work, we have families to take care of and bills to pay etc etc etc...
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Gnar on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:04:38 PM
It doesn't matter who is in charge of this project, AA is still gonna suck regardless.

Btw.......Hai everyone.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:11:28 PM
Bitter Old Man Crew Strikes, jk.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Gnar on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:17:51 PM
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Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:20:33 PM
Spanky gonna hate.

HATERS GONNA STFU AND LEAVE! K, THX.  :up:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:40:16 PM
PPL , dont forget that, if you feel capacited and dont wanna help us, instead, make ur own project;
We are maintening Assist, no one can argue about that, if you think that its easy to port a program from a language to another then your are wrong, even with pit knownledgment it takes much time, remember, we are humans, We all do Work, we have families to take care of and bills to pay etc etc etc...

Yet another point I brought up to you yesterday, Jonny made Assist and he has a family, job, bills and I recall he was moving and/or remodeling yet somehow he found the time.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:45:54 PM
LOL, wtf is this? It's like in some fucking zombie game. All zombie forum trolls have arisen from death... I find it really hilarious: Spanky comes back to forum after weeks/months and within minutes, skrewy and mans are by his side and shit is all around.

Is this some new project of yours? TrollingRevisited?

To Spanky (and his zombie trolling crew): fuck off. You don't have any rights to demand from me _anything_, especially in this style. I didn't steal anything from you, I haven't begged for anything, I haven't declared any obligations. I just took the thing from Jonny (the only normal person in this whole project, as I see it now, after all the crap the others wrote), because none of you wanted to keep it alive. And now you come here and bitch about me doing nothing.

Did I participate in some fucking presidential campaign, have I made some fake promises to anyone? No, so fuck off.

You don't know shit about me, you don't know anything about my personal situation, you don't have any right about deciding what I do with my time.

Yes, I could rewrite the whole thing in few weeks, but I won't do it just because of you bitching or to please anyone else, I will do it only when I find some fun in doing this. That's how it works.

You regret about giving me site? So fucking take it back, and care about it again. But wait, you won't do it, cause you don't care anymore. You'd rather kill it, cause it created bandwidth costs on your hosting.

BTW, you claim I "broke" something on this site? Let me explain: it's just some shitty part of your code, that stopped working after being moved to another hosting...

You don't pay me, so you don't have any rights to tell me what to do. BTW, all the assist donation money is left untouched on paypal account.

You claim that I'm some kind of power-hungry dictator? I never asked for anything that was transferred to me. You can have your site back at any moment. Jonny can have the assist back at any moment.

You use some PM that you got from me, only to quote it on forum in a mean way. It just show how low troll you have become.

You can congratulate yourselves, you managed to make me mad for a few hours. But now I'm just going to ignore you, cause you entered total troll mode, and I'm not going to feed trolls anymore.

To sum it up: fuck off.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Gnar on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:54:52 PM
Is this some new project of yours? TrollingRevisited?

I lol'd
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Alex on Monday, October 29, 2012, 21:59:07 PM
LOL, wtf is this? It's like in some fucking zombie game. All zombie forum trolls have arisen from death... I find it really hilarious: Spanky comes back to forum after weeks/months and within minutes, skrewy and mans are by his side and shit is all around.

Is this some new project of yours? TrollingRevisited?

To Spanky (and his zombie trolling crew): fuck off. You don't have any rights to demand from me _anything_, especially in this style. I didn't steal anything from you, I haven't begged for anything, I haven't declared any obligations. I just took the thing from Jonny (the only normal person in this whole project, as I see it now, after all the crap the others wrote), because none of you wanted to keep it alive. And now you come here and bitch about me doing nothing.

Did I participate in some fucking presidential campaign, have I made some fake promises to anyone? No, so fuck off.

You don't know shit about me, you don't know anything about my personal situation, you don't have any right about deciding what I do with my time.

