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Title: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: krIz+ on Saturday, November 24, 2012, 23:35:14 PM
I say take the honor out and tracking aswell, thats not how the game meant to be played.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Alex on Saturday, November 24, 2012, 23:42:14 PM
I say take the honor out and tracking aswell, thats not how the game meant to be played.
This has been discussed ever since the project launched. Unfortunately nothing ever gets done. :P
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: @xe on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 02:57:43 AM
So you want to remove the honor of some of the most active servers on the list, yes that makes sense.

If you are after a game with out the mods go and play COD or something, there has always been FC in this game and there will always be FC

The introduction of the MOD servers just allows popular servers to run when an admin is not available to force, why take away a part of the game that most people enjoy, you don't like them don't play on them no one makes you.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: wickid on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 03:10:21 AM
So you want to remove the honor of some of the most active servers on the list, yes that makes sense.

If you are after a game with out the mods go and play COD or something, there has always been FC in this game and there will always be FC

The introduction of the MOD servers just allows popular servers to run when an admin is not available to force, why take away a part of the game that most people enjoy, you don't like them don't play on them no one makes you.

ain't that the truth

some 1 always whinning about something ahh,

best advice dont like foreclass servers dont play in em , pretty cut & dry
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Pegesus on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 04:30:11 AM
best advice dont like foreclass servers dont play in em , pretty cut & dry

x2
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 07:30:23 AM
yes, that's the fastest way to get back to 10 players, for sure.
so please, let the players choose by itself what the would like to play. there are a lot of different kind of servers out there to choose and - as you can see - it works very fine.
some like this, some like others. that's because we are human and not roboters  :idea:
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: JonnyM on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 07:50:34 AM
I think its ok to use modded servers but not to get honor and tracking on them.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: @xe on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 08:10:17 AM
Why is hospital server so popular?

Do you think it is just that it is a fantastic map or maybe because points are easier to come by on that map?

Points is not the reason modded servers are more popular or to be blunt why our pipe server is so popular, it is because people get a choice of weapons, they like the fact they can play with a different weapon each round and the weapon options are only those that are in the game right now.

I don't see why we or anyone else should be penalized for giving people what they want and everything we provide on the server is above board and legal.

Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Koden on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 08:25:58 AM
Why is hospital server so popular?

Do you think it is just that it is a fantastic map or maybe because points are easier to come by on that map?

Points is not the reason modded servers are more popular or to be blunt why our pipe server is so popular, it is because people get a choice of weapons, they like the fact they can play with a different weapon each round and the weapon options are only those that are in the game right now.

I don't see why we or anyone else should be penalized for giving people what they want and everything we provide on the server is above board and legal.

Other games are balanced through weapons being different in features, AA is balanced on teams because you play it in a more tactical way (because you only have 1 "life" for each match). However if the question is about randomizing the weapon preserving the amount of single weapons that the mission is featured with, maybe i think even Jonny would agree with that. You can't just take the control out of the match except for a very random casual fun match, if you want some mess with plenty of rpg's or m203's flying around (which might fit on a Call of duty scenario but on this game it's just a plain mess).
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Pegesus on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 08:40:09 AM
This argument has been around since modded servers appeared in AA and its one that will never end.
People like to play on mod servers because its fun for them, every round is different.
As someone said before, take away mod servers you take away alot of players from the game that like to play that style.
84 players online right now and only 24 are on mod servers
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: eKC0mm on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
I say take the honor out and tracking aswell, thats not how the game meant to be played.

Amen brother. People don't play AA for the old school enjoyment of the game. They play because the like 203's, automatic firing and acogs all on the same weapon. Losers fo sho, but that's how they have fun. And sadly that's what keeps this game playable.

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best advice dont like foreclass servers dont play in em , pretty cut & dry

Yeah just go shoot a wall or something in an empty server. Because people will actually join you if you play in a non FC server. The only way to enjoy a full server is to play with nobs who like FC. The end. Specially now that all the decent comp players are gone. All hope for the old school AA as it was intended are gone.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
only 2 mod servers with ppl on it,  others are the regular ones, move to Europe problem solved.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: eKC0mm on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
No Americas Army in America. Irony.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
No Americas Army in America. Irony.
+1 lol, I blame CoD's / BF's :)
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Pegesus on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:32:15 AM
Amen brother. People don't play AA for the old school enjoyment of the game. They play because the like 203's, automatic firing and acogs all on the same weapon. Losers fo sho, but that's how they have fun. And sadly that's what keeps this game playable.
Slightly contradictive argument  ;)

No one is forcing you to play on fc/modded servers. non modded servers currently out number modded.
Comp players left the game because there is no competition left in AA
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: eKC0mm on Sunday, November 25, 2012, 09:39:01 AM
No one is forcing you to play on fc/modded servers. non modded servers currently out number modded.

Your right ill just go play in some polish server with 150 ping.

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Comp players left the game because there is no competition left in AA

Competitions only present when there's good players around. You're correct.

Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, November 26, 2012, 04:03:53 AM
i am still thinking that you should not stop the modded servers from tracking and honor. i mean, you should define the part of modded. for sure it should not be allowed to increase the factor of having honors, but others, why not?

there are many servers out there, very different ones. by myself, i dont like respawn, flying and that crap. but others do, so what and why try to stop that?

and to have a lot of points - if you are looking for that and not for a nice fight - you can go to the "official" mAAp Square. win one round and you have at least 120 honor points.

and to have less points - go to Mountain Pass. there you can play hours for not more than 1000 points.

so leave the world a bit more by itselfs, do not make obstacles or bans. just let it like it is  :up:
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: mii2.YOshii on Monday, November 26, 2012, 06:19:39 AM
fuk of with this mod servers and keep everything tracked and honor
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, November 26, 2012, 08:03:31 AM
My opinion is still active- modded servers = untracked.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Ganja on Monday, November 26, 2012, 08:33:30 AM
Well it's easy to distinguish the competitive players from the others.

