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Title: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 12:44:54 PM
Rant about what you love. I look forward to commenting :)



I love philosophy and metaphysics. All day I think about the true nature of reality and I plan on writing not only books on my philosophy and perspective, but fiction novels with metaphysical philosophy tied in. I also love meditation and meditate regularly in my free time and every night before sleep.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Jason on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 13:39:50 PM
Rant about what you love.
YOU.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 13:42:12 PM
D'awww happy valentine's day, love.

You still see John? Get his goofy-lookin' ass on AA. I don't remember his brother's name but he was pretty cool too. I think he had a brother at least, that was a loooong time ago.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 14:36:55 PM
Short & sweet:
Computers, quality audio, small engine repair, gardening.
That's all I can think of for now.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 15:12:49 PM
Old cars (sometimes motorbikes), books, my cats, a little photography. And AA :)
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 16:02:57 PM
When you find something that you love is quite rewarding to keep on doing it.

   Baseball: I have been playing basebal since i was 4 years old (istill do). is a kids game played by grown ups. is a physical and mental game at the same time.

   Computers: Loved them, is what gives me my pay check every month!

   And ofcourse girls! 8)
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 16:21:29 PM
Computers and sports. I also find some history fascinating ,mostly ancient history. Used to use photoshop a lot but I kinda lost interest in it.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Jared on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 16:24:51 PM
I love my job which is user experience designer and front end developer.

But on a non business level I love to hunt and fish, it's truely the only time I get to spend with my dad. Plus I love that I get no phone calls or email I just get to shut off from the world
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 16:56:02 PM
Responsible drug use. Definitely slowing down now, but I plan on rewarding myself with some acid after I finish this paper. I personally prefer psilocybin mushrooms but two hits of acid for $10 vs an eighth of booms for anywhere from $35 to $50 makes the decision quite easy.

I love altered states of mind and consciousness, and although I don't want to make meditation seem like something as sketchy as drug use, my interest in meditation and my interest in drug use are intertwined.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: (sic) on Thursday, February 16, 2012, 23:47:28 PM
Definitely +1 for you on that last post, Archi. I'm always interested in looking through different windows of perception - I love getting new points of view on life. Drugs have been life changing, but in a good way. They've helped me straighten my priorities out this semester, and I'm doing much better because of it. But you have to be responsible in all of your dealings with drugs.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 00:09:18 AM
Definitely +1 for you on that last post, Archi. I'm always interested in looking through different windows of perception - I love getting new points of view on life. Drugs have been life changing, but in a good way. They've helped me straighten my priorities out this semester, and I'm doing much better because of it. But you have to be responsible in all of your dealings with drugs.
I would love to know how they straightened out your priorities. If anything, i would image drugs being a big time waster. It's not really productive at all.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 17, 2012, 00:19:17 AM
IMO, "responsible" and "priorities" are different person to person.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: (sic) on Friday, February 17, 2012, 00:36:10 AM
I'd agree with you on that, spanks, and I could see how you think they're a time waster, killa. It's just that drugs have really grounded my outlook on who I am - they've helped my self esteem a lot as well as giving me the ability to just be comfortable with who I am.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 17, 2012, 00:46:55 AM
It's just that drugs have really grounded my outlook on who I am - they've helped my self esteem a lot as well as giving me the ability to just be comfortable with who I am.

I'm with Killaman on this BUT I will say in fairness of sic that nobody (even the greatest minds of the greatest scientists) really knows how the brain works. It's really tough to say how things in the brain can get altered with various chemicals, even different people have different reactions to the same thing. With all the chemicals* in the environment today slowly leeching into different groups of people with continuing generations (from the father/grandfather that was a farmer that sprayed chemicals to the mother/grandmother that took prescription medication during a pregnancy). There's just sooo many chemicals going every which way in different doses, it's really tough to figure out what "normal" is anymore. Combine these chemicals with a lack of natural selection and natural genetic variance and it's no wonder different people are wired different ways. It's entirely possible a little kick from any chemical could straighten a person out a bit.

