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Title: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: zombax on Sunday, March 29, 2015, 17:04:20 PM
Last month I was playing on SWISS Extraction server when some watnc members joined, all under their 2nd account. I suddenly got perma banned for no reason at all by some coward. Just got insta ban from every SWISS server and other servers aswell... Without a single word being said. He also stole my name to teamkill players on hosp. That one was funny tho :style: :style:

I dont know how they got admin powers on those servers and why we let some kids rule this game and ruin the fun out of it.
But I know if there's a rotten apple in the basket, u better do something about it and quickly.

Some watnc member apologized to me, after all it was only for fun heh but Iam still banned on alot of servers. I tried to fix the situation, sending pm's to Merlin but every admin out there thinks Iam ganja now smh. That same ganja who finally get the attention he was looking for years :up: :up:  can't simply enjoy the game, just needs his dose of drama and provocation on every server he joins.

I hate posting on the forums and complaining but I have no other choice than to report this shitty situation. Please unban me and take action against admin abuse and drama hoes. 50 players base game is fragile, don't let 2 random kids ruin all the fine work devs did.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Sunday, March 29, 2015, 17:52:31 PM
Hey Zombax way do we not see you more here  lol new guy in forum our  banned friend  ch0rizo;  http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/806356/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/806356/)   
Has got to a name like you Zombax  !! issent that a not a coincidence  and it looks like merlin was possitieve that this guy is Ganja  . Now i am thinking you are to Ganja the guy above yes  you lol . I hope assist will do somthing about this . its difficult for a good admin to pick out the bad guys that also find spontaneously this way of communication.  so Ganja thx for your inputh assist ?!!!!
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Ganja on Sunday, March 29, 2015, 18:04:05 PM
I think this guy from the original post is Ganja to be honest
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Sunday, March 29, 2015, 18:04:19 PM
Hey Zombax way do we not see you more here  lol new guy in forum our  banned friend  ch0rizo;  http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/806356/ (http://battletracker.com/playerstats/aao/806356/)   
Has got to a name like you Zombax  !! issent that a not a coincidence  and it looks like merlin was possitieve that this guy is Ganja  . Now i am thinking you are to Ganja the guy above yes  you lol . I hope assist will do somthing about this . its difficult for a good admin to pick out the bad guys that also find spontaneously this way of communication.  so Ganja thx for your inputh assist ?!!!!
I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but are you saying this guy is Ganja?
Not everyone from Belgium is Ganja for god's sake.

If you are, then I can assure you with 100% confidence that he is not.

And even if it were Ganja, what do you think we should do? Hell what are you implying we should punish him for? I've yet to see a single valid argument.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: zombax on Monday, March 30, 2015, 09:29:42 AM
I posted this before I got your answer Merlin, got banned on your servers by some watnc member. I wonder who gave internet magic powers to those kids.

Name stealing has also to be punished, and you should quit protecting the ones causing trouble everywhere.

We are here only to play and have fun, beef can happen but no1 joins this game to see drama and deal with kids whole day. You'll only see your game dying faster than expected. Get your head out of the sand please
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: -Rui on Monday, March 30, 2015, 10:07:10 AM
How would anyone steal an account? 
Wouldn't one need to know the password to enter with your name?
Or even how would they ban you in a swiss server?
Is that even possible?
and... why?
...so many questions...
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, March 30, 2015, 10:14:15 AM
How would anyone steal an account? 
Wouldn't one need to know the password to enter with your name?
Or even how would they ban you in a swiss server?
Is that even possible?
and... why?
...so many questions...
I believe he's talking about someone stealing his name not his account.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, March 30, 2015, 12:51:58 PM
ok, now I have to say a big sorry to zombax. I really did invest about 2 hours today to search all the possibilities around that case - and I was wrong. I am really sorry about - and as I told you at bt, you can send me your address and i will send you a six pack of beer or what else you like because I did make this mistake.

I did find that you are

Code: [Select]
36ca07b4826e943252c034653338d814 http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=806356
d3cc15e4f607bdf44d4389d96a5ad6f5 http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=476678
4dc4bad4eee28376605900357ff3197a http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=593450

the ban will be lifted within 24 hours
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Ganja on Monday, March 30, 2015, 13:06:20 PM
ok, now I have to say a big sorry to zombax. I really did invest about 2 hours today to search all the possibilities around that case - and I was wrong. I am really sorry about - and as I told you at bt, you can send me your address and i will send you a six pack of beer or what else you like because I did make this mistake.

