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Title: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 02:05:38 AM
AA has always been a love/hate relationship for me. I think we all love the classic days and funnily enough, those are all different time periods. We came in at different times, knowing different people, enjoying different servers and different crews on different versions. But we all share the same fondness for a specific period. The way it used to be.

It's almost heartbreaking, the poor timing I've seen in this game. I came into this game around when 2.6 was released, maybe a bit before. This was a weird time. All the anti-cheat sites were still popular but MD5 checks didn't exist and you could do crazy easy cheats and only get caught if the server admins were lucky enough to get a screenshot. I met Crusade just as he was starting to take off on modding and hacking, bringing back a lot of the old school coding to life that was pioneered by PAS clan and Rifle over at the Hazard AA Tracker. I had learned about modding and loved to run my own server and looking to make it better, I found out about custom maps and that's when I met BlueBlaster. Both him and me were scraping together the remnants of the custom maps once created by enthusiastic people at aa-maps.net. We were too late to work with them but instead just browsed through the forum which was more of a graveyard. This is just a tidbit of my personal history with AA and the great people I've met through it. I say the timing is heartbreaking because, knowing what I know and seeing the timeline unfold, I was always too late. Finding out about cool shit after someone else was done with it. I've come across so many super talented people over the years I've been involved with AA. It's impossible because it's gone but I often wonder what would have happened had the timing been right and a lot of us gotten together to create something amazing. Brilliant website coders and designers, creative UScript, LUA and C++ coders, 3d modelers, countless talented mappers, tons of eager people willing to learn. It's been such a waste. Looking back, a lot of these characters quickly burned out. I'm sure they all had various reasons but I can't help but think that given what we know and have today, if that same enthusiasm and knowledge they had 10 years ago, if that was around today... wow.

I don't know what it is about this game but it's just heartbreaking and frustrating. I miss the way things used to be. I am disappointed in the waste of potential due to timing.

What do you miss? What do you wish was different?
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 02:20:34 AM
Nice topic! :)
Even though dwelling on the past can sometimes have a negative effect, remembering what was great and what could have been even better most probably won't.

I started AA around 12 years ago. Don't remember much from back then, was in a clan here and a clan there, had some fun in different leagues.
I think around 7-9 years ago was my peak time in AA. There was loads of different maps being played. Hell, I remember Courtyard (I was whoring it back in the day) had 3-4 different servers filled at all hours of the day (didn't check literally, but felt that way). Probably so did most other maps that were decent. It was so easy to play any map you wanted. There was always a server for it (unless it was FLS Assault or SF Recon, I think).
I think it was around the same time that I also played a little bit of modded AA. I remember fondly my days of SF Urban (on 2.6) ... killing 6 people with 1 203  - those were the days :D . It was a lot simpler back then somehow. I guess nowadays most everybody has played this game for 10 odd years and has picked up a thing or two.
I even remember playing some AA  2.5 (my clan at the time, -v3. - consisting of MR an iX -  was originally from 2.5 , but they had migrated to 2.8)

I had a break from AA somewhere around 2009 - 2012.
It was only after that I when I joined this community here. I've seen some rises and falls of different people. I've seen very talented and highly motivated people come and go (mostly the latter, at least in the end). It's sad to see, but unfortunately that's life - always moving forward. I'm just glad there's still people sticking around.

All in all, I'm not even sure what I miss most of all. I just don't feel like playing the game interests me anymore. I'm not sure if my (somewhat mild) ~3500 hours on it has given me all it could or I just grew out of it. I'm not sure what exactly would bring back the spark. But I know there was a spark and there will always be a memory of that and as long as it's there, I'll do what I can for this project.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Spanky on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 02:31:37 AM
It's one of those nights, I'm just dwelling on the past. Thinking of better times and what could be different. Shitty but it provokes thought and opens discussion.

There's quite a few good frags that come to mind. I remember the plentiful servers where you could hop on and you actually had to scroll through the list and pick something. There was a lot to choose from not just in maps but locations and mods. You weren't forced to play a map you don't like on a server across the world.

I'm sure a good psychology thesis could be done on this game and it's impact in players' minds even a decade and a half later. There's just something unique about this game that hooks people.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: ronski on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 03:06:57 AM
I have been around only two years. Back in the days I used to work as a lifesaver at swimming hall and there I met LieutenanT (http://aao25.com/forum/profile/?u=5755), two years ago I was already working full day with websites but I spent few evenings at swimming hall helping with their recourse problem and there one day we were talking with this good friend of mine about fps games, that time I played mostly Quake III Arena, and when he introduced this game to me this felt so damn hard. I didn't play long after I signed up on this, my crappy PC didn't help much in learning how to play. After six months I started working where I work now, got brand new Mac and gave another try for this game. I still remember how people behaved against me when I was trying to learn how to play, it's sad to see how people still behave against low honors, they seem to forget that one day they were at the very same position. Maybe it's a part of the learning path then.. Fortunately I had my friend as a mentor here and he taught me all the "tricks", I got to known with new friends, got to known with -seke^ players and after being with them in teamspeak for week or two they took me in to their clan somewhere in march 2015. During this two years I've got friends from all over the world <3