For the record though, I still don't agree with or approve mind/conscious altering chemicals except for those that need it to function somewhat normally like those with crippling/chronic pain or cancer patients. It's a crap shoot. I wouldn't want any drug use legal but if you keep it illegal, you're just supporting drug-funded crime and a lack of standards in an underground industry.

chemicals - I use this term loosely to describe anything from prescription meds (especially those that leech/concentrate into drinking water) to street drugs to additives in food.

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Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 00:52:00 AM
I'd agree with you on that, spanks, and I could see how you think they're a time waster, killa. It's just that drugs have really grounded my outlook on who I am - they've helped my self esteem a lot as well as giving me the ability to just be comfortable with who I am.
Not to be disrespectful but it sounds like you're just trying to justify your bad habit. How can drugs help your self esteem? How can a substance make you more comfortable with who you are? Do you only like yourself when you're high? Because realistically you're only in an altered state of mind while under the influence. Not sure how it would change your views while you're not under the influence. It is possible that your views on life changed, but it's not because of the drugs.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: (sic) on Friday, February 17, 2012, 01:01:21 AM
Who's to say that drugs are bad? Isn't too much of any one thing bad? It's not that I don't like myself when I'm not high, either - I can't really explain it to someone who hasn't really tried any drugs. I think it's more along the lines of what you were saying; "my views on life have changed but not because of the drugs." I disagree with the last part - the change may have been caused indirectly by the drugs, but you can ultimately trace it back to drug use.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 01:35:05 AM
You don't know how to explain it because it really isn't explainable, which leads me to believe your new view on life is not the result of drug use in any way. If I wanted to, I could trace a lot of personality changes back to useless things. I started listening to rock and metal in the 9 grade, so therefore my high school is what changed my perspective on music. Of course that's not true, I just happened to be there when my perspective changed. It sounds like you're trying to defend a bad habit by combining it with a good situation.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 17, 2012, 01:45:36 AM
Maturity has a lot to do with it as well. I think I'm a pinch older than all of you and I've seen crazy amounts of change in myself in the last 4-5 years. I'm a lot more comfortable with myself and who I am now that I've refined and finalized my views on things and figured out what I enjoy doing. That's all part of being happier and more positive about yourself.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: (sic) on Friday, February 17, 2012, 09:21:23 AM
You don't know how to explain it because it really isn't explainable, which leads me to believe your new view on life is not the result of drug use in any way. If I wanted to, I could trace a lot of personality changes back to useless things. I started listening to rock and metal in the 9 grade, so therefore my high school is what changed my perspective on music. Of course that's not true, I just happened to be there when my perspective changed. It sounds like you're trying to defend a bad habit by combining it with a good situation.
Then I guess there's no convincing either of us.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Dialects on Friday, February 17, 2012, 09:53:04 AM
I agree with Skrewy on a few aspects, although I'd just like to add something to the conversation.

Drugs can indeed be life-changing. Essentially, drugs make you reach different parts of your brain you wouldn't normally reach. These parts aren't accessed on a routine which in other words means they've not yet been established directional links to the conscious part of our brain --by not doing so, they open a new precedent. Suddenly, the value and importance you give to conscious facts you become aware of in life is rendered non-effecting to this newly accessed parts of your brain. This explains why sometimes a single trip can completely change the way you perceive A or B or even the way you think of yourself. It is because you have no way to measure value and affluence of said access established within your brain that you can judge.

Metaphorically, it'd be like dropping a cow from midair into a field with around 900+ and no one --not even the dogs-- would realize that's a cow and not a dog. They may know it's not a dog but they do not know that it isn't a dog either...thus, they're left with simply accepting it.


On the account of drugs, I'm on a hiatus. I'm 23 and have had huge fun with them. Mushrooms, Acids, Coke, Bloom and variables, Weed, MDs, you name it. It's been a good roll and it has indeed helped me reach a few perspectives I'd of not reached (at that given time and under those given circumstances of my life) otherwise.