Yes, I could rewrite the whole thing in few weeks, but I won't do it just because of you bitching or to please anyone else, I will do it only when I find some fun in doing this. That's how it works.

You regret about giving me site? So fucking take it back, and care about it again. But wait, you won't do it, cause you don't care anymore. You'd rather kill it, cause it created bandwidth costs on your hosting.

BTW, you claim I "broke" something on this site? Let me explain: it's just some shitty part of your code, that stopped working after being moved to another hosting...

You don't pay me, so you don't have any rights to tell me what to do. BTW, all the assist donation money is left untouched on paypal account.

You claim that I'm some kind of power-hungry dictator? I never asked for anything that was transferred to me. You can have your site back at any moment. Jonny can have the assist back at any moment.

You use some PM that you got from me, only to quote it on forum in a mean way. It just show how low troll you have become.

You can congratulate yourselves, you managed to make me mad for a few hours. But now I'm just going to ignore you, cause you entered total troll mode, and I'm not going to feed trolls anymore.

To sum it up: fuck off.
I completely agree with you for the most part. I don't think it's fair that people expect you to update assist when you're doing it all for free. Nobody has the right to bitch about there being no updates on something that is provided for free. It's simply unfair.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 29, 2012, 22:22:11 PM
Pit, I'll respond and if you choose not to read it, oh well.

LOL, wtf is this? It's like in some fucking zombie game. All zombie forum trolls have arisen from death... I find it really hilarious: Spanky comes back to forum after weeks/months and within minutes, skrewy and mans are by his side and shit is all around.
I never told, asked or suggested to Skrewy or Mans to come on here and troll. I did show Skrewy this thread and I guess they got bored and took it into their own hands. I had nothing to do with anything they did although, the image that Skrewy made was quite funny. I will also take this opportunity to say that Skrewy has had access to my account for a couple weeks, he was the one that changed my signature.

Is this some new project of yours? TrollingRevisited?

To Spanky (and his zombie trolling crew): fuck off. You don't have any rights to demand from me _anything_, especially in this style. I didn't steal anything from you, I haven't begged for anything, I haven't declared any obligations. I just took the thing from Jonny (the only normal person in this whole project, as I see it now, after all the crap the others wrote), because none of you wanted to keep it alive. And now you come here and bitch about me doing nothing.

Did I participate in some fucking presidential campaign, have I made some fake promises to anyone? No, so fuck off.
I agree with all of this. I'm not demanding anything from you, not even asking.

You don't know shit about me, you don't know anything about my personal situation, you don't have any right about deciding what I do with my time.
That's exactly why I created this thread. It was a simple question but you decided to take a holier-than-thou approach to answering. I really don't care about updates or the future of the game, I was just honestly curious. I still find it odd that you showed such enthusiasm and now that's seemingly all gone. I just wonder what happened? I thought you wanted to take this project forward.

Yes, I could rewrite the whole thing in few weeks, but I won't do it just because of you bitching or to please anyone else, I will do it only when I find some fun in doing this. That's how it works.
FINALLY! We get somewhere! Now, let me retort; aren't you having fun playing and enjoying the game? If so, why don't you want to improve it?

You regret about giving me site? So fucking take it back, and care about it again. But wait, you won't do it, cause you don't care anymore. You'd rather kill it, cause it created bandwidth costs on your hosting.
I do regret it but that doesn't mean I want it back. It's filled with far too much useless threads to be able to turn it into something meaningful (to be fair, it was like that before I gave it to you).

BTW, you claim I "broke" something on this site? Let me explain: it's just some shitty part of your code, that stopped working after being moved to another hosting...
Care to share what part of my "shitty" code is broken now? It takes very little energy and bandwidth to shoot me a message on MSN to ask how to fix it.

You don't pay me, so you don't have any rights to tell me what to do. BTW, all the assist donation money is left untouched on paypal account.
Right, again, I'm not demanding anything. It was a question out of curiosity.