I did find that you are

Code: [Select]
36ca07b4826e943252c034653338d814 http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=806356
d3cc15e4f607bdf44d4389d96a5ad6f5 http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=476678
4dc4bad4eee28376605900357ff3197a http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayernameHistory&pid=593450

the ban will be lifted within 24 hours

Can I have beer too? I think you confuse me for someone else
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, March 30, 2015, 13:36:56 PM
next I will analyze is you. if I do a mistake then, sure you can have a six pack too.
but I don't think I will make a fault two times in that short time.
you really have a lot accounts ganja, guess the hell it will fill up my banfile ... :)
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Koden on Monday, March 30, 2015, 14:16:00 PM
next I will analyze is you. if I do a mistake then, sure you can have a six pack too.
but I don't think I will make a fault two times in that short time.
you really have a lot accounts ganja, guess the hell it will fill up my banfile ... :)

Hey hey i'm Ganja aswell!! :D :D
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, March 30, 2015, 14:41:17 PM
sorry Koden, no time for you :D
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Koden on Monday, March 30, 2015, 14:53:56 PM
sorry Koden, no time for you :D

Dang, no six-packs for Kodon :(

Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Monday, March 30, 2015, 14:58:56 PM
sorry :(
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 00:30:30 AM
So is ganja ban from your servers????  He seems cool in game and from little chat I had with him on ts.. .we all trash talk in game. So hopefully this can be resolved if this is the case he's ban
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 01:08:23 AM
So is ganja ban from your servers????  He seems cool in game and from little chat I had with him on ts.. .we all trash talk in game. So hopefully this can be resolved if this is the case he's ban
Yes, currently, Ganja is banned from all SWISS servers. For what reason, I don't know.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 07:57:01 AM
Yes I am but like the title says, cut the bullshit already. Believe it or not even I am getting tired of this.

I guess the reason for the high amount of haters is because of the trashtalking in game, and the arrogancy. If you can't get over it in a war game to be trashtalked a little bit, then there's something wrong IMO.

I don't need to get unbanned from SWISS or PUF, got tired of playing Extraction and SF border was never my thing so no worries.

I'll do my best to ignore every attempt to make me react ;) Wish me luck
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 08:21:49 AM
To be honest, it feels to me that people hate on those who play a lot.

Recently I've seen a lot of hate towards Spawn666 on the shoutbox and he plays 10h/day.
I see a corrolation there.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: zombax on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 09:38:29 AM
Teddy I can’t help you right now. Maybe you should create a new topic to ask SWISS to unban ganja as it seems to be your only concern here. And I heard alot of complains about spawn's behaviour too, since day one. Ofc kids who play 10 hrs a day will get full retard and can lose it. If alot of players complain, listen to feedback man.
 
Even Adrien got bored of himself lmao. Recognizing that you’re a giant AH is a good starting point for you to grow up I guess. Me think you still need a few good slaps in the face http://madamenoire.com/40373/8-reasons-to-spank-your-kids/ (http://madamenoire.com/40373/8-reasons-to-spank-your-kids/)  But you’re right, we must all accept and deal with annoying cunts in this game.

My problem is solved if Iam unbanned on every server. Thanks for your help Merlin and you can send my beers to ganja so this whole drama scene ends up peacefully.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 10:40:44 AM
I did puth it first on the shoutbox but it fits better here :Shoutbox

Vanokenow [AAO25]

Its normal in live that you can't live whit idears ore behavior from other people / kids . If they don't grow up ore did get all from ther parents its strong possible that people how you say get affection ore react whit negatieve inpuls . I did that last sunday becose i realy was sure Ganja will try whit one of his multiple accounts . And i did get info that he was in. I see thise days to muts ganja and no understanding from Assist . If we in assist som clans have one in team assist ganja would never get in the assist group becose we see a other ganja than assist sees. Meaby somthing to think about we all want to led grow this but than with the right people that represets us. Thx a good clan m8 from =puf= and i do understand merlin 100 %

Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 10:57:02 AM
If you run a server you dont need a reason to ban a player. I banned 3000 and for many different reasons. SSome of them are still here and they would be reband right now if I had a server. Just becuase of there attitude.
If theres 200 player base here I would be banning about 40 stright off. My server my rules end of story. I would not be in here explianing anything to anyone why I did what I did. I know I banned ganjs and a few of his clan. I also know I banned most of the campeing def whores. There still here And i would reban them here in about 10 seconds of starting a server. I banned for many reasons One guy ever made it back in. Suck it up your banned tata. Thats your explianation right there. Banned. My new server will be called the life ban server :) Coming soon. Camping abusers dont even walk in there.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 11:11:28 AM
I also do put this one in here, otherwise it would get lost :)