After I got this mac I've been in love with this game. The more time has passed the more I want this to stay alive. I wish I would have got to known with this ten years earlier, but back in those days I had my own hustle in life as well, so would I have had time for this back then is totally another subject. So what I miss? From these two years I miss those days when clans were actually working together and also those days when we didn't have this much of hate among us. What I wish was different? I wish the player base would be bigger and we could just all get along, unfortunately the latter seems to be too hard but for the player base we might have something worth of trying..
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Southofheaven on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Finally a topic that worth the time to read and write.
I started to play this game in 2004 or 5 i dont remember well. (too much beer since then) but at the time it was great because all days full servers many maps. I remember being waiting for a spot to get in servers Like United Noobs and such. the worst thing about that time was the hackers. that u all know how it was. but we had really fun games. Now its always the same, maps , same soap operas, insults, weapons, tks, on and on and on until people lost interest. Lots of the guys i play me included are all playing 2.8.5 and we may have in a good day 10 players in a server. but its fun like hell because we rotate all maps and different types of playing and its close to what the game was some years ago. But the best of this is that we have respect over there. the guys that were playing there for years welcomed us and helped us and no problem to this day. The problem here is that people are sick of the fighting sick of the same maps so they dont show up. Until most of the players start to bring ideas and stop the "fighting" this will only keep on sinking.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Koden on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 13:01:34 PM
I think America's Army as a whole was a really lucky and beatiful coincidence that  probably had very few chances to exist otherwise...i mean: a free, quality tactical FPS that rivalled and was even superior to similar titles that came out at its time, developed and published by an US Army dep? 

I am already glad we (at least most of us) have been to be able to play this game in his golden age where it really was fresh, new and enjoyable at its best.

I think America's army has surely left something on everyone who has played...in its multiple roles and qualities it has something for literally everyone.   I get Spanky's point but if there's a time and place for everything, then maybe America's Army had its own place in time...even FPS arena were doing better back then.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 15:22:18 PM
I miss all the guys I meet at the start. I miss the Smugglers clan I was about to join and the clan split. Life story of AA full of splits. All the way through to the anti cheat sites aswell. Smugglers finnished and I joined half or more of them that then became. the {ReAl} Real Renagades. With Spuds as the leader. Miss all these great guys. Miss all the great guys at ACI Reaper Kage and many other real genuine guys. I sent and recieved stuff to and from these guys all round the world.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Vanoke on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 16:37:12 PM
This i have in my facebook so all can read history and yes future/history   1 & 2   3 is now!
1-:
   :style:
Hello my name is ..... also in game called Vanoke here my history.

I was started in around 2006 under the name flyingdutchman1 together whit the guy you know as Abyss  he was Flyingdutchman2 he already played it for a while before I finally do the Install.

I remember i say to him meaby later its nothing for me!! but i didden`t know what i say in that time i was to young just 44 years.

So i play the game and I was fascinated bye the game play and the contacts in game. I know =[DDT]= and AK Asskickers and CGS were my favorit.

I start in the clan from =[DDT]= Detachement Delta Team the clan was in portugal, here the site its still running http://ddtclan.com.sapo.pt/ (http://ddtclan.com.sapo.pt/)

were me and abyss were playing alot and a good friendship was born whit those guy`s Sergio Noddy VosC Ribiero Fapetta Trump Mikey Tuga Slash Artolas Tomek.

And soon i puth the naughty shoes on and askt if i can be a member and that results in =[DDT]=Vanoke.

But soon .....internal affair thit the clan do fall apart and that results that sum members Sergio Trump VosC Noddy and me started a aa 2.8.5 server whit the name and tag =PUF=  that stands for Peace Under Fire  great name hey !! .

I played several years in that clan untill also this dit come to a end, private reasons and other intresses new games were the mean reasons.

But in all that time we had to 3 wise man form Kauto norway and 1 t-back American named Sid and Me and street and Abyss puth the heads together and say yes we can.

So whit help from sergio i dit installed the game in to my server that i get for my 50 years burthday from my cousin.

Now we have 5 servers on the comp. were we can play on.

THX to all old and new players that believe in =PUF=Kauto clan

2-:
  :style:
1 - So here we are then, we have a server and 5 game s that are in modded style.

13  members how play summtimes and understand so far i can see the fun and the contact in game and on raidcall.

I hope that will stay for a long time.

The cost are not so much only the electricity and when it broken i will look for a other server 2 hands not new i don t know what it will cost we will see and meaby there are better idears how knows!!!, so far i know we still have around 80,- euro on paypal. but soon i will support assist for 30 euro not 60 like last time becose the change in game they dit to us.

2 - We have to a other part we're we have to deal with called Assist.

In the begin we had no problems whit the admins about modded server, but becose there was a cheange in the admin settings and whit that a diffrend way of thinking

were we have to deal whit.

My biggest problem and unfairnes that happend is that in the start of the inlog to our modded servers is standing unautorised Cheats , and we all knows what that means unfair difference and we all know thats not true!! in our server is everybuddy equal.

I dit make many toppics in assist forum to led them know that its childish ore whatever Sid told them that it is a chooce that players self can make.

But ther is no listerning ear for us so, and like spanky say be glad that you still may play this game. so after about 8 years of modded gameA few guys make our future and try to turn it a adder way.

3 - But i believe in the good game and modded in the right proportions !! ( i know the jump 750 was to high but now we have 550 and thats good soldiers can jumpore climb  to over walls.)

4 - The summer hollydays are almost over the bad weather will bring back more players back to play more regularly.

if it looks like people don`t come anymore becose they don t get point (honor),

I will cheange like Sid ask 1 server into normal if i can do it (do i have the skills) ore whit help form others it must work hooah!!  ORE !!!!

5 - a little dream a second server normal whit =PUF=Kauto somewere els =PUF=Kauto grows 2x hooah! thx for listerning its a open end.

3-:
   :makemyday:
Also i see ther is no grow in this game . Way  ?? 
1- We get older. 
2- Its difficult to motivate players outsite clans ,but also insite clans it also takes alot
    inputh for the server admins. we know several clans that were big, and did shrink changed name , ore
    dissapeard , players ( clans ) did go to other games.
Olso PUF has to do with all those changes in time, luckely i found after my BCD nadir ad the end some friends that motivate me to go on becose we build in time 2006 / 2016 a super good environment in clan.  And a extra server in coop 2.8.5 helps us to stay in game splitting in assist and bugsgang now.