P.S:. Yes, you can experience the "kick" drugs give you through meditation alone. In order to do that, you need to start training your brain on the unconscious level, though. A good way to start is giving 10min of your waking-up time out. In those 10min, force yourself to remember what is it that you dreamt and write it down or record it somewhere. Start decoding the native language of your dreams, of your creative creations. Once you've grasped how your brains projects, take a few steps back and relate to that language whilst meditating. After that, patience my dearest, patience you must have and patiently you shall remain.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Friday, February 17, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
It is not convincing either person...

 drugs are just bad...

  I have a very old friend of mine that was a bad father, scammer, hit his wife and kids, and never worried about their lives only himself, till he quitted doing drugs, hes been clean for about 12-13 years now. and he is a complete different person. now don't come here and try to convince me drugs are good or they altered your percepcion of things cos drugs just screw things up in your head.

  the first way of fixing any problems with yourself and others is juts accepting you got one.!
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: (sic) on Friday, February 17, 2012, 10:26:23 AM
I agree with Skrewy on a few aspects, although I'd just like to add something to the conversation.

Drugs can indeed be life-changing. Essentially, drugs make you reach different parts of your brain you wouldn't normally reach. These parts aren't accessed on a routine which in other words means they've not yet been established directional links to the conscious part of our brain --by not doing so, they open a new precedent. Suddenly, the value and importance you give to conscious facts you become aware of in life is rendered non-effecting to this newly accessed parts of your brain. This explains why sometimes a single trip can completely change the way you perceive A or B or even the way you think of yourself. It is because you have no way to measure value and affluence of said access established within your brain that you can judge.

Metaphorically, it'd be like dropping a cow from midair into a field with around 900+ and no one --not even the dogs-- would realize that's a cow and not a dog. They may know it's not a dog but they do not know that it isn't a dog either...thus, they're left with simply accepting it.


On the account of drugs, I'm on a hiatus. I'm 23 and have had huge fun with them. Mushrooms, Acids, Coke, Bloom and variables, Weed, MDs, you name it. It's been a good roll and it has indeed helped me reach a few perspectives I'd of not reached (at that given time and under those given circumstances of my life) otherwise.


P.S:. Yes, you can experience the "kick" drugs give you through meditation alone. In order to do that, you need to start training your brain on the unconscious level, though. A good way to start is giving 10min of your waking-up time out. In those 10min, force yourself to remember what is it that you dreamt and write it down or record it somewhere. Start decoding the native language of your dreams, of your creative creations. Once you've grasped how your brains projects, take a few steps back and relate to that language whilst meditating. After that, patience my dearest, patience you must have and patiently you shall remain.

Yeah I have to say that LSD was the most life changing event of my life thus far. It just makes you look at the human life and cycle from a third person view. To me, human life just seemed so shallow and pedantic. I took a shower and I thought about my whole life and all of my relationships. I came to conclusions I never would have when I was sober. I am a very lazy and laid back person when I'm sober, so I can be pretty irresponsible. When I was in that shower, though, I swear, it was the most powerful moment. I was almost brought to tears because I kept looking at my life and asking myself "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!?!" I almost quit smoking weed forever because of that. I didn't stop smoking, but I'm much better off after that trip.

After watching a movie called Waking Life (which is amazing... I recommend this to everyone), I've been trying to remember and record my dreams in the morning but sometimes I just can't do it - I've been having trouble waking up lately. Anyways, I've really been hoping to lucid dream sometime. I've heard you can unlock timeless secrets in your head. I like to meditate now, but usually that just consists of 10 minutes of just clearing my head of anything and everything.

Mister, it's hard to hear that about your friend. However, realize that drugs affect everyone differently - everyone's body works differently so the way drugs work in your system is different. This means that people who may be naturally predisposed to anger (even if they're perfectly normal when they're sober) tend to be more angry and aggressive on a drug where they can't control their limbs (loss of motor skill) or are confused and they don't like it. I've known some people who've smoked weed once, and hated it. I'm not trying to push it on everyone. I'm just saying that it's been a positive experience in my life.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Dialects on Friday, February 17, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
It is not convincing either person...

 drugs are just bad...