[SWISS]Falcon 53m [ASSIST]

i am done with my searching now. and it is not personal at all. there are 3 players involved. and i do have a reason why i did ban these 3 players. you can pm me with a good reason and i will send you the proof of it. now for me its closed, banned and over. only 3 players on our servers, this is not that much - but over 40 accounts from those 3 players are listed, used by them (that much about having only 1 account - evern old ones should be blocked - only 1 is enough to be used i guess

and as always, we try really hard to give all players a certain "service" to play. and fair play is one of it.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
I see thise days to muts ganja and no understanding from Assist . If we in assist som clans have one in team assist ganja would never get in the assist group becose we see a other ganja than assist sees. Meaby somthing to think about we all want to led grow this but than with the right people that represets us


Assist admins don't have knowledge of what is going in the game, they barely play the game so in my wide eyes I don't see the point even speaking to assist ever about inside the game from now.

Somehow, teddy speaks and responds to questions that he has no clue at. His at every thread, and the point his making doesn't make sense, it's not even helping. Teddy in my eyes became admin too soon and he really does not have that much experience yet he the one that talks the most. The more you talk for ganja teddy the more ass licking you do, and it doesn't get past us simply without having a notice on that. Maybe you think it's not ass licking, but defending for sure. Another point is, teddy, the reasons were stated yet I see another crack where you are bad at administrating. Either watch and laugh and don't be stupid replying because it just makes you look stupider. You make fool of yourself without noticing that.

So back to ganja, yes his hypocrite and paranoid at the same time. His after all 19 years old, maybe younger or little older but his mind set is still a kid's. It;s internet so Ganja very well knows how people act on internet. His not going to be a nice boy all the time, now he starts his bad behaviour spree. Ganja coming with his buddies to ruin the game for others with their multiple accounts, yet WE WILL NEVER see Ganja's other accounts deleted because his in Respected Board and I would like to point out a question which he never answered what kind of dedication he has put over the others. Since he said he has done more than Vanoke I am very curious to know, and the answer takes long to answer. Everyone has two faces, even Ganja, if you can't believe the words people say on forum you not deserved to be here.

It's just a shame that Ganja now is one of the top members and to take him down after all that behaviour is hard. Don't worry, soon I will buy new pc, I will get new account and play on your server all day I want, just please don't track me down with your powers.

Well said Vanoke, it will simply go unnoticed tho.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 13:10:11 PM
Ganja did do " one dick a day if i remember well
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 13:19:34 PM
To be honest, it feels to me that people hate on those who play a lot.

Recently I've seen a lot of hate towards Spawn666 on the shoutbox and he plays 10h/day.
I see a corrolation there.


Really i wander why he's a kick happy ban happy fuck tard.. also a racist asswipe....
Calling me a nigger Italian slave.. funny though he's from spain...

He has a god complex . He plays so much his brain is turning Into a video game....
he feels he can insult players and when they respond back. If he doesn't like there respond he will ban them
my guess he's a little child no older then 13 and has a lot of growing up to do
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 14:16:14 PM
Assist admins don't have knowledge of what is going in the game, they barely play the game so in my wide eyes I don't see the point even speaking to assist ever about inside the game from now.
Oh, I see. Your 1.5h in 30 days definitely beats my 8 hours in the last 15 days (there's no room for more sessions).
Somehow, teddy speaks and responds to questions that he has no clue at. His at every thread, and the point his making doesn't make sense, it's not even helping. Teddy in my eyes became admin too soon and he really does not have that much experience yet he the one that talks the most. The more you talk for ganja teddy the more ass licking you do, and it doesn't get past us simply without having a notice on that. Maybe you think it's not ass licking, but defending for sure. Another point is, teddy, the reasons were stated yet I see another crack where you are bad at administrating. Either watch and laugh and don't be stupid replying because it just makes you look stupider. You make fool of yourself without noticing that.
You're right. I am defending Ganja. And the reason is, as I've stated numerous times before, that I've yet to see one credible peace of evidence proving he should be banned. All I see is people crying "he ruins the game for me".
I always love how you try to make people look bad, yet fail miserably every time.
So back to ganja, yes his hypocrite and paranoid at the same time. His after all 19 years old, maybe younger or little older but his mind set is still a kid's. It;s internet so Ganja very well knows how people act on internet. His not going to be a nice boy all the time, now he starts his bad behaviour spree. Ganja coming with his buddies to ruin the game for others with their multiple accounts, yet WE WILL NEVER see Ganja's other accounts deleted because his in Respected Board and I would like to point out a question which he never answered what kind of dedication he has put over the others. Since he said he has done more than Vanoke I am very curious to know, and the answer takes long to answer. Everyone has two faces, even Ganja, if you can't believe the words people say on forum you not deserved to be here.
With your history (and I don't mean the obvious here), you really shouldn't be talking about people acting as kids. With that said, it doesn't mean he doesn't do it.
And about the accounts, you need to get it through your head that EVERYONE who had more than 1 account prior to the 1 account per PC rule can have all of their accounts. NOT ONE second account has been banned that existed before the rule. The rule is, we don't activate new accounts for people who already have one.
As for being useful, off the top of my head: I believe you were in RM when Ganja was - as was most of the rest of the team - helping with AA3 maps' bugreports; he put a lot of time into the daily tricks; he's been useful in numerous people trying to circumvent the ban. Now, I won't begin to say I can measure this and say that it's more than Vanoke has done, but you can't either.
It's just a shame that Ganja now is one of the top members and to take him down after all that behaviour is hard. Don't worry, soon I will buy new pc, I will get new account and play on your server all day I want, just please don't track me down with your powers.
I don't get it, are you saying he's a good player and it's hard to kill him? Who has what powers? This really doesn't make much sense.
Well said Vanoke, it will simply go unnoticed tho.
I'm glad someone understands that :)