I believe in clans they can  gif a extra impuls to stay. The contact between humans and the discussion (ore no discussions)   in ts ore other media like Website ,FB  are making it worth and i think for alot of my members to stay in game.

writting in spanky first line :
 Looking back, a lot of these characters quickly burned out. I'm sure they all had various reasons but I can't help but think that given what we know and have today, if that same enthusiasm and knowledge they had 10 years ago, if that was around today... wow.


Yes beautifull  speaking spanky good idears new inputh, fun mods ,respawn, And yes I miss BIG CLAN DAY in the time ther was hope that clans suppost to try to work together Euro / America.   




 
       
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Yahoo on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 16:43:54 PM
The game is only good as the players in it, and the people we met along the way were what made this game great. Besides that i think what people miss the most is well summarize by the links below.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060207063941/http://aaotracker.4players.de/trackerstats.php (http://web.archive.org/web/20060207063941/http://aaotracker.4players.de/trackerstats.php)

http://web.archive.org/web/20060505214811/http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewladder.asp?ladder=America%27s+Army+Europe+Objective+6v6 (http://web.archive.org/web/20060505214811/http://www.teamwarfare.com/viewladder.asp?ladder=America%27s+Army+Europe+Objective+6v6)
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Whoopin on Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 17:18:44 PM
I found this and thought this would bring back memories of when everyone started the game.

(https://aao25.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi85.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk78%2FThe_Musicwizard%2FAAversions_zpsvcqcwmnj.jpg&hash=9491cf9df3433746cbe0142bf7e35fbc)

I first heard about AA through a Time magazine article.  I started playing around version 1.9.  So many people playing back then, everyone fighting to get into the "good" servers.  I joined a clan back then, =SouthPark=. I was the only American in a German clan! LOL!  We ran several servers, including a TWL server.  Those were the days.  Our clan had over 50+ members at the time.  I would have to get up very early so I could play with my clanmates.  I made some very good friends, who I still keep in touch with today.

Well, 2.8 came along and the clan started to dissolve.  A lot of the members did not want to upgrade, and the clan fell apart.  The next couple of years I clan hoped from =[316]=, @SS, UcG and then the 82nd.us.  It was during my time with @SS that the whole bottom of AA fell out with the shutting down of the authorization server.  We tried holding the clan together and playing different games, but it wasn't to be.  It would be awhile till I found about ASSIST.  And now....even ASSIST is falling apart.

I will play as long as there are servers and people who want to play, but not sure how long that will be.  I did discover some 2.8.5 servers still around, some people playing COOP (Bot) maps.  We have tried to make a go of that, but again we only have a few die hard fans.

I will stick with the 82nd till Shad shuts it down, after that I am not interested in Clans.  The day of the Clans is gone.  Gaming is just not like it use to be.......sad.

Whoopin
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Virus.exe on Thursday, April 21, 2016, 16:04:31 PM
I first played AA at a friends house in July of 2002, v 1.0.

Went and built my very first PC just for AA. Had my own account at version 1.2.1

Love that I can now login and play again however this community is not the greatest, and the players active and their attitudes are even worse.

I really did not expect to see the majority of players online to be only playing pipe and hospital. The clans with servers and their admins seem generally hostile and aggressive to anyone who doesn't suck up to them.

Also it seems a large number of players are still playing for raising stats rather than fun friendly gameplay, which really slows things down and dulls the gameplay.

Great thing going here but I find the community is lacking positivity. Not many friendly or fun players out there, too much needless bickering.

Game is 15 years old, get over yourselves.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Koden on Thursday, April 21, 2016, 16:43:22 PM
I first played AA at a friends house in July of 2002, v 1.0.

Went and built my very first PC just for AA. Had my own account at version 1.2.1

Love that I can now login and play again however this community is not the greatest, and the players active and their attitudes are even worse.

I really did not expect to see the majority of players online to be only playing pipe and hospital. The clans with servers and their admins seem generally hostile and aggressive to anyone who doesn't suck up to them.

Also it seems a large number of players are still playing for raising stats rather than fun friendly gameplay, which really slows things down and dulls the gameplay.

Great thing going here but I find the community is lacking positivity. Not many friendly or fun players out there, too much needless bickering.

Game is 15 years old, get over yourselves.
This was something happening on the latest year of life of 2.8.5 aswell (to a smaller degree), there have been countless attempts to get people to play different maps, but indeed the community is now really small and you often find more or less the same people playing the same maps, and many might not be so friendly/polite as they should be.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Robert on Thursday, April 21, 2016, 17:57:24 PM
Came in to play in 2007, remember urban assault was one of my favourite maps with bridge crossing.

Loved mutate mod, also loved crusades mods when I was server admin of IGC clan.

Also loved it when servers had point hack and every kill was 5000 points. Blowing everyone with RPG in bridge crossing with all kinds of mods involved, super jump, gravity and so on. It was fun and one of the best memories I personally had.

I was a clan jumper early in the game, my first clan was -[DeF] as far as I remember then I went to SWISS, IGC and other couple clans.

I have used a no recoil cheat for 2 weeks when my honour was 81 that's when I levelled it to 84 as far as I know, it wasn't my best moment but I admit for doing it and it was one of the memories when my main account got banned.

But to sum up everything, my best memories where when I first started on this forum, I tried to help as much as I could and gave a lot of ideas to this community, also looking back at my questions I see how stupid they were. ( also have 5 -6 forum accounts and most of the banned for giving hate to this community )
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Virus.exe on Friday, July 01, 2016, 14:10:52 PM
IMO the game actually began to go downhill when they started to remove the original HomeLAN official servers and allowed people to run their own official servers.

I played this game since the very very beginning. Before there was SF, before there was even Honor. A lot of things changed around that time, the hardest thing for us original players to get used to was having to play by different rules in every server. It was such a hassle getting kicked and bitched at for normal game functions that simple minded players couldn't combat against.

