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Community => The Lounge => Topic started by: Spanky on Sunday, May 30, 2010, 01:19:04 AM
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I hate to take the spotlight away from Blueblaster's topic (which you should read as well) but I had an idea. Quite simply, "Sensible Clocks" (.net). The idea is that there seems to be a lot of noise around pushing computer speeds to the max, no matter the condition. There is an untapped market for ranking sensible overclocks. This is would be the area between stock speed and I-need-.2v-more-for-10MHz speed. Something that allows you to get a ton more performance without seriously degrading your hardware and creating un-necessary heat.
The basic ideas would be as follows:
volts (under load) to GHz/MHz ratio - every architecture would be separated
temperature at load (ambient temp is then subtracted to give a # that can be ranked)
We could then have a section about how far can you go on stock voltages and such.
I'm kind of drawing a blank now after my idea explosion but I think this is something to run with. I know not everyone here gets a hard-on from looking at n00d computers but there's graphics and coding to think about. Thoughts?
*EDIT*
Ideas and Goals:
~Name(s)
Clockforclock
clockingforeverydayuse
SensibleClock
CareClock (first domain would probably be .co.cc and CareClock.co.cc has a nice ring)
~Features
Ranking via the following:
TrueTemp (full load temp minus ambient room temp), mV/GHz ratio (different section for every class, revision and stepping), Highest overclock on stock voltage
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I like this idea, I'm on board.
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Sounds cool because I haven't seen anything like this before. I'll help out with anything you need though if we decide to get started with this.
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Sounds cool because I haven't seen anything like this before.
That's what makes me think it might be cool. It would mostly need a lot of php and mysql knowledge to happen, basic stuff that can be learned pretty easily. I wonder how we could learn if there's a demand for it without giving ideas to other people...
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We just have to try and figure it all out outselves.
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Knight, Blue, is this something you both have a decent amount of interest in? It would be nice to see some more support or at least acknowledgement... I frequently talk with this guy known as Freak (http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/510629-500-fsb-q9550s-post-your-100-a.html) (he taught me epic wisdom for my setup) and he says it would be a good idea that he would support. This isn't something that should be rushed, it would need to be feature rich and slick before released to the public.
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I do have a fair amount of interest in this project. I'm just not sure where to go from here.
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<html>
<head>
<title>Welcome to SensibleClock.net!</title>
</head>
<body>
<center>
Welcome! This site is currently under construction.
</center>
</body>
</html>
:P In seriousness though, I think a plan is needed. But I would still like to see more interest.
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I can help you code and do graphical work. A good base can get setup for this even with a team as small as 3 or 4 people. As long as you get the main idea down and know what you want to show others, then you can get a simple site up with the important things your going to be displaying. You get the base down and you can add cool tools and new ways of looking at your data.
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Let's brainstorm. Ideas, goals, name...
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Clockforclock
clockingforeverydayuse
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Did anyone yell "Dann!" ?
It would appear this Dann is a Graphics-guru of sorts.
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We could use you Dann :) But, probably not right away unless you want to help with PHP and ideas. Speaking of which, I edited the main post with a few tidbits.
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My knowledge on the subject is daring short and lacking. Being an idea-generator, however, demands not one bit of knowledge. I am timeless at the moment, but I will be back to this thread and contribute with something a bit more consistent later on tonight. Meanwhile, I think CareClock has a certain ring to it and easily out-bests the others listed thus far.
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Everything we've ever done on this community has been computer/game related. Its amazing.
I like the sound of careclock.co.cc
Maybe InteliClock?
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Everything we've ever done on this community has been computer/game related. Its amazing.
I like the sound of careclock.co.cc
Maybe InteliClock?
Well, we are using computers and we all do play games :) I kind of like InteliClock but it sounds a bit Microsoft-ish.
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The idea sounds good, but again, I have nothing to contribute to it. ;)
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Is this going to be a web-based application, or cpu-based?
Do we code it so it automatically recognises your CPU, or do list the models?
Would it be a bad idea to add more than just CPU overclocking? It could be interesting to make this a hardware-complete application.
I would like to see these answered before I bombard this forums with ideas, detail and extensive discussion about this.
:)
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Dann, you fail at understanding :)
As it stands right now, there's sites like http://hwbot.org/ that encourage people to perpetually break world records (rather pointless since newer, better, faster chips are released) where you submit information and "proof" about your computer to be ranked. No program needed, although one could be made, full detection might be difficult. People are then ranked based upon information. There's a lot of overclock as far as you can go no matter the volts or temperatures but there's not much support for reasonable, 24/7 usage overclocking where voltages and temperatures DO matter as well as underclocking. This seems to be an untapped niche that would have a large fanbase if done properly. That's what this would be. A place where people would go to compete while staying inside voltage specifications for hardware.
Without getting into a schooling lesson, with top overclocking, there's a lot of variables that people can't control and IMO, world records are farces and people are just lucky with the type of chip and hardware that they get that allow them to overclock that far. You can take 1 model of chip, even the same stepping, take 50 different batches of that chip and they can all behave differently. Different batches/chips have different VID's (default voltages that the manufacturer says is guaranteed to run at) which can vary a LOT and thus vary the voltage the chip requires to run which can affect the peak overclock. It would take some creative thinking to get a proper ranking going that takes into account GHz or MHz per mV for that VID. This would rank people more properly based upon their skill, and rely less on the luck of the draw of hardware. Now, this site wouldn't be just for CPU's, there's plenty of other hardware to incorporate as well. This site should get really specific with hardware to try and eliminate OEM changes for example, RAM. You can have a model/brand of RAM but the actual chips inside may change with that model's revision and thus the performance changes as well.
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Yeah on alot of the overclocking forums you can get belittled for lack of knowledge and not having the best/newest/fastest hardware. Its sad but it happens. I like the idea of a friendly sensible clocking site and am willing to contribute any time i have to it.
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Well I think we will need some pipe joints welded for this project :) Thanks for sending someone Skrewy. Mans, do you think this website would be needed and/or do you think there's a niche for it?
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Yea, I hated that when looking for mine. Everyone is focused on max clock and even taking working settings at an extreme overclock, it's hard to take those and modify them to your own needs. BTW, welcome to the forum :)
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Hi, I just wanna let you guys know that I want to focus on this idea we have here. I think we all need to put a little bit more of our time together to get this thing standing up because somehow we've concieved an awesome idea and we all know there is a monetary benefit to this if we do it right. Everybody loves to make a little money on the side :)
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What has happened to this? Let's get it on, pals, come on!
Stop being the faggot chickens you are and put some work towards it.
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I want to do it but I don't feel motivated.
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I thought it was cool, I wouldn't have minded thinking of a system to organize the data and have a dynamic way of displaying it. Thinking isn't hard.
Just wait till you get to doing.
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I think a spreadsheet would be fine. I'm almost sorry I brought this idea up. I thought I would be more motivated when others liked the idea. It seems cool but a lot of work at the same time. I guess a good start would be to just have a dedicated web folder and mysql database eh? Hmmm, I just checked to see if I could make a database on this domain and let others access it and not my others, didn't really work out.