I also do put this one in here, otherwise it would get lost :)

[SWISS]Falcon 53m [ASSIST]

i am done with my searching now. and it is not personal at all. there are 3 players involved. and i do have a reason why i did ban these 3 players. you can pm me with a good reason and i will send you the proof of it. now for me its closed, banned and over. only 3 players on our servers, this is not that much - but over 40 accounts from those 3 players are listed, used by them (that much about having only 1 account - evern old ones should be blocked - only 1 is enough to be used i guess

and as always, we try really hard to give all players a certain "service" to play. and fair play is one of it.
You yourself have more than one account - hell your shoutbox post was from your other account, so I don't see why you're complaining.
And can you imagine how much work it would be to comb through literally thousands of accounts on Assist to see which one was used by one person? And no, you can't really automate it, otherwise we'd say I'm the same person as Dialects and you're the same person as Natalia.
Teddy I can’t help you right now. Maybe you should create a new topic to ask SWISS to unban ganja as it seems to be your only concern here. And I heard alot of complains about spawn's behaviour too, since day one. Ofc kids who play 10 hrs a day will get full retard and can lose it. If alot of players complain, listen to feedback man.
 
You're right, zombax. This thread was about you being banned and I do sometimes wander off the topic. But unless I misunderstood something (which is entirely possible), it happened because someone thought you were Ganja.
I said in my first post here that you're not. Is there anything else I can help you with?
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 14:39:25 PM
So said to hear it that we will have no backup in assist
Are we all talking to a wall .  Adleast one guy is smiling whit this words .   I will not accept him in future as a admin from this game . I also hope that assist tell him not to come into my clan and for sure BCD's as represet of assist. And the biggest cry baby is now in assist team .
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 15:12:55 PM
So said to hear it that we will have no backup in assist
Are we all talking to a wall .  Adleast one guy is smiling whit this words .   I will not accept him in future as a admin from this game . I also hope that assist tell him not to come into my clan and for sure BCD's as represet of assist. And the biggest cry baby is now in assist team .
I will assume by "him" you mean me?

I'm not crying about anything. Have no idea what you're talking about here.
And I did read all the "faults" you had written down in the We BAN too ! (http://aao25.com/forum/big-clan-day/we-ban-to!/msg87279/#msg87279) thread and I still didn't see much worthwile: Rollos made a bad joke. Ganja is trying to be helpful and you're too stubborn to understand that. When you became admin on the official server for BCD there were admins on it before that.

With all that said, I don't really care if you "accept me" as admin from this game.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: =IGC=-=W!CK!D on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 15:13:09 PM
i still say ganja is a cool cat, haven't really seen him do anything but try to help people
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 16:08:06 PM
Teddy about who are we talking now all the time.  You are welcome  .you do your best on your way . We do it to, try to get a good undergrown for this game
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 16:10:37 PM
Teddy about who are we talking now all the time.  You are welcome  .you do your best on your way . We do it to, try to get a good undergrown for this game
Well then you're misunderstanding something. Ganja is NOT and admin of Assist.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 16:24:41 PM
i dont use my second account for playing. you can ban that one NOW - DO IT FUCK!!!
AND ALL THE OTHERS TOO. GET THAT IN YOU HEAD NOW!

i knew you will come with that shit teddy, sorry, this is boring now. stop that multiple accounts, i do use mine only to start the servers and to control them. nothing more. and i can do this for sure with only one account. a bit more work, but less then now when only one account is left.