You claim that I'm some kind of power-hungry dictator? I never asked for anything that was transferred to me. You can have your site back at any moment. Jonny can have the assist back at any moment.
I never said that. I do think you've let the power go to your head though as shown by your "fuck you all and fuck what you think" attitude. But hey, remember when me & Blue got ahold of global admin and started banning and kicking people? That was one of the few recent times I actually had fun in AA :)

You use some PM that you got from me, only to quote it on forum in a mean way. It just show how low troll you have become.
If you found that PM mean, then you must have wrote it mean. I copied it verbatim using the forum's quote function.

You can congratulate yourselves, you managed to make me mad for a few hours. But now I'm just going to ignore you, cause you entered total troll mode, and I'm not going to feed trolls anymore.

To sum it up: fuck off.
I'll admit, that was my goal before I started this thread :) Was it my jerkoff smilies?



Nobody else wants the project so it's all yours Mr big admin. Just kind of interesting that in 6 months you haven't even pushed out a tiny security update that you could write in less than 2 hours that would greatly improve user bans, create less work for admins. But hey, keep on doing whatever floats your boat because you are the captain.

Avast ye skipper!
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: inverseKID on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 01:12:52 AM
I just want to play aa on my 2012 macbook, this linux ish is confusing
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 08:11:16 AM
Why you people keep arguing about this, it is crazy.

If someone can help for assist, do it.

If someone can make some updates, do it.

If someone can make better cvars, go ahead.

But if nobody fuking wanna help or can't help with the project don't blame others?

Life's a bitch sometimes, deal with it

Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: ^^UnDiSpUtEd^^ on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 13:28:38 PM
I know i would like to see updates, since i don't play anymore still visit sometimes to check everything out. I was even banned by someone because i said it will never improve ok, this is abuse of power just because i stated my opinion. I fully support sparky and would like new hoster and new admins.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 23:21:10 PM
If someone can make some updates, do it.
Someone already can.

If someone can make better cvars, go ahead.
Already done, it's one of the things sitting in queue for the update that will never come.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 03:26:03 AM
Someone already can.

I guess I had to add "and wants to do it"
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 11:49:14 AM
but jesus, please don't take DDi-dragon
he just want to no how you open all the slots, that's it. nothing else  :o  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: DDi-dragon on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 13:23:10 PM
I already know how to, no thanks to you. The community is small, people usually help others but you want to be so selfish and not even tell someone how to open slots and say " ITS A SECRET "

So childish.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 14:21:52 PM
Pure bullshit...

 this is why i don't play anymore, spanky is right, pit is Right every1 is right...


  The other day i felt the urge to reinstall and download all the crap but when i remembered i would only find bullshit in the game the very same urge left my body...

 Updates? are they really necessary? do enough people play the game to update it? I'm guessing no... i belive alot of effort was put to something that is meant to die.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Thursday, November 01, 2012, 04:57:33 AM
I already know how to, no thanks to you. The community is small, people usually help others but you want to be so selfish and not even tell someone how to open slots and say " ITS A SECRET "

So childish.

and you asked how to log ip?
what do you know about aa2 at all. and of course i did give the solution to other players to open the slots, but i will not give it to someone who did say "you are a fucked person". i guess YOU will understand that.
and do not ask me for the batch program with the ip logging, do not.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: DDi-dragon on Thursday, November 01, 2012, 10:16:29 AM
and you asked how to log ip?
what do you know about aa2 at all. and of course i did give the solution to other players to open the slots, but i will not give it to someone who did say "you are a fucked person". i guess YOU will understand that.
and do not ask me for the batch program with the ip logging, do not.

You're right, I don't know much. But at least I'm willing to help others that need help instead of telling people " i won't tell you it's a secret " like you did to me.

