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Title: Worst case scenario
Post by: Mr.Green on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 00:01:25 AM
Lets say worst case scenario, this game completely dies soon again. What can we replace it with? I mean i love this community that we build here and i think we should stick together no matter what. We've been playing this game for a long time and we are "The last of a dying breed" so i think it would be a great thing for us to remain a united community no matter what happens to the game. So what other game can we replace this with?
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 00:55:12 AM
It's a good question.

I've seen a big part of AA2 die before (even before the official auth was shut down in late 2011). People will move on. The somewhat sad part is that in new games, different people want different things. There are always attempts on keeping teams (clans) together in another game and it might even work for part of the team, but not everybody.

As for what would be a natural transition from AA, I really don't know. I've heard both good and bad things about AAPG. I've also heard good things about Insurgency. I've not played either too much myself and so I would know which to choose. Plus, there could be yet another and even better option as well.

But on a more positive note, as long as we've got people here, the game will live on, at least at the current time.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 02:19:23 AM
There isn't exactly a game that could replace this one...you could play Insurgency, AAPG or maybe Arma 3 (if your pc meets the specs) and you would probably find something you like in each of em, but they're not the same thing.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 02:24:37 AM
There isn't exactly a game that could replace this one...you could play Insurgency, AAPG or maybe Arma 3 (if your pc meets the specs) and you would probably find something you like in each of em, but they're not the same thing.
pfft.... let's just keep this one alive shall we
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: voras on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 02:38:16 AM
Ok what i see..
1- like i say to some players this game no need clans(yeah i know I am on clan).
2- nevver understand this game dieing but clan fights steel here.. why we need that? We need play all together and stop fight...
3- rpg on hospital realy sucks... ( i know i use it too) but for noob players this gun dont help feeling  happy at that map.. some part of players puting behin rpg for make other roe kick and etc..
4- some part of players want always show who is the boss and etc.. bans for eny good reason andt etc.. I think the good reason for ban is team killing or very hard bad lenguage..
5- Team speak? Sucks too some clans doing nice game with ts .. covering each other and etc( hard to explain this point what i mean. English bad)
6- bad acctitude of some part of players dont want to put names her but who playing this game knows
And etc etc
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 03:07:41 AM
5- Team speak? Sucks too some clans doing nice game with ts .. covering each other and etc( hard to explain this point what i mean. English bad)
Just let me point out: you can join their someone else's TS channel to listen what their chatting about. Unless it isn't open, and by then maybe I would be wondering aswell...

Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 03:31:16 AM
Ok what i see..
1- like i say to some players this game no need clans(yeah i know I am on clan).
2- nevver understand this game dieing but clan fights steel here.. why we need that? We need play all together and stop fight...
3- rpg on hospital realy sucks... ( i know i use it too) but for noob players this gun dont help feeling  happy at that map.. some part of players puting behin rpg for make other roe kick and etc..
4- some part of players want always show who is the boss and etc.. bans for eny good reason andt etc.. I think the good reason for ban is team killing or very hard bad lenguage..
5- Team speak? Sucks too some clans doing nice game with ts .. covering each other and etc( hard to explain this point what i mean. English bad)
6- bad acctitude of some part of players dont want to put names her but who playing this game knows
And etc etc


So you are against clans, teamwork and teamspeak because they make it too hard for others to compete. Isn't the purpose of the game to have fun and eventually kill the most enemies ? This isexactly hat a clan can give you.

Also a game shouldn't be dependent of a single weapon on a single map (RPG on Hospital shouldn't have such an influence on the game)

You're right about the drama though, but this is hat makes this game so particular too, we love and hate eachother at the same time :D
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: voras on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 03:41:55 AM
It was just my opinion dont do drama agai.. ok? I dont meean about ghosting... for exemple you are on west wing.. 3 seke guys playing together.. and they how a clan do all good. 1 come from 1 side 2  from other and get you too easy. nice team work. If they play like independent players it woould be hard for all cach each other.. maybe you understans me.. but i am not speaking in particular about seke.. it was just a.good exeple
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 03:54:44 AM
It was just my opinion dont do drama agai.. ok? I dont meean about ghosting... for exemple you are on west wing.. 3 seke guys playing together.. and they how a clan do all good. 1 come from 1 side 2  from other and get you too easy. nice team work. If they play like independent players it woould be hard for all cach each other.. maybe you understans me.. but i am not speaking in particular about seke.. it was just a.good exeple
Lol, its not exactly well written but I get your point, a funny one...so basically you mean they would make for a more "friendly" gameplay by playing as a set of independent players? As in, not playing as a team? It is a rather funny idea :P unless you mean they're stacking against other players to get an easier win...
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Ganja on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 04:03:43 AM
It was just my opinion dont do drama agai.. ok?