The other thing that really changed (and ruined) the game was it felt like around the time AA2.0 came out with SF, it became a lot easier to play for the masses, my memory may not be 100% correct but I even think they enlarged the hitboxes because of the CS and COD players who couldn't get any kills without camping and waiting to shoot someone in the back.

I tried coming back here to 2.5 Assist but the game is modded even more to force you to play a certain way and it's not my style. Unless people are breaking game functions I see no reason to force them to play by your rules or style or face ban. There simply aren't enough players to dictate the gameplay in that manner.

Biggest problem today is the lack of players, and what few players there are today are definitely not friendly. I want to be involved here and try to bring back some guys but in all honesty there's not much to come back to. This isn't a friendly place and the way people run their servers don't promote fun gameplay majority of the time. "My server my rules" isn't exactly a fun environment to come back to, especially when some of us have been away for 5 or more years.

Just my opinion not that it will matter to any of the elitists here.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Koden on Friday, July 01, 2016, 14:21:31 PM
IMO the game actually began to go downhill when they started to remove the original HomeLAN official servers and allowed people to run their own official servers.

I played this game since the very very beginning. Before there was SF, before there was even Honor. A lot of things changed around that time, the hardest thing for us original players to get used to was having to play by different rules in every server. It was such a hassle getting kicked and bitched at for normal game functions that simple minded players couldn't combat against.

The other thing that really changed (and ruined) the game was it felt like around the time AA2.0 came out with SF, it became a lot easier to play for the masses, my memory may not be 100% correct but I even think they enlarged the hitboxes because of the CS and COD players who couldn't get any kills without camping and waiting to shoot someone in the back.

I tried coming back here to 2.5 Assist but the game is modded even more to force you to play a certain way and it's not my style. Unless people are breaking game functions I see no reason to force them to play by your rules or style or face ban. There simply aren't enough players to dictate the gameplay in that manner.

Biggest problem today is the lack of players, and what few players there are today are definitely not friendly. I want to be involved here and try to bring back some guys but in all honesty there's not much to come back to. This isn't a friendly place and the way people run their servers don't promote fun gameplay majority of the time. "My server my rules" isn't exactly a fun environment to come back to, especially when some of us have been away for 5 or more years.

Just my opinion not that it will matter to any of the elitists here.
I agree with you about the total, massive lack of respect I see around these days...although I don't get what you mean about the modding. Are you talking about game features or map features? As far as I can recall this version of the game only received rather minor modifications in comparison to the original one (like the SAI).
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Virus.exe on Friday, July 01, 2016, 18:53:18 PM
I agree with you about the total, massive lack of respect I see around these days...although I don't get what you mean about the modding. Are you talking about game features or map features? As far as I can recall this version of the game only received rather minor modifications in comparison to the original one (like the SAI).

I guess the only specific example I noticed (because if that inability to find a game on other maps) is not having the 203 rounds on Hospital. Was a good way to deal with door spam shooters, RPG campers and WWR campers. Again, I'm not sure if other maps have been modified because often the only games are the tired old Pipeline and Hospital.

Ultimately the largest issue here is the community is just plain awful and I don't want to waste my time with the total disrespect and unfriendliness.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: phuNkiii.ops on Friday, July 01, 2016, 19:46:03 PM
game died when they released AA 3,  think at that time it had really high system requirments.. Nobody really moved into the next version so I think they probably ended official support to try to get people to move on to newest version but that never happened as it was way different and nonapeling, and they ended up killing whole game. Think at some point it was most played free FPS
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Carmy on Friday, July 01, 2016, 19:59:41 PM
I remember when I found this game,I downloaded it for Dario and he started playing with Combat elite force.Was so much fun..Best AA fun ever.But now its all competition! Its not for the love of the game no more..I tried  playing night after night just to not make this game die,,But just to be disrespected to keep people in line. I would love to still play this game,But you cant any more.People come to servers just to annoy you,Cause there better.So they say!! Feel sorry for it to die out,To much hate and jealous.If people like you more then them and they do every thing to f you up..Even though your a good person. For me its all gone I may play for 15 to 20 mins, and that's it. Not the same anymore  >>>And I was one of biggest  fan of AA here..
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: ronski on Friday, July 01, 2016, 21:29:03 PM
I remember when I found this game,I downloaded it for Dario and he started playing with Combat elite force.Was so much fun..Best AA fun ever.But now its all competition! Its not for the love of the game no more..I tried  playing night after night just to not make this game die,,But just to be disrespected to keep people in line. I would love to still play this game,But you cant any more.People come to servers just to annoy you,Cause there better.So they say!! Feel sorry for it to die out,To much hate and jealous.If people like you more then them and they do every thing to f you up..Even though your a good person. For me its all gone I may play for 15 to 20 mins, and that's it. Not the same anymore  >>>And I was one of biggest  fan of AA here..
I can feel you Carmy, all Nomad servers and Hosp Paradise are having a subnet ban being set by my IP, which means I can't play there (with my IP). This also means that no one here using the same provider can join those servers because of the subnet ban. We have over 560 000 citizens in this eastern part of Finland and majority of households using stationary internet connection here are using the same provider as I, which means they use similar ping as I. My friend Sherif has same provider and is living in same city, he is banned from those servers as well because of this subnet ban. We have friends for whom we'd like to introduce the game but it feels pointless since most likelythey are already banned from about 30 servers before they even download the game.

There are persons who are trying to do their best for this game and persons who are doing their best to kill the game.

This kind of bans makes no sense, they are set to me but I can bypass them if I want to. Not everyone can and that's why it affects on others. Why this kind of ban was placed? I have no idea, but it'sfucked up because it has so huge impact.