  I have a very old friend of mine that was a bad father, scammer, hit his wife and kids, and never worried about their lives only himself, till he quitted doing drugs, hes been clean for about 12-13 years now. and he is a complete different person. now don't come here and try to convince me drugs are good or they altered your percepcion of things cos drugs just screw things up in your head.

  the first way of fixing any problems with yourself and others is juts accepting you got one.!

Post-Modern Consumerism is just bad. Alcohol is just bad. Diplomacy based on a highest end of a structured hierarchy is bad. Pretty soon, you will find out most of what our world is today is composed of 'bad' things, badly executed and badly controlled with a tremendous leap of information. The point being?

The point is that drugs, just like any other thing in our world, will always resume unhealthy is no information, control and right execution are had. I speak of experience --nearly 60% of my family has been addicted to alcohol, 80% have been addicted to some kind of drug and presently 50% still are. I've seen them at their worst just as I have at their best --with or without the effect of drugs. Some people change for better. Others for worse. For as much as our human consensus would love to pick on these specific cases and ground a general pattern to them, it just isn't doable.

I've drugged myself. I have posted as much in this community whilst in the effect of drugs as I have without. Coherence has never been issue, most certainly. My ideals have remained developing and healthy --That is because I very much like to control my liking to drugs, because I have read about each and every drug I've taken...because I'm aware and have myself that way. Most importantly, because I don't drug so I can escape into a fantasied world of my own --I'm not running away from anything, just having fun and enjoying the treats drugs may bring forth.

Your friend may have been unluck. Or your friend may have not been as responsible as I am. Don't take offense to any of what I am saying. Just be clear that drugs aren't the issue; the issue is how we, humans, behave with them and why we take them for. Just like any other thing in life. It all depends on how we deal with them.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Friday, February 17, 2012, 12:49:17 PM
First thing that comes to my mind in regards to your post Danny boy is the words "control" over "Drugs".

   As someone to is married to a drug therapist, let me tell you sometyhing that i have learnt over listeing to her talk and talk about drugs.

   There is no such things as control over drugs. it is an adiction...  there are people that are adicted to it, there are people with lesser levels of adictions than others, and i am not talking about  illegal subtances alone, (alcohol, tabaco, Video games, you name it), there is also not responsable use of drugs man...

   I myself am adicted to tabaco, i do smoke and i know cigarrets are bad for my health and the health of others around me, but there are things like self aware wich i do agree with you Danny, becoming self aweare of these things give you a centain feel of self control while the real feel is that drugs controll you either that you have less level of adiction than other. I can catalogate myself as an adict but the real strugle is when you realize what you are doing and beging a journey to change.

  Hope you can understand me i feel like i am losing the hability to write in english.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 13:00:15 PM
I think people over analyse drugs, I smoke therefore I philosophize. the debate of 'drugs are bad' isnt a debate. Medically they are bad, sure there are things worse then weed, but it is bad.
The one cigarette smoker who lives to 80 smoking daily will tell u smoking isnt an issue, the other 200 dead will say, nothing cos they are dead.
if you want to explain the effects it has on the mental state as being 'good or bad' is just as silly, as its relative, some people dont feel like altering there mental state, some do...

if I dont like a type of art, debating wont help... I just dont like it. be a good stoner and dont try to debate how good weed is to people, they have to find out for themselves if they are fans or not.
thats my opinion, arguing wether weed is good and bad is boring and endless, our time is best spent abusing no swearing server rules and photoshop nate into sexually awkward images.



I was at the hospital with mummy about 2 years ago doing tests on my lungs, when they found out I was working at just under half of what I should be ontop of my risk of asthma attacks the doctor told me that I shouldnt smoke weed but eat it.... she could prob have worded it better but I have doctors opinion that I should eat weed, if only I could have gotten a prescription. just a funny event, mum found it funny, having a doctor say its ok to eat weed as long as I dont smoke it...
Holy shit. Did skrewy just make a well thought out post? :O
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Dialects on Friday, February 17, 2012, 13:21:48 PM
Indeed Mister, an addiction is an addiction.

Being aware, however, plays a significant role in keeping this addiction at bay.