And this was just mine.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: ronski on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 04:11:39 AM
It was just my opinion dont do drama agai.. ok? I dont meean about ghosting... for exemple you are on west wing.. 3 seke guys playing together.. and they how a clan do all good. 1 come from 1 side 2  from other and get you too easy. nice team work. If they play like independent players it woould be hard for all cach each other.. maybe you understans me.. but i am not speaking in particular about seke.. it was just a.good exeple
Hmm how should I take this.. Thanks I guess? Yea we play together, always try to be in same team together, talk shit together, are drunk together etc...

But you're speaking in general, that's what people in ts can do. Using ts doesn't automatically mean ghosting, like you stated you're not even talking about that matter. In same team if it's reported that enemy is in west wing behind the desk ( or if you know Adi is playing and he wasn't at ambush spwan, then he's there at west wing ;) ) you can kind of surround him from both ways. It's teamwork which makes this game more interesting than playing it alone, you can discuss about various kind of stuff, you make new friends etc. This is why people should use more ts imo
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: -Vegeta- on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 06:17:44 AM
Voras I never played the game for six weeks due to a clot in both lungs which came from my leg. And the knee was smashed at indoor football. First game back you verbally attacked me. Hypocrite make any sense to you?
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: voras on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 06:45:52 AM
Well Vegeta I am sorri but you attac others I attac you.. why you can attac others and others cant do it to you.. you the bigest team killeer what i see in this game.. and you join to server not for play.. only for do shit.. so maybe if you begin be nice guy other do the same with you???
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 06:55:48 AM
Can you guys please leave personal arguments between you or against a specific player out of this thread? Green started it to talk about the "worst case scenario", not just about community issues.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: voras on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 07:09:26 AM
Hmm Koden this guy killing the servers with Tk and he always speak shit?so you baning pit but this guy who make servers emtys  and can do what he want steel here? Lol
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 07:43:59 AM
It was just my opinion dont do drama agai.. ok? I dont meean about ghosting... for exemple you are on west wing.. 3 seke guys playing together.. and they how a clan do all good. 1 come from 1 side 2  from other and get you too easy. nice team work. If they play like independent players it woould be hard for all cach each other.. maybe you understans me.. but i am not speaking in particular about seke.. it was just a.good exeple
I think everyone can understand your point. They're playing together as a team and it's therefore harder for the enemies.
However, this game is meant to emphasize teamwork and that's just what they're doing. It's exactly the kind of thing real soldiers do - if they know there's an enemy somewhere and they know that there are multiple ways to get to him that are otherwise clear, they will most definitely use the opportunity.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 12:35:04 PM
Lets say worst case scenario, this game completely dies soon again. What can we replace it with? I mean i love this community that we build here and i think we should stick together no matter what. We've been playing this game for a long time and we are "The last of a dying breed" so i think it would be a great thing for us to remain a united community no matter what happens to the game. So what other game can we replace this with?

you can go and play - as many of us - aa4 (America's Army Proving Ground). you are welcome there, and its not a baby community, it's all adult.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 14:49:45 PM
you can go and play - as many of us - aa4 (America's Army Proving Ground). you are welcome there, and its not a baby community, it's all adult.
I wish you partecipated to some "anticheat" fb groups, you'd have a slightly different opinion...
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 15:29:12 PM
:) as always i guess. but so is life
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Bart! on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 16:27:23 PM
you can go and play - as many of us - aa4 (America's Army Proving Ground). you are welcome there, and its not a baby community, it's all adult.
I already got kicked from a server again today without doing anything wrong except for killing 4 people with 1 magazine...
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Mr.Green on Tuesday, April 26, 2016, 21:26:30 PM
you can go and play - as many of us - aa4 (America's Army Proving Ground). you are welcome there, and its not a baby community, it's all adult.