Hatefull community you say?
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Virus.exe on Friday, July 01, 2016, 21:44:58 PM
I can feel you Carmy, all Nomad servers and Hosp Paradise are having a subnet ban being set by my IP, which means I can't play there (with my IP). This also means that no one here using the same provider can join those servers because of the subnet ban. We have over 560 000 citizens in this eastern part of Finland and majority of households using stationary internet connection here are using the same provider as I, which means they use similar ping as I. My friend Sherif has same provider and is living in same city, he is banned from those servers as well because of this subnet ban. We have friends for whom we'd like to introduce the game but it feels pointless since most likelythey are already banned from about 30 servers before they even download the game.

There are persons who are trying to do their best for this game and persons who are doing their best to kill the game.

This kind of bans makes no sense, they are set to me but I can bypass them if I want to. Not everyone can and that's why it affects on others. Why this kind of ban was placed? I have no idea, but it'sfucked up because it has so huge impact.

Hatefull community you say?

This community seems small enough that we could rally the people to simply play on servers not run by then if this is true?
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Yahoo on Saturday, July 02, 2016, 02:25:31 AM
Last time i played AA, i numbered the servers and i counted about 30 (+\-) servers from the same 2 clans, in a universe at that time, of 150 players why should assist allowed that? There were almost more servers than players. I said this 3 or 4 years ago, a clan should only be permitted 2 or 3 servers, one for pubbing and the other one to scrim/matches. 10 or 15 servers per clan only make sence for the providers.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Saturday, July 02, 2016, 03:16:33 AM
I agree that a big part of the active community is quite horrible. A lot of server admins get cocky, make their own rules that apply to others but not to themselves, kick and ban at their will for next to nothing and so on.
However, it is still their server and there is not much that can be done on Assist's side.


As for number of servers per clan - I think I've talked about it in the past - but it's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to control these numbers. Not all servers are clan servers. Some people have their own personal servers as well. If we made a rule that only 2 or 3 servers per clan were allowed, we might see that each member of that clan then has their own personal server.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: phuNkiii.ops on Saturday, July 02, 2016, 04:05:47 AM
Yea, its kinda ironic seeing so many servers and then low people online.. Kinda like "hey look, this game is totally dead" , think at current state 15-20 servers would be more than enough
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Possessed on Saturday, July 02, 2016, 20:34:11 PM
I brought a magazine which came with AA 2.3, I had a shit PC and dial-up connection, I enjoyed playing the training and then tried to go online but had trouble with PunkBuster and only had unprotected servers to play on, where years later I meet an old guy that used to hack as it was common in dat version, yea, there were hacking clans and hackers played together lol. By the time I got AA 2.3, the current version was already at 2.5 or 2.6, so I have been always late. After 2.3 died, Some friends and me moved to 2.6 and we even had a server there, but that time we were playing clean and even banning hackurs in our server, 2.6 died 1 or 2 years later, I played 2.8.5 for a while and also 2.5 with AA Deploy(currently 25assist), im here(2.5) since official servers terminated. I have ever thought what we could have if all those skilled guys used their knowledgment for something greater other than reputation in cheat sites and selfish acts.
 I got banned on Assist before I joined the team, interesting fact is that I dont know what was triggering my bans since I wasnt cheating lol, it was a hard time to argue with Spanky and co. I am not a coder as ELiZ, not a web dev and mapper as Spanky, not good in AA as Sergio, but Im fine with all I shared and all that I did even not having the proper skill for, this is my 7zipped history lol, wish I could write it better.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: svyatonmac on Monday, October 03, 2016, 19:40:34 PM
Just decided to drop by and leave my opinion.

I don't exactly know in which version I started, but I believe it was around 2005 and it was literally god sent - I'll explain...

The only computers we had in our household were Macs and while these computers were elegant and awesome, they had barely any games written for them. So when a friend of ours showed me this Free, Multiplayer, FPS with MAC compatibility I was totally blown away! Just like all the other kids spent days playing AA since it was literally the only game I could play, but I still loved it, especially due to realism and a more tactical approach rather than the reflex fast Counter Strike :style:

When the servers were shut down I was totally heartbroken and moreover AA3 totally lost the great concept of the game :shock:

A few years ago I somehow discovered Assist, but it's not the same anymore - not entirely sure why, maybe we just got too old for sheeet?  :cry:
Or maybe the fun was in discovering something new, whereas now everyone here is a veteran and knows the drill, but back in the days everything was new.
I don't know if there was much ghosting back in the day (don't think Skype existed yet), but it was quite fun scanning cameras of main viewpoints and looking at enemy position - something which Assist denies, perhaps it's fair but still :P

Dunno, maybe it's just me, but even most modern games don't appeal to me much anymore, they all look like poorly redrawn copies and no originality.
Ah I miss the Golden Age (2000-2010) with America's Army, Need for Speed, Grand Theft Auto, Ronaldinho, the world seemed more peaceful and at least I wasn't bothered much about the future...
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Spanky on Monday, October 03, 2016, 22:51:34 PM
Dunno, maybe it's just me, but even most modern games don't appeal to me much anymore, they all look like poorly redrawn copies and no originality.
Ah I miss the Golden Age (2000-2010) with America's Army, Need for Speed, Grand Theft Auto, Ronaldinho, the world seemed more peaceful and at least I wasn't bothered much about the future...
Well said, I agree.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -TJ on Tuesday, October 04, 2016, 05:10:06 AM
I started playing in 2006, my tracker from my 1st account (that I stull use today) started 28-09-2006. Not sure which version it was, but I loved it from the first moment. I remember playing on a very old computer, that could barely run any of the maps smooth.
Then I found out about JRTC Farm Raid, this map ran relatively smooth so I played that map a LOT. Not much later I bought a newer computer, so now I had a much better FPS and the game became even more fun to me. I met a whole lot of guys from [JAG] clan, and not much later I became a member. I played with these guys for a long long time. I had to play all nighters on a regular bases, because most of them are from the US. I was still in school so all nighters were no problem back then hehe.
After some time I got in some trouble with the leader and a few members, they started to accuse me of cheating more often and finally I decided to leave the clan (and a bunch of friends). It's kinda funny though, my new computer made me play a lot better and not much later the hackusations came up. I understand it a little bit though, they were the best clan at Farm and getting ur a$$ shot daily didn't make them happier. Eventually the leader got me banned for having 5/6 identical PB screenshots with AASA, identical screenshots at that time could be a sign of hacking, and for the AASA it was enough to give me a ban. I literally lost all the fun in this game because it was a BS ban, I never used anything to enhance my performance, but oh well, it is what it is. I appealed but I couldn't deliver proper proof to get rid of it.
Not much later I joined {FRJ} clan, also an active Farm clan but with better understanding of gaming and what is possible and what wasn't (or in other words, better players on average)
Not much later that POS AA3 came out, I was excited but after trying it I decided to stop playing. AA2 pretty much died out, AA3 was unplayable so here I was, not gaming anymore lol.
In the meanwhile I played BF3 and BF4, which was good fun, but it just doesn't match the feeling that I always had from AA2.