so cut them now, really. you should start making facts not only wind.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 16:25:06 PM
Well then you're misunderstanding something. Ganja is NOT and admin of Assist.
roger that he has icon beta tester and is in the groupe from assist i dit hear he bring idear in to reduse admin rights and to cute in servers like we have 20 now .and that whit his negatieve background ( experians/ clan friends )we have of him ,tells me he got influence on other people . And ganja is saying this not whitout thinking he creating controll .
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:03:42 PM
i dont use my second account for playing. you can ban that one NOW - DO IT FUCK!!!
AND ALL THE OTHERS TOO. GET THAT IN YOU HEAD NOW!

i knew you will come with that shit teddy, sorry, this is boring now. stop that multiple accounts, i do use mine only to start the servers and to control them. nothing more. and i can do this for sure with only one account. a bit more work, but less then now when only one account is left.

so cut them now, really. you should start making facts not only wind.

You obviously didn't actually read my post. Whatever, vent away.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Bart! on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:15:52 PM
I know Ganja and rollos can be annoying sometimes, and I also told them that they sometimes are.

That does not mean I can't just speak with them, and that they should be banned.

I think people are overreacting here, that's the main issue.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Southofheaven on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:30:53 PM
Well i saíd that i wouldnt speack anymore on this but i have to. This is getting out of control. I think no one is saying to ban ganja from aa. After All this i guess what most of us are saying is to admins in the game to give im some warming about his atitude whit many players, specialy new ones that we saw him giving a hard time. Do something whit the number of accounts. I thought it was one for computer i dont Belive that he has 1 computer for each account. We are thankfull for what you guys are doing for the game and we dont want any problems in this small community that we got here but dont you think that só many people complaining about this is proof enought? And many more that told me the same on ts that Usualy dont speack on the fórum. This aint the right way make the game bigger and call people to join. =PUF= SWISS HT and other clans started BCD to call people out at least once a week to have some fun and really have something diferent and there are others that really just want to ruin that. Just hope you do the right thing about this. I know we did.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:35:51 PM
I know Ganja and rollos can be annoying sometimes, and I also told them that they sometimes are.

That does not mean I can't just speak with them, and that they should be banned.

I think people are overreacting here, that's the main issue.
we banned them ,assist will do good if they gif ganja no privilage .just let  him play he gifs no good exemple for this game .
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:42:59 PM
Well i saíd that i wouldnt speack anymore on this but i have to. This is getting out of control. I think no one is saying to ban ganja from aa. After All this i guess what most of us are saying is to admins in the game to give im some warming about his atitude whit many players, specialy new ones that we saw him giving a hard time. Do something whit the number of accounts. I thought it was one for computer i dont Belive that he has 1 computer for each account. We are thankfull for what you guys are doing for the game and we dont want any problems in this small community that we got here but dont you think that só many people complaining about this is proof enought? And many more that told me the same on ts that Usualy dont speack on the fórum. This aint the right way make the game bigger and call people to join. =PUF= SWISS HT and other clans started BCD to call people out at least once a week to have some fun and really have something diferent and there are others that really just want to ruin that. Just hope you do the right thing about this. I know we did.
I might have misunderstood some of Vanoke's posts (which probably happens often) so I thought he was implying Assist admins should understand that Ganja is horrible and should be banned from the whole game.

But once again, I don't know how many times I've said this:
You can have all the account you had before the 1 account per pc rule was introduced.
You can't have a new account if you already have an account on your computer.

The reason we have this rule is so it's easier to ban (and keep banned) cheaters.

Not one account has been banned simply because it's not the only account.
Think about it, if we had to go through thousands, probably tens of thousands of account to see which ones are linked, it would take so much time I don't even wanna think about it.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 17:56:10 PM
I might have misunderstood some of Vanoke's posts (which probably happens often) so I thought he was implying Assist admins should understand that Ganja is horrible and should be banned from the whole game.

But once again, I don't know how many times I've said this:
You can have all the account you had before the 1 account per pc rule was introduced.
You can't have a new account if you already have an account on your computer.

The reason we have this rule is so it's easier to ban (and keep banned) cheaters.

Not one account has been banned simply because it's not the only account.
Think about it, if we had to go through thousands, probably tens of thousands of account to see which ones are linked, it would take so much time I don't even wanna think about it.
  If you find one line of me that ganja shute be banned out of this game you will get a six pak beer to . i did alway talk about that he is not a good exemple for beiing a "admin" ore whatever Beta tester he is in this game. don t put a finger in his ass he likes it.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 18:27:53 PM
  If you find one line of me that ganja shute be banned out of this game you will get a six pak beer to . i did alway talk about that he is not a good exemple for beiing a "admin" ore whatever Beta tester he is in this game. don t put a finger in his ass he likes it.
This was the line that had me thinking that:
If we in assist som clans have one in team assist ganja would never get in the assist group
But I suppose it's a simple misunderstanding. No harm, no foul. I guess you meant the RM group whereas I thought you meant the community as a whole.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: ArmyAntiCheat on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 18:37:25 PM
This was the line that had me thinking that:But I suppose it's a simple misunderstanding. No harm, no foul. I guess you meant the RM group whereas I thought you meant the community as a whole.

