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Title: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
I still am very curious way Spanky did leave this community and what is the reaction from the rest of the crue insite Assist.
Is this the begin of the end !!  :makemyday:
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
There was a discussion in the private area of the forum and Spanky had a difference of an opinion on a matter and he decided he doesn't fit in anymore.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 11:01:00 AM
I can understand this yes . It looks like assist is in bad weather for this moment. Hope there will be a good talk between you guys to solf the disagrement . And work on it to bring a peacefull interaction for both sites. And if not a earned leave for his inputh. The reactions in the thx  topic for Spanky are in my oppinion not worthy for his inputh.  I don`t know how high the conflict is but Guy's his inputh was  unrivaled much.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 12:07:47 PM
It looks like assist is in bad weather for this moment.

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Koden on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Spanky has often been disappointed because of the way people play this game, either because of those trying everything to gain some unfair advantage or because  most of the players tend to play the same maps over and over. He also already left for a while, back in time. I can just say it has been great to have him here, maybe he will come back (i think and hope that he will).
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: NoBigDeal on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
There was a discussion in the private area of the forum and Spanky had a difference of an opinion on a matter and he decided he doesn't fit in anymore.
Which discussion? ...and why the RM members wasn't informed?
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 14:01:44 PM
I found out about a week ago myself.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Alex on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 14:37:01 PM
Which discussion? ...and why the RM members wasn't informed?
We didn't feel the need to tell anyone as Spanky never saw the need to tell anyone. If he didn't want to tell you guys, we weren't going to.
I don't like leaving people in the dark though. Spanky wanted to punish users for using the quickswap bug and nobody else agreed with him so he said he didn't belong here. There was no big argument, no insults thrown, nothing. It was just a simple disagreement. He hasn't left the admin group on AAO25 so I don't know if he's leaving the door open for a comeback or not.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Carmy on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 14:41:19 PM
Its sad to see a great Administrator for this community go! Cause of one loser player Spanky is right in all he had to say about the cheaters in this game! And you all let him go ...instead of letting the player being banned .
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: NoBigDeal on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:00:03 PM
Thanks Killa - I see your point, but it's not about some random player leaving this community it's about someone who kept alive so long this game - this community. It's just not right ...
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:15:33 PM
Its sad to see a great Administrator for this community go! Cause of one loser player Spanky is right in all if had to say about the cheaters in this game! And you all let him go ...instead of letting the player being banned .

It's not about one specific player. Spanky was against quickswap in general, and more than 60% of the players use it, that's why the other admins didn't want to punish people for it.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Carmy on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:21:35 PM
It's not about one specific player. Spanky was against quickswap in general, and more than 60% of the players use it, that's why the other admins didn't want to punish people for it.
Why not!!! you did for Macro users, why not do the same here?? I dont use it why should others be allowed??
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:27:24 PM
Why not!!! you did for Macro users, why not do the same here?? I dont use it why should others be allowed??

Like I said, more than 60% of the current players use it, it's not a secret, I use it too. People are used to that now. But hey this isn't a topic about quickswap is it?
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Carmy on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:39:30 PM
Like I said, more than 60% of the current players use it, it's not a secret, I use it too. People are used to that now. But hey this isn't a topic about quickswap is it?
Well I ant in that 60%! So I stand bye Spanky!! Your all a bunch of cheaters  Good day !!
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ronski on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 15:39:39 PM
Like I said, more than 60% of the current players use it, it's not a secret, I use it too. People are used to that now. But hey this isn't a topic about quickswap is it?
If it can't be removed, or there can't be shake added on quickswap function, the easiest way is simply allowing it. If people would get banned from the usage of it, this game would be dead very quickly.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: NoBigDeal on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 16:13:55 PM
So we are at the point when some of the cheats are allowed and others not ..?

@Carmy: +1
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ronski on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 16:18:35 PM
well.. quickswap is more like a feature than actual cheat imo.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 16:36:58 PM
well.. quickswap is more like a feature than actual cheat imo.
In all honesty, it's a bug.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 16:39:54 PM
In all honesty, it's a bug.

It's a bug that everyone has grown to use because during all the years it (nearly) was never punished ...
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 16:50:46 PM
60% use it , we'll I'm also not in that 60% , don't know how to use that bug/exploit nor do I care to learn how to do it,

I agree with spanky 100%

It's a advantage over regular players that don't use it

Should be a penalty just like that prone bug yous made, but then again ways around that as well shake something

Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 18:15:20 PM
60% use it , we'll I'm also not in that 60% , don't know how to use that bug/exploit nor do I care to learn how to do it,

I agree with spanky 100%

It's a advantage over regular players that don't use it

Should be a penalty just like that prone bug yous made, but then again ways around that as well shake something



But you can use it, it's not forbidden. Not my fault if you can't do it. It's like saying "I dont use a headset, so you should be banned for having an advantage over me"
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: NoBigDeal on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 18:24:09 PM
... It's like saying "I dont use a headset, so you should be banned for having an advantage over me"
This is not the same ... and this bug/cheat shouldn't be tolerated.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ronski on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 18:46:55 PM
This is not the same ... and this bug/cheat shouldn't be tolerated.
Of course its not :) its just a humoristic and sarcastic comeback for taking advantage over others. Using exploits & bugs is not the way this game is meant to play. But when a bug is at point where it cant be fixed, it turns into a feature. Its right there available for all, there's nothing to do for it. I would be glad if all of those could be taken out from the game, but as long as they can't be fixed, punishing the usage of them would be nonesense.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 19:37:44 PM
But you can use it, it's not forbidden. Not my fault if you can't do it. It's like saying "I dont use a headset, so you should be banned for having an advantage over me"

1st. I never said ban users for using it, i just don't use it never needed to gain advantage using quickswap
2nd A lot of times i don't use headphones unless on ts, more of a challenge without using sound
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Alex on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 21:17:19 PM
Thanks Killa - I see your point, but it's not about some random player leaving this community it's about someone who kept alive so long this game - this community. It's just not right ...
I agree. It sucks that he's not active anymore. This wasn't our decision, it was his and he can come back at any time he wishes.

well.. quickswap is more like a feature than actual cheat imo.
Na, it's a bug. They fixed it in 2.7 I think. It wasn't there in 2.8 for sure.