I gotta get a new computer for that. Currently in process of ordering it and then i have to assemble it and then i will give AA4 a try
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 02:05:48 AM
Green, the beginning is hard as on every game. If you wish, we can show you some things to get comfortable with this new game. I am on Steam swissmerlin. call me, i'll be there. Or when i play aa2 as well, if you have any questions about Steam/aa4, do not hesitate to ask.

and it's aa4 (like on aa2), so if you jump on a server with noob admins, you could be get kicked out as Bart did say. i go often on elite^warriors server, good maps as well as on the 3rd server aa2 maps like urban, hospital vip, insurgent camp, also border and many more nice maps.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Mr.Green on Wednesday, April 27, 2016, 22:18:06 PM
Green, the beginning is hard as on every game. If you wish, we can show you some things to get comfortable with this new game. I am on Steam swissmerlin. call me, i'll be there. Or when i play aa2 as well, if you have any questions about Steam/aa4, do not hesitate to ask.

and it's aa4 (like on aa2), so if you jump on a server with noob admins, you could be get kicked out as Bart did say. i go often on elite^warriors server, good maps as well as on the 3rd server aa2 maps like urban, hospital vip, insurgent camp, also border and many more nice maps.

Merlin thank u so much for the words of comfort. When i get the new pc i will definitely give aa4 a try and u will deff be my go to person after that. thanks once again :) 
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Spanky on Thursday, April 28, 2016, 17:56:29 PM
The answer is nothing, otherwise we would have done it. People have different computers and different desires. We could move to another game but a lot of people would be lost, some couldn't play it, some wouldn't like it. AA is what it is and nothing will replace it. Those that are comfortable playing similar games have already done so for the last 5+ years (AAPG, Insurgency, ARMA, etc).
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Scorpy on Friday, April 29, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
i say vote spanky for president  :up:


wise words.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: [SWISS]Merlin on Friday, April 29, 2016, 12:30:05 PM
i did try many other games, and only aa2 was comfortable for me. but now its also - after a long long time of beta and updates - a very good game. so it is.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Friday, April 29, 2016, 12:58:38 PM
i did try many other games, and only aa2 was comfortable for me. but now its also - after a long long time of beta and updates - a very good game. so it is.
Aapg you mean? Imho the beta worked better for a good amount of reasons, but the hardware requirements for the game in both of its "shapes" are rather high, considering it is a free game (most free games do have very low requirements to start with to gather to a broader amount of people). Also, the user interface in the *final* release is ugly in comparison to the old beta, particularly the font which scales just awful if you use anything lower than native resolution, and again, it is obvious that with that hardware req plenty of people need to lower graphic options in order to play.
The game is filled with similar "minor" issues which taken alone aren't a big deal, but as a whole make for lack of refinement (and its funny, the old beta was more refined in a couple of its parts, particularly sound which worked more consistently across users). As a whole Aapg still potentially makes for a lot of fun, provided you play with a decent team and you have a decent system.

P.s. Source: 2000 hours played on the old beta + around 350 hours on the final release.
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: ELiZ on Saturday, April 30, 2016, 04:04:22 AM
If all else fails I've started converting the AA2 maps to the AAPG Engine:
http://forum.americasarmy.com/discussion/4869/all-of-the-aa2-maps#latest (http://forum.americasarmy.com/discussion/4869/all-of-the-aa2-maps#latest)

Then it's up to you the players to try and convince the AAPG Devs to close the gap in AA2 and AAPG game mechanics.

Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Bart! on Saturday, April 30, 2016, 06:48:48 AM
If all else fails I've started converting the AA2 maps to the AAPG Engine:
http://forum.americasarmy.com/discussion/4869/all-of-the-aa2-maps#latest (http://forum.americasarmy.com/discussion/4869/all-of-the-aa2-maps#latest)

Then it's up to you the players to try and convince the AAPG Devs to close the gap in AA2 and AAPG game mechanics.


We already tried, they won't
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: ronski on Saturday, April 30, 2016, 07:01:26 AM
I wish there was mac version of aa:pg....
Title: Re: Worst case scenario
Post by: Koden on Saturday, April 30, 2016, 07:08:00 AM
I wish there was mac version of aa:pg....
?
Just bootcamp windows 7, the only shortcoming might be your graphic card, but aapg usually benefits of a beefy cpu and macs usually come decently equipped (and yours is perfectly capable).