See teddy, you don't understand or misunderstand..., this way making into deeper argument, just dont post if you not sure.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 19:25:33 PM
no need for assist admins to ban ganja and some of his clan members. no one did ever says that.
we (the server admins) are mature enough to do it by our self if we have proof to do so. really no need from assist.

and also this beta tester icon do disturb me. because its not given to all of the volunteers doing a good job. its only one guy who have it. and this is a bad sign for a community. specialy when it goes to a player like him.

and I don't ask for myself. I don't need that and I don't want that. but you all from assist admins club should think about what kind of sign it show up.

good night everybody. a new day has come, lets see what it brings to all of us.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 01:26:28 AM
no need for assist admins to ban ganja and some of his clan members. no one did ever says that.
we (the server admins) are mature enough to do it by our self if we have proof to do so. really no need from assist.
Like I said, I misunderstood Vanoke's post, that's all.

As for the icon, as I've said before, I don't really know who gave it to him and what for exactly.
I remember when I had the beta tester icon, though. From February 2013 to spring of 2014 and I remember Sergio was the one responisible in the end (I asked him :) ).
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 02:01:55 AM
Seeeerrrrrrgiiiiooooooo!!!!!!!! This was not oke . Inform your self befor you gif a guy privilations . This time alot knows its not the one we wanne see . Sorry to say .
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 03:20:08 AM
Seeeerrrrrrgiiiiooooooo!!!!!!!! This was not oke . Inform your self befor you gif a guy privilations . This time alot knows its not the one we wanne see . Sorry to say .
Read again. I didn't save Sergio gave the icon to Ganja. I said he gave it to me 2 years ago.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 04:30:30 AM
Read again. I didn't save Sergio gave the icon to Ganja. I said he gave it to me 2 years ago.
  i see now yes but ok we can ask to .:)
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Southofheaven on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 04:59:18 AM
i really just hope that this is the last topic about this. My hopes are that ganja and others respect and behave other players, all player, not saying to be an angel but respect i think its the only thing we all like and want. And finaly that the AA admins listen a bit more to server admins, guys that manage servers like Merlin and Vanoke and others about what is going on in the game, maybe talk every 15 days a bit on ts or in here about things that happen and could happen in the game. time to improve the game not have arguments like this that eventualy will make people come less and less. GG´s Noobs :)
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 09:22:15 AM
To make things clear I have used only 2 different account in the last year or maybe even 2 years, so I don't understand what's the big deal about "all the accounts".

Merlin just explained why he has a second account, so why isn't it ok if I have one for the same reason? Maybe some of you knew it, but 99% will learn something new here:

You can not play in tournament mode if you are admin on the server. So if you have no option for "spectator admin" like it is the case for the Official Servers, then you have to set up the server as serveradmin (which is my noobkiller123 account) but then you will need a second account to be able to play (which is my ganja account).

The fact that you all think I use 50 different accounts, shows how hard this "case about me" is being exagerated.

I also read that I give beginners hardtime? This is funny because I think beginners love me more then oldschoolers. Ingame I try my best to teach them things, not being mad when I get shot by a beginner etc etc. Like it was mentionned before there is no proof. Only this 'sectarial believe' between PUF SWISS and fanboys to 'ban ganja because we have proof that he is the devil but we can not share proof'.

Like I said in an earlier post I never asked for an icon so it's not really fair to blame me for it ...

So please every just stop dreaming about me at night. Don't worry SWISS, PUF and fanboys I won't annoy you on your server.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: zombax on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 09:25:49 AM
Teddy, Iam trying in english but you don’t seem to understand jack of the situation. I had closed the subject but will try for a last time :

All started with a ban on SWISS servers, gaven by WATNC just for fun.
I kept my mouth shut about name stealing AND admin abuse from watnc guys (on others servers ?) only because rollos appologized to me.
You do understand now that this whole drama began with WATNC not with SWISS right ?
Did you help punish those or even understand what Iam saying here ? I don’t think so.

Now leave this forum for a second and go to bt. You see my name in the the top 5 players list? Well then can I get your attention or it doesnt mean jack to you ? Because you keep defending some kid and won’t listen to your best players in this game. This is plain trolling.