And don't worry I wasn't asking you anyways. It's a shame you hide all these stuff from people whose server runs so much better than yours. I can understand the competition problem you're facing.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: zoxee on Thursday, November 01, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
I'll admit, that was my goal before I started this thread :)

Damn, i suddenly remember the day you told me how you how u love it to start free shit in the forums...
Well, considering that we all came well along together since u guys left, i suggest you just go back
where you came from. We really don't need any new dramas.

Pit, if you ever had a position of power in reality, the people would be morally obliged to assassinate you.

As far as Assist goes, you aren't doing anything but abusing your privileges. The only reason people still play is because they want to play AA, not because of you. Because of you, none of the people I used to play Assist with still play. Because of you, people get banned without proof, whether they are guilty or not because you think you're an anti-cheat expert. Because of you, no respect to the former members of this project is shown and their advice is, not only disregarded, but met with hostility. You were a horrible candidate for the position you're in and I knew it from the beginning. You know why you're having so much trouble? Because you pissed off every last person willing and able to help. You are a disgrace to what was formerly the Assist team and it doesn't take an engineer to see it. I want Spanky, Blue, and Killa back.

Goose, Christmas is coming and to be frank, if Santa happened to leave a free ticket to rape you under my tree,
i wouldn't even use it.

You're not close to being worth it after what you told Pit. Who the fuck are u to talk this way ?
Aside of bitchin around like a school girl all the time, i couldn't recall anything of value you may have
brought to this community which could give you some credit for opening your mouth that big.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, November 02, 2012, 07:47:34 AM
You're right, I don't know much. But at least I'm willing to help others that need help instead of telling people " i won't tell you it's a secret " like you did to me.

And don't worry I wasn't asking you anyways. It's a shame you hide all these stuff from people whose server runs so much better than yours. I can understand the competition problem you're facing.

@dragon: good bye then! of couse you do not have to play on my server as you never did. btw i can read out the ip and you never ever where on one of the [SWISS]Servers. so how can you tell about that - a typical american bullshit answer it is.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Friday, November 02, 2012, 10:06:19 AM
I belive this is going out of hand..

 If anyone belives that you are doing a great job keep it up, but if peole bitch about what you do, take a hard look inside maybe you are doing things the wrong way!

 I started playing againg but all i can see is new people.....
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Possessed on Friday, November 02, 2012, 10:11:43 AM
I belive this is going out of hand..

 If anyone belives that you are doing a great job keep it up, but if peole bitch about what you do, take a hard look inside maybe you are doing things the wrong way!

 I started playing againg but all i can see is new people.....
well, the only ppl bitching here you know very well... in-game Ive seen ppl very grateful for "our" work.
mister, I've seen 'lots' of "oldschool" players around, from both EU/NA, may not be the ones you want to see but, ya, theres some old players and I hope you find your buddies in game.  :up:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Ganja on Friday, November 02, 2012, 11:14:24 AM

 I started playing againg but all i can see is new people.....

Oh wait that was one of the 2 objectives wasn't it?

Bring old players back
Bring new players

Mission completed  :up:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Alex on Friday, November 02, 2012, 12:53:59 PM
Oh wait that was one of the 2 objectives wasn't it?

Bring old players back
Bring new players

Mission completed  :up:
A lot of people that were playing when this thing started left because AA went right back to the crap it was before auth went down. People just want to play on stupid modded servers all the time. We had to struggle to get a normal server populated. I don't want to load up Urban Assault  just to get hit by a bunch of 203s because everyone chooses SF. It's stupid. Making modded servers non-honor could be a fix, but I doubt that will ever happen, and no, not because pit isn't going to update it, but because we would have a ton of people bitch about it they they ever did decide to do it.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: MothaGoosE on Friday, November 02, 2012, 13:41:11 PM
Damn, i suddenly remember the day you told me how you how u love it to start free shit in the forums...
Well, considering that we all came well along together since u guys left, i suggest you just go back
where you came from. We really don't need any new dramas.

Goose, Christmas is coming and to be frank, if Santa happened to leave a free ticket to rape you under my tree,
i wouldn't even use it.