Why do you guys want to untrack them if you don't play on them? So they can't get high ratio (why would they even get higher ratio?) So you're still one of the bests players? I don't get it.

I like putting first the milk and then the cacao in my chocolate. I got a friend who puts the cacao first. One of us uses the cacao in a different way it was supposed to be used. So what? I mean both are possible and they are compatibler in the meaning that there are modded servers and oldscool servers.

The number of AA players is increasing. Don't change anything now or we'll make a big loss.
Just my point of view anyway

Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: [Majestic]tidididi on Monday, November 26, 2012, 08:36:40 AM
In the past there were not any modded servers, with kiddie weapon pick. Everyone was happy.

X player like urban with RPG or 203. Then he join normal server. 0-10 --> "cheater, hacker, tweaker".
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Mixk on Monday, November 26, 2012, 09:22:28 AM
It don't make a tinkers damn if no one is on a non modded server and you have to get people to join. So what, just do it if you really want to play non mod. Do you really think our modded server gets people to join it on its own? Well it don't, myself or who ever will get on there or any of the other three servers, one of which is no mods by the way, and wonder around shooting walls or blowing myself up like a nut till people join. It's a game and one I enjoy. I could see taking honor and what have you away if the modded servers were giving out exaggerated scores and kills or the modded weapons did not perform as they are intended to but none of that is the case.  There are a few things about modded and forceclass servers that I don't like but that is my opinion and  in the end I really don't care as long as I am having fun and the major majority of visitors have fun also. A lot of the people that play on our server I have played with for years and enjoy the game and conversation. Well that's my two cents worth, love me, hate me that's fine I just feel like people are trying to beat a dying horse over this.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Yahoo on Monday, November 26, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
Then he join normal server. 0-10 --> "cheater, hacker, tweaker".



Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Goncalo on Monday, November 26, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
death to forceclass servers!
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Spanky on Monday, November 26, 2012, 12:32:11 PM
I like putting first the milk and then the cacao in my chocolate.

That is utter blasphemy!
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: marten77 on Monday, November 26, 2012, 17:23:04 PM
death to forceclass servers!

Tbh the game only doesent consist of competitive players there are also players who play it for pubbing and enjoy forceclassing so taking FC away isnt a solution
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: @xe on Monday, November 26, 2012, 20:27:36 PM
Lets just put the mod servers aside for a bit, FC servers have been around longer than some of these pathetic maps that no one plays, it is a part of the game and always has been so how can you say they need to be removed.

Lets solve the issue all together and just remove honor from the game, then you won't get the hospital noobs just playing to increase there honor.

I think this whole argument is pointless, FC and mods don't effect those that don't play on them, and if you think they are taking players from your servers you are wrong, we have 2 modded servers but only 1 remains busy all day and that is the pipe server yet the other server can play what ever map you want.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Alex on Monday, November 26, 2012, 21:53:10 PM
Lets just put the mod servers aside for a bit, FC servers have been around longer than some of these pathetic maps that no one plays, it is a part of the game and always has been so how can you say they need to be removed.

Lets solve the issue all together and just remove honor from the game, then you won't get the hospital noobs just playing to increase there honor.

I think this whole argument is pointless, FC and mods don't effect those that don't play on them, and if you think they are taking players from your servers you are wrong, we have 2 modded servers but only 1 remains busy all day and that is the pipe server yet the other server can play what ever map you want.
It would be to encourage people to play the game the way it was intended. It wouldn't be taking modded servers away. You could still play in modded servers, it just wouldn't count towards your honor.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: krIz+ on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 03:35:30 AM
yeap taking honor and tracking, good solution
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 03:52:07 AM
Modded servers aren't necceseraly easyer damnit. You pick the weapon you like the most, thats the fuking point about modded server. You play the game the way you want to, thats why people like it.

The fact that people call u hacker, cheater etc didi has nothing to do with mods :D

Maybe just lower the points on modded servers so u have to play longer bur don't stop traking em, that would be stupid decision
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: @xe on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 04:12:23 AM
It would be to encourage people to play the game the way it was intended. It wouldn't be taking modded servers away. You could still play in modded servers, it just wouldn't count towards your honor.

Why does this matter what other people like to play, as long as the points we give are with in the rules who cares what we play.

Lets get to the truth of all this, we have a limited number of players and you have trouble getting enough players on your servers because they are playing FC and modded servers so you want to take the honor to force them to play on your servers to get points for honor.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 04:29:42 AM
no or lower honors on modded servers? - wow!!

then you have to cut off the mAAp Maps as Square one is first. why?
log on square, go on one side, wait, change the side - uuups 120 honors are yours. do that for one hours by yourself and you got 2000 honors at least (i never did that, i hate that at all, but some are doing so).

so, before moving out modded servers on tracking an honors, fix things like that on "regular" servers please.
and again: do so and go on with stopping modded servers and you will loose more then the half of aa2 players in a very short time. so don't do that, wouldn't be good.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 05:13:15 AM
Lets get to the truth of all this, we have a limited number of players and you have trouble getting enough players on your servers because they are playing FC and modded servers so you want to take the honor to force them to play on your servers to get points for honor.
Title: Re: Forceclass servers need to be ..
Post by: BiG_SerGiO on Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 11:49:38 AM
We will think about this in the future, no need to discuss it more for now. Just keep playing the game and invite your friends back guys ;)