As far as stopping quickswap goes, there's no decent way to do it. Quickswap happens accidentally all the time. We can't kick for it or everyone would get kicked, including those that don't even try to use it. Ever fall off a ledge while reloading/pulling out a nade/ pretty much doing anything? You'd get kicked for quickswap. The idea behind quickswap is that the animation for pulling out the weapon/nade is replaced by another shorter animation, such as a jump or crouch. However, this happens accidentally all the time.

If we can't have assist kick for it, the only other option would be to have admins see players using it and then ban, and that's a terrible way to do anti-cheat. Quickswap is something we have to live with.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ronski on Sunday, September 20, 2015, 23:17:56 PM
Na, it's a bug. They fixed it in 2.7 I think. It wasn't there in 2.8 for sure.
Yes it's a bug, and using a bug that cant be removed is not cheating.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Bart! on Monday, September 21, 2015, 01:43:21 AM
So we are at the point when some of the cheats are allowed and others not ..?

@Carmy: +1
Not at all, it's more or less the fact that it happens per accident as well very easily, and the fact that we do not have much to stop it except for visually spotting somebody doing it.

If we COULD fix it, we would. But banning people for using it when it can also happen per accident is a no-go.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, September 21, 2015, 01:52:03 AM
Na, it's a bug. They fixed it in 2.7 I think. It wasn't there in 2.8 for sure.
It is a bug, but that's not entirely true, there were at least 2 ways to still use quickswap on 2.8.

The only possibility to punish quickswap would be - like mentioned - to have it the same as with prone firing: put away the gun and make the screen shake.

Now the problem would be that of definitively detecting it.
Plus, like Killa said, there are plenty of ways to accidentally cause the bug.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, September 21, 2015, 02:46:16 AM
Spanky is a top lad in this community, one of the best admins, you won't see people like him in this community. His the only one who listens and understands.I been here for years and people like koden, killaman or even teddy gives a bad atmosphere to this forum. It's hard to find good american ppl sadly. Basically most assist admins are american's and it's a shame,european people are much nicer but hey i wont go deeper into this discussion unless you want me to go that way.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Alex on Monday, September 21, 2015, 02:59:49 AM
.I been here for years and people like koden, killaman or even teddy gives a bad atmosphere to this forum. It's hard to find good american ppl sadly.
Feel free to leave then. I'll also add that teddy isn't American. And nice try trying to turn this into a nation debate. Any more posts trying to do that will be deleted.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
Feel free to leave then. I'll also add that teddy isn't American.

I'm trying to make this forum a better place bud, advice: follow spanky and maybe you achieve something  on the forum and I know his Estonian but his brain has been washed ages ago.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Alex on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:05:12 AM
I'm trying to make this forum a better place bud, advice: follow spanky and maybe you achieve something  on the forum and I know his Estonian but his brain has been washed ages ago.
If you wanted this forum to be a better place you wouldn't keep insulting people and dragging threads off-topic. Then you yell at us for trying to keep things on topic? I don't get that. Maybe it's my inferior American brain though, right?
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:05:38 AM
from koden global moderator, he was promoted again haha wtf seriously?

His pm to me

Quote
I'm not hoping that you're gonna read and comply to the following. It's a formality, so in case we have to ban you AGAIN, you will be warned just one more time :)

More like threatening and power hungry because all admins dont like me expect spanky of course.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:06:52 AM
I don't get that. Maybe it's my inferior American brain though, right?

You said it not me. :D
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Koden on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:09:05 AM
from koden global moderator, he was promoted again haha wtf seriously?

His pm to me

Quote
I'm not hoping that you're gonna read and comply to the following. It's a formality, so in case we have to ban you AGAIN, you will be warned just one more time :)

More like threatening and power hungry because all admins dont like me expect spanky of course.

Thanks for omitting the following, which was

Keep the  discussion on-topic. Do not get personal (especially those who got their post removed), and keep a RESPECTFUL tone.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:12:49 AM
Can spanky brought back? I feel that without him forums aren't the same.I'm still on topic tho
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, September 21, 2015, 03:47:11 AM
Spanky chose to left. If he wants to come back, it will be his decision. We can't force him to do something he doesn't like.

I agree, he was a cool dude to have around, but since this is still voluntary, I don't see how we can force him to come back.
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, September 21, 2015, 05:43:25 AM
sad to hear that Spanky did leave! but in a way i can understand it.
now you maybe should try to stop this fast swap crap in a way - or shake the screen. finaly its more then time to do so.

@Carmy: +1
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
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Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:28:33 PM
sad to hear that Spanky did leave! but in a way i can understand it.
now you maybe should try to stop this fast swap crap in a way - or shake the screen. finaly its more then time to do so.

@Carmy: +1
Vanoke +1
Title: Re: Spanky`s dissapearing way!
Post by: DoWahDiddy on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 01:14:32 AM
If you wanted this forum to be a better place you wouldn't keep insulting people and dragging threads off-topic.

yeah like there's any other way