YOU SAYING that everyone is crying about ganja’s behaviour in game, yet you don’t see any reason why he deserves a ban. Maybe there’s a hint there ? Tho I would personally only mute ganja if I had a server, problem solved.

Now I see that this game only needs a few servers managed by one or two admins. Small players base game needs a new order. You cant let 3 angry kiddos have the keys to the whole game. What we need is a few official servers with some clever adults managing them, if we still can find that in here.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Ganja on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 09:30:58 AM
Now I see that this game only needs a few servers managed by one or two admins. Small players base game needs a new order. You cant let 3 angry kiddos have the keys to the whole game. What we need is a few official servers with some clever adults managing them, if we still can find that in here.

This is true. And I have mentionned it before it's stupid to have 50 servers like SWISS and PUF, and that's one of the reasons they don't like me because they would lose their 'power' over Assist ... Even Vanoke admitted it in his post

Oh and btw you're not forced to say WATNC GUYS when it's only rollos who stole your name and whatsoever. I and the others have nothing to do with it ...
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 10:08:10 AM
Teddy, Iam trying in english but you don’t seem to understand jack of the situation. I had closed the subject but will try for a last time :

All started with a ban on SWISS servers, gaven by WATNC just for fun.
I kept my mouth shut about name stealing AND admin abuse from watnc guys (on others servers ?) only because rollos appologized to me.
You do understand now that this whole drama began with WATNC not with SWISS right ?
Did you help punish those or even understand what Iam saying here ? I don’t think so.
It seemed from your first post as well as from this one that you weren't really bothered with watnc as they appologized to you. As far as "punishing" someone, I hope you understand why that needs actual proof.
Now leave this forum for a second and go to bt. You see my name in the the top 5 players list? Well then can I get your attention or it doesnt mean jack to you ? Because you keep defending some kid and won’t listen to your best players in this game. This is plain trolling.
I really couldn't care less how many kills you have on battletracker. All players should be treated equally.
And again, I've seen all you've said, but at one place you say the problem is watnc and at the next place you say since they appologized, it's not such a big deal.
YOU SAYING that everyone is crying about ganja’s behaviour in game, yet you don’t see any reason why he deserves a ban. Maybe there’s a hint there ? Tho I would personally only mute ganja if I had a server, problem solved.
I'm not saying everyone's crying about Ganja - in all honesty it's just a handful of people.

PS:
To make things clear I have used only 2 different account in the last year or maybe even 2 years, so I don't understand what's the big deal about "all the accounts".
That's not strictly true. The accounts you gave to noofy and zork as well as this.is.right all fall within a year. Granted the last uses go 8 months back.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
This is true. And I have mentionned it before it's stupid to have 50 servers like SWISS and PUF, and that's one of the reasons they don't like me because they would lose their 'power' over Assist ... Even Vanoke admitted it in his post

Oh and btw you're not forced to say WATNC GUYS when it's only rollos who stole your name and whatsoever. I and the others have nothing to do with it ...
The only reason we have so many maps running is 1- to led see to the outsite world that ther are more than 30 maps in this game. 2 -  we are a big clan not all do wanne play border ore hospital. simple as it is we do it for this game not for us self. the reson we did grow the last years is becose we respect our members and gif them a good time together. .  I get nothing in cash for all my work . that is what they say in normal language .  have and gif fun  together, no shit, and listen, make a nice day, help if can,respect.     
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: -[unR]BENDAWICH on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 13:31:40 PM
Ironic that a thread titled "CUT THE DRAMA" has caused more drama......
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 14:48:54 PM
I think all of this is rather funny, if we put it in the perspective of the average peak of players being around 100 in the evening ^^ and the actual average being closer to 60/65, during the day, id bet. All of these multiple accounts are quite sad stuff tho (not talking about Merlin or Ganja).
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 14:54:37 PM
I think all of this is rather funny, if we put it in the perspective of the average peak of players being around 100 in the evening ^^ and the actual average being closer to 60/65, during the day, id bet. All of these multiple accounts are quite sad stuff tho (not talking about Merlin or Ganja).
There are 97 on at the moment. How do you measure actual average?
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 15:37:18 PM
There are 97 on at the moment. How do you measure actual average?
There are obviously ways of doing it, however I believe he was just picking a number that he fealt would be around average.
But with all the time during the day where there's barely 20 people playing, I have a feeling the real average would be even less.

EDIT: What I'm talking about is the average at any time of the day, not the average of the peak.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 15:41:45 PM
There are 97 on at the moment. How do you measure actual average?