Then years later I found this website, and I found out there actually were still people playing it. I downloaded it, searched around for my account details, and got back into the game. It changed, not much maps are being played, but the average level of players is good. Coming back I was a bit rusty, didn't know all the keys but ey....I was having that AA fun again. I have been around for a few months now, and besides all the unnecessary drama I enjoy it everytime I play.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: General_alkos on Tuesday, October 04, 2016, 07:42:50 AM
I guess the only specific example I noticed (because if that inability to find a game on other maps) is not having the 203 rounds on Hospital. Was a good way to deal with door spam shooters, RPG campers and WWR campers. Again, I'm not sure if other maps have been modified because often the only games are the tired old Pipeline and Hospital.

Ultimately the largest issue here is the community is just plain awful and I don't want to waste my time with the total disrespect and unfriendliness.
Was a good way to deal with door spam shooters, RPG campers and WWR campers.


I do not know when I started playing but has a full of ---- of time.
I believe that in three nick about 10,000 hours of gameplay.I never counted either camp (hate camper)
brought into play dozens of players (some I did not need to introduce)!


once this was one community and now!


Bok all

Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Tuesday, October 04, 2016, 11:07:38 AM
I started playing in 2006, my tracker from my 1st account (that I stull use today) started 28-09-2006. Not sure which version it was, but I loved it from the first moment. I remember playing on a very old computer, that could barely run any of the maps smooth.
Then I found out about JRTC Farm Raid, this map ran relatively smooth so I played that map a LOT. Not much later I bought a newer computer, so now I had a much better FPS and the game became even more fun to me. I met a whole lot of guys from [JAG] clan, and not much later I became a member. I played with these guys for a long long time. I had to play all nighters on a regular bases, because most of them are from the US. I was still in school so all nighters were no problem back then hehe.
After some time I got in some trouble with the leader and a few members, they started to accuse me of cheating more often and finally I decided to leave the clan (and a bunch of friends). It's kinda funny though, my new computer made me play a lot better and not much later the hackusations came up. I understand it a little bit though, they were the best clan at Farm and getting ur a$$ shot daily didn't make them happier. Eventually the leader got me banned for having 5/6 identical PB screenshots with AASA, identical screenshots at that time could be a sign of hacking, and for the AASA it was enough to give me a ban. I literally lost all the fun in this game because it was a BS ban, I never used anything to enhance my performance, but oh well, it is what it is. I appealed but I couldn't deliver proper proof to get rid of it.
Not much later I joined {FRJ} clan, also an active Farm clan but with better understanding of gaming and what is possible and what wasn't (or in other words, better players on average)
Not much later that POS AA3 came out, I was excited but after trying it I decided to stop playing. AA2 pretty much died out, AA3 was unplayable so here I was, not gaming anymore lol.
In the meanwhile I played BF3 and BF4, which was good fun, but it just doesn't match the feeling that I always had from AA2.

Then years later I found this website, and I found out there actually were still people playing it. I downloaded it, searched around for my account details, and got back into the game. It changed, not much maps are being played, but the average level of players is good. Coming back I was a bit rusty, didn't know all the keys but ey....I was having that AA fun again. I have been around for a few months now, and besides all the unnecessary drama I enjoy it everytime I play.

I know quite a few of the  [JAG] guys, some are still around,  there pretty cool guys
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Gusso on Tuesday, October 04, 2016, 20:57:54 PM
Nice topic Spanky.

What I do remember is that I was a Paramedic and Firefighter working shifts
I had slept myself into a corner on my days off and could not sleep anymore.  Finally, I got myself a desktop and adsl. Logging on to the internet via landline had all the weird and fancy sounds that made you feel you had joined the space age. One day, logging on via Yahoo, I found a free game advertised called America's Army.

I breezed through the training ( to this day I recommend the medical training for wannabee's) until I got to the parachute jump and SF training. Nearly walked away  :P I believe the first map I joined was Bridge Crossing and as either my pc was so poor or the graphics were different, I could see the enemies black beanie sticking out above the pillars like a sore thumb. I started chatting via the keyboard and was amazed to find another South African playing.  John  and I made friends across the globe and the clan SASF was born. (all the kudos to John) then Jan who knew software and Sagi who was at another level.

I have made and still have friends that if I ever was to meet we would have a good couple of pints and a good laugh together due to this amazing game.

Life is short and has it's seasons.

There were always shits in this game who knew every spam in the book and as in the days where on Bridge at spawn if you did not hit the ground running the rpg's would nail you silly.