For instance, with coke:
- Never go a night without doing all the drug you bought. Why? Because by sleeping, waking up and sniffing another line, you'll be giving your body a cycle, one which you do not want to follow up.
- Have an interval of at least 15min between each line you sniff. That'll give your body's bloodstream time to complete a cycle. Preferreably, you should give about 30-45min before you do a second line.
- Make sure you've eaten before you take on the drugs. Also make sure you keep yourself hydrated. It's easy to forget how faster everything is going on on your body once you've taken these drugs. Again, awareness.


This is how you control yourself. Be being aware and responsible. That's all control is: A sum of awareness and resonsability.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Friday, February 17, 2012, 14:46:26 PM
I'm out.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 14:48:58 PM
This is how you control yourself. Be being aware and responsible. That's all control is: A sum of awareness and resonsability.

I could argue that doing drugs, especially dangerous ones like coke, is irresponsible to begin with. Sure you can control how much you do or how you do it, but ultimately you cannot control what happens while you're on the drugs nor does anything productive come out of doing a drug like coke. I understand you can control the negative effects of drugs, but you cannot get rid of them.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Dialects on Friday, February 17, 2012, 15:08:52 PM
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I understand you can control the negative effects of drugs, but you cannot get rid of them.

This is your only correct statement. The rest, well...this is a masses type of thing. I'm not arguing that drugs should be legal, nor that they are cool --neither the opposite. I'm simply opening information that is pretty much kept private for those who do take drugs. Most of the times, they simply have no clue what they are dealing with and act irresponsibly all together. No figures they end up in hospitals.

I may be a wee too liberal for most of people's taste here. I am completely responsible, though. I do not depend on drugs. I do not smoke weed (I seem not to like anymore!) and I am nothing near an alcoholic. I do smoke a medium of 5 cigarrettes a day, though.

I solely wish this conversation had been kept on even grounds; without this abruptly patronizing way of talking you (people that have not taken drugs) all seem to taken a liking to. It is as if you were implying direct superiority over those that do take drugs. There's simply no ground-fundaments to prove against or otherwise. We're all pathetic human beings anyhow.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Friday, February 17, 2012, 15:15:59 PM
Responsible drug use exists, Killa. I can't prove it to you, but I'm sure you could show me plenty of examples that show otherwise. MDMA helped one of my best friends come out of the closet to me and the third guy in our group of BFFs and I am so happy for him to have finally had the comfort in his own body and mind to tell us he was gay. And on his uttering of those two little words I had the most euphoric rush I've ever felt, knowing that he trusts me enough as a friend to tell me the one thing he's held to himself all his life. We had a long conversation about sexuality and interests and while I would normally feel uncomfortable, that is not possible while rolling with friends.

On mushrooms I saw that I am not a shitty person, I'm actually a really fucking great person. I LOVE myself. I used to cut myself, I used to starve myself, I purposely failed Spanish last year for pity and attention. No more, I'm gonna be fucking great. I'm gonna be happy. And I am :)

On acid I realized that I respect my father. He's been through a lot, his life isn't all that great or exciting, but he deserves my respect.

Basically drugs have helped me to grow up and mature really quickly. I'm not an whining bitch anymore :)

Oh and tobacco's a hell of a buzz for me still cuz I use it so rarely. I've only been drunk three times in my life and try to avoid alcohol more so than the less dangerous drugs like acid or mushrooms.

Weed is a fun time in the right situation, but I've only smoked once since Super Bowl Sunday after it being a daily habit for over a year. My marijuana dependence (NOT addiction) has faded and I'm very happy about that.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Friday, February 17, 2012, 15:18:23 PM
And...


You've NEVER heard music or seen art until you've experienced it through a variety of inebriated lenses and that's the one statement I'll make on that subject.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Friday, February 17, 2012, 16:01:00 PM
I consider harming yourself to be irresponsible. I don't care if you can control the damage done by drugs, it's still there. Just like I consider smoking cigarette and drinking a lot of alcohol to be irresponsible. Also Dann, no idea where you got the superiority thing, that was never my intention nor did I ever hint at that in any of my posts.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: [Nifty]-mister on Friday, February 17, 2012, 16:06:57 PM
   I think that we all should respect everyones opinion. I never tryed to point people that do drugs are bad. i got tons of bad examples i could poin that drug abuse is indeed an issue and i am just going to say one thing.