By the amount of people that play during the day? I consider the evening for what it is, the peak of activity.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Bart! on Wednesday, April 01, 2015, 16:12:43 PM
By the amount of people that play during the day? I consider the evening for what it is, the peak of activity.
Ok, fair point, during european working time there are just max 2 servers filled up.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: zombax on Thursday, April 02, 2015, 09:17:58 AM
I really couldn't care less how many kills you have on battletracker. All players should be treated equally.
And again, I've seen all you've said, but at one place you say the problem is watnc and at the next place you say since they appologized, it's not such a big deal.
Fair enough. Just remind that honor, respect, loyalty should mean something in this very special game.


Also gotta add that I never experienced any issue on PUF servers, always good fun and respect. Big Clan Day was the best move done for this game in a while if you ask me.

And ofc watnc actually got alot of cool members, won’t spit on that.

Iam sadly running out of popcorn now, so let's all try to get along, leave bans and much spanking in the game.
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Thursday, April 02, 2015, 14:13:15 PM
To make things clear I have used only 2 different account in the last year or maybe even 2 years, so I don't understand what's the big deal about "all the accounts".

Merlin just explained why he has a second account, so why isn't it ok if I have one for the same reason? Maybe some of you knew it, but 99% will learn something new here:

You can not play in tournament mode if you are admin on the server. So if you have no option for "spectator admin" like it is the case for the Official Servers, then you have to set up the server as serveradmin (which is my noobkiller123 account) but then you will need a second account to be able to play (which is my ganja account).

The fact that you all think I use 50 different accounts, shows how hard this "case about me" is being exagerated.

I also read that I give beginners hardtime? This is funny because I think beginners love me more then oldschoolers. Ingame I try my best to teach them things, not being mad when I get shot by a beginner etc etc. Like it was mentionned before there is no proof. Only this 'sectarial believe' between PUF SWISS and fanboys to 'ban ganja because we have proof that he is the devil but we can not share proof'.

Like I said in an earlier post I never asked for an icon so it's not really fair to blame me for it ...

So please every just stop dreaming about me at night. Don't worry SWISS, PUF and fanboys I won't annoy you on your server.

if you like it.
the last one isn't the real ganja, but the others. and that long ago, the guid wasn't listed as we know today. I did check my guid with that days ago and I did see that there has been - as today - 2 id's. the one unuseful for guid ban, but the other was the same like todays guid. this one ended with (-).
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L:\aa250logs\Archiv\LogOut.txt:L:\aa250logs\Server13.log:05/30/14 17:10:14 Log: 25AssistSM: Lost Connection (slot #7) 91.178.5.4:49275 b0d5f6a99d548c5e447a3b6f37e13c4e(-) -wAtNc.Ganja`
L:\aa250logs\Archiv\LogOut.txt:L:\aa250logs\Server12.log:06/07/14 20:52:32 Log: 25AssistSM: Lost Connection (slot #10) 109.129.238.202:53755 b0d5f6a99d548c5e447a3b6f37e13c4e(-) -wAtNc.Ganja`
L:\aa250logs\Archiv\LogOut.txt:L:\aa250logs\Server13.log:06/07/14 20:56:34 Log: 25AssistSM: Lost Connection (slot #6) 109.129.238.202:60223 b0d5f6a99d548c5e447a3b6f37e13c4e(-) -wAtNc.Ganja`
L:\aa250logs\Archiv\LogOut.txt:L:\aa250logs\Server04.log:06/28/14 23:08:06 Log: 25AssistSM: Lost Connection (slot #3) 81.243.135.216:54057 b0d5f6a99d548c5e447a3b6f37e13c4e(-) -wA`tNc.Ganja
L:\aa250logs\Archiv\LogOut.txt:L:\aa250logs\Server22.log:10/31/14 16:19:12 Log: 25AssistSM: Lost Connection (slot #4) 89.98.131.174:53444 465da9969e3845e781a20b027408509c(-) -[Dm].Ganja
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Thursday, April 02, 2015, 14:16:28 PM
and I have thousand of logfile entries from you and the other 2 guys. I did checked them all by findstr /C batch mode and then I did invest about 2 hours for having the cross checks. mac address to guid, ip to name, name to mac, guid to ip and all that crap - because I made already a fault with one player. making another fault in that short time would be scary to me. and I will show all those results only on request. because I have no need to. I did proof, I know, I ban. for me ok.

and as you did say ganja, for you also not, because you don't play on those servers.

so close that now, its over
Title: Re: CUT THE DRAMA
Post by: Possessed on Thursday, April 02, 2015, 20:06:57 PM
I don't know how exactly ELiZ has set the new pb guids, but you may not relay only on them.
Anyone can request a check from US, doesnt matter who and we will list all linked accounts if nescessary.
Ppl miss aci too much eh...