Has this game had it's season? Probably
It seems to be way to tough for the many I have introduced but yet it has everything to survive for many years to come. Apart from the recent Ddos attacks which I believe will pass, the current piss and vinegar ingame  as well as the sheer disrespect towards players by few will always chase away those trying to get from 10 honour to 20. Having said that I have crossed the subject with those that I have introduced as to why they left and the answer has always been the same .... it's just too hard lol.

To the AA Team a big thank you for the trip albeit nowhere over for me yet!
To all the friends I have made thank you for being part of this journey I make through this life
To people like Merlin who have assisted me in getting my server up and running a big  :up:

If, I should die before this game, put a gravestone on the map I loved next to my friend and old clan mate Koen   :cool:

Scrap  :style:
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -TJ on Wednesday, October 05, 2016, 03:21:45 AM
I know quite a few of the  [JAG] guys, some are still around,  there pretty cool guys
Yea most of them are awesome, kinda lost contact with pretty much all of them.
Do you also know guys from {FRJ} ? Or does Torrentthief ring a bell? He was such a funny guy.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -iResis.Wolfjee+ on Wednesday, October 05, 2016, 03:23:30 AM
This topic hits me in the feelings man.

i started in 2005  with a friend and he didnt play so much.
after i played more and more, met very nice people in the game.

First real clan i joined was Quick Reflexes after i went to Good vs Evil where i also met very nice and fun people, i sometimes catch myself looking true my buddylist and realize the nice people who where playing this game and last time they played was 2013...or whatever

After that i skipped around true clans to find my spot and found HT and after sexy gaming.
I have alot of good memories with both clans

The reason why iam not playing is simple, i played for 11 years and i needed some change.
Iam still here once in a while.

Greetings Wolfjee from The Netherlands!
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: ~=W!CK!D=~ on Wednesday, October 05, 2016, 21:06:52 PM
Yea most of them are awesome, kinda lost contact with pretty much all of them.
Do you also know guys from {FRJ} ? Or does Torrentthief ring a bell? He was such a funny guy.

Hey Tj if u have a facebook check em out, they might be by invite only, if so pm ur real name I'll have striker approve you to join in, if u wanted to chat with the old fellows

https://m.facebook.com/groups/198992118717?ref=bookmarks
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -TJ on Thursday, October 06, 2016, 08:00:44 AM
Hey Tj if u have a facebook check em out, they might be by invite only, if so pm ur real name I'll have striker approve you to join in, if u wanted to chat with the old fellows

https://m.facebook.com/groups/198992118717?ref=bookmarks
Thanks, have been a member there for a while. But I got frustrated because of what happend in the passed an called the leader some bad words. So don't think I'll join again lol.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Eversmann122 on Thursday, October 06, 2016, 21:12:33 PM
Ahh the good ole days... anyway been around since 04-05 plenty of the oldies prolly remember better than me since i was mostly a trouble maker lol. Been so long i dont even remember all the clans i was in or started over the past 11-12 years, but i do remember !mp@cT, -[SoA], {S-x-F} (SealXFactor will always my most beloved AA 2.5 clan lol) and of course cant forget AK4. I miss the old shotgun tourny's i hosted and other clans hosted.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: [BBR]Alakarr on Saturday, April 01, 2017, 22:17:41 PM
The thread has been dead for a little while, but I just had to post up when I found it.

I started AA at 1.9 in 2003. It was the first online, PVP game I had played to that point, and being an Army vet I loved it. Realistic speed, no respawns, no powerups; the game was so different from any other FPS game. After playing a few month's by myself, I joined my first and only clan in the game; Broadband Rangers [BBR]. It was a great group of people that became real friends. At our height we were running three servers and had 70+ members. The servers were full nearly 24/7 and I got to know people from alot of other clans. It was a real community back then.

By the time 2.3 came out I was with the closed Beta team doing game testing and a member of the Alpha group working with the Devs. It was great having such a inside position and having some input on the game design.

Around when 2.7 came out cracks were starting to show. The Army started pushing more and more resources over for development of 3.0, but very few of the Alpha or Beta teams were allowed to help on it.  The Devs were really getting stressed trying to support v2 and write an all new game for v3. 2.8 and the patches were not up to the usual standards. v3 was pushed out by the Army, even though it wasn't nearly ready. The day it was released, everybody on the Alpha and Beta teams were notified by email that we were no longer needed. We also found out that the entire development team had been fired.

Was a really sad ending to a wonderful game and community.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: LEEFFM on Sunday, April 02, 2017, 02:50:24 AM
AA has always been a love/hate relationship for me. I think we all love the classic days and funnily enough, those are all different time periods. We came in at different times, knowing different people, enjoying different servers and different crews on different versions. But we all share the same fondness for a specific period. The way it used to be.

It's almost heartbreaking, the poor timing I've seen in this game. I came into this game around when 2.6 was released, maybe a bit before. This was a weird time. All the anti-cheat sites were still popular but MD5 checks didn't exist and you could do crazy easy cheats and only get caught if the server admins were lucky enough to get a screenshot. I met Crusade just as he was starting to take off on modding and hacking, bringing back a lot of the old school coding to life that was pioneered by PAS clan and Rifle over at the Hazard AA Tracker. I had learned about modding and loved to run my own server and looking to make it better, I found out about custom maps and that's when I met BlueBlaster. Both him and me were scraping together the remnants of the custom maps once created by enthusiastic people at aa-maps.net. We were too late to work with them but instead just browsed through the forum which was more of a graveyard. This is just a tidbit of my personal history with AA and the great people I've met through it. I say the timing is heartbreaking because, knowing what I know and seeing the timeline unfold, I was always too late. Finding out about cool shit after someone else was done with it. I've come across so many super talented people over the years I've been involved with AA. It's impossible because it's gone but I often wonder what would have happened had the timing been right and a lot of us gotten together to create something amazing. Brilliant website coders and designers, creative UScript, LUA and C++ coders, 3d modelers, countless talented mappers, tons of eager people willing to learn. It's been such a waste. Looking back, a lot of these characters quickly burned out. I'm sure they all had various reasons but I can't help but think that given what we know and have today, if that same enthusiasm and knowledge they had 10 years ago, if that was around today... wow.