   Remeber my drug addict friend... the only way he stopped doing drugs was because he was doing drugs on the living room, fall sleep his wife woke him up and he was carring a .45 and he got scared when she woke him so he shotter her in the stomach. she almost died... i spent 6 monts giving him half my salary to help him out with his wife's medicine, and treatment.

  nuff said.

 
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Friday, February 17, 2012, 16:35:11 PM
I consider harming yourself to be irresponsible. I don't care if you can control the damage done by drugs, it's still there. Just like I consider smoking cigarette and drinking a lot of alcohol to be irresponsible. Also

Well yeah, cigarettes and alcohol are harmful to you so yes some people may think of them as irresponsible. Psilocybin mushrooms and acid are not harmful though, so therefore they are not irresponsible? Using that logic, that seems to be true but I know that developing a dependency on any substance is harmful. All substances can be harmful but just about all substances can be used responsibly.

ie:

I've cut back on my soda consumption a LOT since I started college because caffeine is addictive and soda is harmful to my body. I like my body, so I don't drink much soda.


Mister, that sounds like a tough situation. I'm sorry you all had to go through that, and that is indeed an example of irresponsible drug use. It is stories like these that keep me level-headed and one step ahead, I try to never put myself in a situation where bad results could occur. Maybe I'm not a risk-taker and maybe you need to be in this world, but irresponsible drug use is a risk I'm never going to take.

*EDIT*

Forgot to say this in the last few replies, but one small piece of Dan's story seemed like it needed to be repeated:

I also have done a LOT of research on any substance I've done before trying it. I like to know what I'm getting myself into and that level of comfort definitely makes the experience much much better.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: .[Ak4].Chubbs on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 00:15:17 AM
I love boobs, beer, Boobs in my beer, Copenhagen, diesel trucks and fire trucks. I also like boobs with my fire trucks... FIRE BOOBS..

Music hunting, fishing, AJ, SIC, Zaku....
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 00:22:19 AM
Cope straight! And mint grizz pouches cuz I'm a woman!
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 00:45:41 AM
I don't want to turn this into another drug conversation but I'll say a few things;

Props to AJ for having sense and maturity and being able to show it through the internet. I still, and always will, disagree with drug use but it's great that you're responsible. I personally wouldn't trust myself with trying to be a responsible drug user. It's such a slippery slope to addiction and dependence.

Extra respect to you for quitting soda. Some things the FDA approves can often be more worse than illegal drugs...
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:03:11 AM
Means a lot coming from you, especially on such an iffy topic as this one.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: soupcakes on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:22:03 AM
respect all your views, just figured i'd throw in my 2 cents bout drugs,

to me, it varies drug to drug... at one point in my life, i did everythin i could get my hands, tried painkillers, x, coke, meth, all of it. ...whatever was clever at the time... through that haze of a drug binged addiction, i learned alot to say the least... basically what it comes down to for me, my own personal belief is the old 'if it comes from the ground, its probably alright' and been holding true to that for a couple years now.

My biggest problem is with prescription drugs (pain killers) and how they are pretty much made to get hooked... they dont really cure anything, just more or less, temporary relief which is why its so easy to get hooked... the real bitch about it thou, is after you've used these drugs for awhile, and you try going a day without em, the physical pain about 2x worse than it was to start with... and idk, not just pain killers, its really every prescription ive looked into... alot of them are kinda a joke really, like if i get meds for asthma, i sure as hell dont want the side effect to be shortness of breath.... or if i get meds for depression, i really dont want the side effects to be suicidal thoughts.... but turns out, its exactly that. and its sad to see people who have to take 3-4 different kind of pills each day to counter the sides effects for each other... when there are natural medicines thats been here for centuries that cure what you need, with NO side effects.... too bad the pharmaceutic companies cant patent natural cures, meaning, no $$$$ in their pocket.