You're not close to being worth it after what you told Pit. Who the fuck are u to talk this way ?
Aside of bitchin around like a school girl all the time, i couldn't recall anything of value you may have
brought to this community which could give you some credit for opening your mouth that big.

This reminds me: You are a complete fucking idiot. The reason I'm annoyed is mostly because I put a lot of work into a map that will never be released. The only reason I put so much time into it is because I was told, on numerous occasions, that it would be released. Last time I checked, creating new content to the game was a form of help. It sure was a lot of work. But seriously. Your response to my post was that you don't think raping me would be worth it, even if you could, because I had a complaint about Assist's current super-admin. Just because I have an opposing view doesn't validate your post. Post something relevant instead of random half-baked insults or just shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Friday, November 02, 2012, 14:38:23 PM
Oh wait that was one of the 2 objectives wasn't it?

Bring old players back
Bring new players

Mission completed  :up:

  Still missing the point of what this game really was, a very accurate warfare simulator, not an RPG fiesta.

 I know you are going to talk about mAAp but let me get ahead. I only like the pipeline maap, and a few made really realistic like square...


A lot of people that were playing when this thing started left because AA went right back to the crap it was before auth went down. People just want to play on stupid modded servers all the time. We had to struggle to get a normal server populated. I don't want to load up Urban Assault  just to get hit by a bunch of 203s because everyone chooses SF. It's stupid. Making modded servers non-honor could be a fix, but I doubt that will ever happen, and no, not because pit isn't going to update it, but because we would have a ton of people bitch about it they they ever did decide to do it.

  I hear you killaman modded servers should be moderated i would like to play regular weapons from time to time. i got blow up today playing UA, it was not cool at all.

  As i don't really care who this pit is and if he updates the assist/servers, i would have to host my own UA server with no mods. i just hope people will join. i know that if you play the game you would.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Friday, November 02, 2012, 14:51:52 PM
The reason I'm annoyed is mostly because I put a lot of work into a map that will never be released. The only reason I put so much time into it is because I was told, on numerous occasions, that it would be released.

None of such work will be wasted. I will gather all pending stuff that can be included without major changes (maps, cvars, etc.) and make an update as soon as I can. I will ask for it in a separate thread.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, November 02, 2012, 15:38:30 PM
hihi, whats that?
doesn't every player can choose the server (modded or not) by itself ?
but realy, if you will release an update that makes modded server died or home server not possible anymore i will leave
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: pit-23 on Friday, November 02, 2012, 15:48:19 PM
hihi, whats that?
doesn't every player can choose the server (modded or not) by itself ?
but realy, if you will release an update that makes modded server died or home server not possible anymore i will leave

LOL, first I receive bitching about not updating, now I will receive bitching about updating. I love you people.

Making modded servers untracked is not planned at the moment, so don't worry.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: MothaGoosE on Friday, November 02, 2012, 15:49:16 PM
None of such work will be wasted. I will gather all pending stuff that can be included without major changes (maps, cvars, etc.) and make an update as soon as I can. I will ask for it in a separate thread.

I appreciate it, and I'll get back to work.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, November 02, 2012, 19:44:06 PM
LOL, first I receive bitching about not updating, now I will receive bitching about updating. I love you people.

Making modded servers untracked is not planned at the moment, so don't worry.

i did not bitch you at all, but your answer is  :up:
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: zoxee on Friday, November 02, 2012, 23:59:44 PM
...instead of random half-baked insults...

...assassinate you...abusing your privileges...You were a horrible candidate....You are a disgrace...

True, you seem to come from a more educated background than me.
Title: Re: Update, has there been, will there be?
Post by: Koden on Saturday, November 03, 2012, 06:53:14 AM
Enough.

Pit has already opened a thread regarding things to be included in the next update.

Motha and Zoxee - stop talking to each other like that, i'll start deleting posts if it keeps going. No flames thanks.