And as far as hallucinogens, im not at all against (minus ecstasy, shit rots your brain in no time, but i dont consider x anythin like trippin), i tend to agree that it opens a different way of thinking, that you normally wouldnt of thought of before the cid or booms... and it sticks with you even after you sober up.... its like, opening doors that can never be closed again.... and i honestly dont know where i stand on acid, from my research its a safe drug, its just, its man made, and anything man made leaves room for error, especially on the black market. but i dont see a problem with tripping out in the woods once or twice a year...  but now if your trippin each month, week or day, you might want to ask yourself  'why do i see it necessary to lose my face so often?'lol.

 i dont even drink alcohol anymore, a glass of wine might be good for you, but i was never one to stick with one drink... i get a outta control, throw up and feel like shit the next day...and alcohol consumption isnt good for me, ... which is weird, because my family tree was watered with alcohol. but ya, think im against alcohol cuz ive seen it ruin my best friends life/ health and also has been a road to no-where for some of my family.

i do support recreational (and medical) marijuana use, only because it is the safest drug in history, the side effects are hungry, happy and sleepy (credit to kat williams for that)... doesnt mean its for everybody, but for those who like to stay in control of their actions and still not be sober for a minute, for me, its the ticket.

and this is where ill sound  hypocritical, its ok, i realize and accept it... I would never recommend tobacco use to anybody, seriously the most addicting drug ive ever done, and im still addicted to Tobacco today sad enough.... hate that my body sends cravings that make me think i 'need' it... ive quit before, for months... but then theres always that one day that comes along thats like eff it... and think ive accepted ill be a smoker till i die... but it does make me wonder how addicting is straight unprocessed tobacco is, with out all the FDA approved additives....

the best drug thou, that i do recommend to everybody, is chocolate milk, been hooked for like 23 years! I practically piss Hershey chocolate.

edit: figured i should say half way on topic, i love folfing, especially here, folf course on a freaken mountain, doesnt get any better, love animals, especially my cat... he tried to play on the computer, eats keys from keyboards, tries to interact with video games, especially the wii... watches tv and attacks the tv most days and he is soo curious about most technology, including the toilet....umm, what else, like hiking, swimming, sittin in some hot springs and bowling... about sums me up.




Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:28:06 AM
the best drug thou, that i do recommend to everybody, is chocolate milk, been hooked for like 23 years! I practically piss Hershey chocolate.
Chocolate milk is fucking awesome.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:39:03 AM
Wow, I've always felt weird for having milk as my preferred beverage and I'm 22. You've been downing chocolate milk longer than I've been alive! Awesome :D
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:58:15 AM

I like MDMA in moderation. I don't do it enough to get hooked, and I don't take random ecstasy pills with horse tranquilizers or heroin in them. I'm not doing molly tomorrow night because I did the previous two weeks, so I'm gonna do shrooms instead. Psilocybin is my favorite substance, opens doors like you said. I love acid but god damn boomers are just so much better. So much euphoria and visual effects and music! FUCKING MUSIC! Last time I boomed was christmas eve, just sat in a recliner for seven hours and watched my area rug turn into a flowing river as I listened to Shpongle and held on to the chair cuz the music made me feel like I was going to fall out of existence. Greatest experience of my life, first time tripping alone and definitely the best trip yet.

*EDIT*
And I've been thinking about cigarettes all day. Damn.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: soupcakes on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 02:58:40 AM
Wow, I've always felt weird for having milk as my preferred beverage and I'm 22. You've been downing chocolate milk longer than I've been alive! Awesome :D

haha, well im only 23, i just like to assume i was drinkin chocolate milk when i first came from my mama's womb....(damn that rhymed, maybe i can become a hip-hop rapstar.. i just need to acquire a taste for rap music)

glad theres one thing we can all agree on thou, chocolate milk ftw.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: BlueBlaster on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 03:57:35 AM
I like MDMA in moderation. I don't do it enough to get hooked, and I don't take random ecstasy pills with horse tranquilizers or heroin in them. I'm not doing molly tomorrow night because I did the previous two weeks, so I'm gonna do shrooms instead. Psilocybin is my favorite substance, opens doors like you said. I love acid but god damn boomers are just so much better. So much euphoria and visual effects and music! FUCKING MUSIC! Last time I boomed was christmas eve, just sat in a recliner for seven hours and watched my area rug turn into a flowing river as I listened to Shpongle and held on to the chair cuz the music made me feel like I was going to fall out of existence. Greatest experience of my life, first time tripping alone and definitely the best trip yet.

*EDIT*
And I've been thinking about cigarettes all day. Damn.

You gotta pay attention with MDMA cuz after a while the brain will reduce production of Serotonin and then you'll be permanently depressed.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 12:28:16 PM
Yeah I'm in psych and I'm aware of that, thanks for watching out for me though. The hangover is usually pretty harsh cuz I'm just sad about nothing... And sad that I can't do more when I wake up :p
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 13:06:33 PM
Yeah I'm in psych and I'm aware of that, thanks for watching out for me though. The hangover is usually pretty harsh cuz I'm just sad about nothing... And sad that I can't do more when I wake up :p
How is that beneficial then? Sure you feel good while you're on it, but if you feel bad after you get off of it, then doesn't that just kinda make the whole experience neutral?
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Spanky on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 13:13:39 PM
That's the beginning of addiction, when you realize that and try to maintain that high constantly to make yourself feel good.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Dialects on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 14:34:51 PM
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How is that beneficial then? Sure you feel good while you're on it, but if you feel bad after you get off of it, then doesn't that just kinda make the whole experience neutral?

No. It provides you with a good experience and a bad experience. One is good, the other is bad. You get two experiences. No sum of neither is required.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 14:39:40 PM
No. It provides you with a good experience and a bad experience. One is good, the other is bad. You get two experiences. No sum of neither is required.
Ok, but why have the good experience if you get a bad one right after it? That's not really beneficial at all. It's just something else to push you towards addiction. The negatives far outweigh the positives in that situation. Not only do you feel like crap, you feel like doing more, which is dangerous.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: BlueBlaster on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 16:40:19 PM
The brain is fairly malleable. It's possible to reduce depression regardless of the chemical reactions going on in the brain that promote depression. The brain is in your head, you fucking control it. Someone here is going to come and argue otherwise but they can suck a tit.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Alex on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 17:18:00 PM
The brain is fairly malleable. It's possible to reduce depression regardless of the chemical reactions going on in the brain that promote depression. The brain is in your head, you fucking control it. Someone here is going to come and argue otherwise but they can suck a tit.
You can make yourself feel less depressed, that is true, but that changes what is happening in your brain. So there is no "regardless of chemical reactions" as everything you think or do is a result of reaction in your brain. This is not a matter of ideas, this is scientifically proven.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: soupcakes on Saturday, February 25, 2012, 18:30:33 PM
 no debate that ecstasy certainly lives up to its name, but i agree that the short and long term effects of using MDMA are pretty serious and dangerous.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Archeh on Sunday, February 26, 2012, 15:31:49 PM
Booming last night was very strange... Lots of suicidal thoughts after the last trip I had was complete happiness. Meditation made it a good trip again but I'm a little intimidated by mushrooms right now and I have more. Don't really wanna eat em any time soon.

I don't have the cash means or the hook up to become addicted to molly, don't worry. My drug experimentation phase is starting to slow down also, especially shrooms. I'm enlightened now on the other side, I've broke through a couple times. Nothing else to get out of mushrooms.
Title: Re: What are you interested in?
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, March 07, 2012, 18:12:19 PM
I ride bikes, mountain bikes, BMX and a fixed gear bike for getting to and from college (TAFE). I also have been playing guitar for the last 9 years but cant play much any more because of tendinitis in my wrists.

I love getting up to the river whenever I can and going kneeboarding / wakeboarding with mates and while I am up there we often go shooting rabbits. I see myself as a pretty active person.

Hey you're such an active person indeed :) BMXs seems very nice to ride, i've never had one. Just riding around with different mountain bikes in different conditions.