I don't know what it is about this game but it's just heartbreaking and frustrating. I miss the way things used to be. I am disappointed in the waste of potential due to timing.

What do you miss? What do you wish was different?

 i Could see my AIMod being something people would be interested in if/when i get it functional but i am very busy lately and haven't been doing much modding or anything besides sleeping and working for that matter lol, but if there was anyone else that knows UnrealScript that wanted to help i can release the code i have so far.

I am not an original player my BattleTracker account http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=853312 (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=853312)
is the only AA2 account ive ever had so i dont know how things used to be but i do like the game and would like to see more people playing but i dont really see that happening. adding things to the game could attract more attention to the game maybe people would come back and new players would come in, New gamemodes could be added new maps could be added, if enough skilled people wanted to they could port the game to UDK and release it for free on steam. the main issue with any of that is the lack of people who have the skills,people who want to learn the skills, or people that have time to learn the skills to do any of this then of course actually doing it. another thing that could help is people actually suggesting things on the forums that they would like to see in the game or in mods. i dont really see anything useful in the suggestions Vanoke has some maps hes been working on and thats about it. if i ever saw suggestions for mods to the game i would atleast attempt to make them lol all i ever really see is complaining about hospital and other random crap.

* Start Suggesting things that could make the game better in the forums.
* Be willing to go into mod servers and help test the Mods.
* Learn to Mod learn to make maps learn to model new weapon/characters.
* Advertise the game anywhere you can.

I am more then willing to help people get started modding if anyone ever wanted to, the more people there are modding the more people there are to spitball ideas and learn with.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Possessed on Sunday, April 02, 2017, 11:52:30 AM
The community actually lacks of ppl capable of turning ideas/projects into reality, also theres a lack of trust.
Those that are capable or at least can make it, are taking care of its own stuff/life, the game is stuck and I bet it will be for now and for the next months(I'm talking positve, but id say years :P).
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Sunday, April 02, 2017, 12:03:12 PM
The community actually lacks of ppl capable of turning ideas/projects into reality, also theres a lack of trust.
Those that are capable or at least can make it, are taking care of its own stuff/life, the game is stuck and I bet it will be for now and for the next months(I'm talking positve, but id say years :P).

It lacks ppl. so there for it lacks every thing required. what would help would be leadership and consistant leadership. It needs rules and the same rules for evetyone. Not rules for one and they change for another.
It needs leader who will adhere to a higher level than the average user. If you dont have a consistant foundation you have nothing to build on. So it starts at the top. And once the top gets the foundation right. The rest will fall into place. You need barriers for children to keep them in line. So get rid of the sarchastic leaders. Thats always gonna help.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: LEEFFM on Sunday, April 02, 2017, 19:13:18 PM
It lacks ppl. so there for it lacks every thing required. what would help would be leadership and consistant leadership. It needs rules and the same rules for evetyone. Not rules for one and they change for another.
It needs leader who will adhere to a higher level than the average user. If you dont have a consistant foundation you have nothing to build on. So it starts at the top. And once the top gets the foundation right. The rest will fall into place. You need barriers for children to keep them in line. So get rid of the sarchastic leaders. Thats always gonna help.

Those "Sarchastic Leaders" (you spelled Sarcastic wrong btw.) are the only reason the game has lasted this long without them the few people that are still here would have been gone a long time ago. there is a need for more people in the game which once again the best way i can think to get people to play is to advertise the game and the assist software anywhere you can and for the community to come up with ideas for things that could be changed, mods, etc. and of course as Possessed has stated even with ideas there is still a lack of skilled people who can actually making the ideas a reality and part of that is because the people with the skills are busy with real life with jobs and making sure they have what they need.

on a side note im making some progress on my AIMod im gonna work on it some more and maybe see if spanky wants to make another video :P
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Monday, April 03, 2017, 03:45:20 AM
So you stated the blatantly obvious. Are you saying dont say a word against the staff just cause the run it? possseswed is laughing at me behind my back knowing the report button doesnt work. He doesnt let me know, even though He is aware that I was reporting. as he quoted the reports. No we need consistensy from leader or there no leaders at all. Maybe you think incinsistensy is fine I dont. You seem to think spelling error is worthy of note. So I wont be looking for advice from your shallow thinking.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: -Vegeta- on Monday, April 03, 2017, 19:46:52 PM
Wicked your old before your time. Your jokes are funny to you. Everyones laughing at me nice happy for ya. Drival man thats all you have
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: ImSmokin on Tuesday, April 04, 2017, 15:25:43 PM
I for sure miss the old days, I downloaded when v1.3 came out and played religiously until 2.8.5.

I miss the old twl and clan matches, the option of many servers on all the levels. I miss how the community used to be :(
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: Koden on Tuesday, April 04, 2017, 15:51:21 PM
I for sure miss the old days, I downloaded when v1.3 came out and played religiously until 2.8.5.

I miss the old twl and clan matches, the option of many servers on all the levels. I miss how the community used to be :(

Yap. This game has been live and kicking for a good decade.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: bRU$seLs.2004- on Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 16:58:06 PM
since 2004 and yes it was a really great time! Many good people with allot of fun in Ts.
They really have to do a remake, what kind of games are playing right now?.. if you play..
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: robbinsdw on Monday, July 17, 2017, 08:41:15 AM
I started playing when the first released Operations... so around 1.1 I believe - a buddy of mine got me interested, and I remembered I struggled with the PC spec requirements for a while. My original account was hacked at some point by a fellow clan member at the time (found out later), so I had to start my honor and training all over the time. I remember the first map I played was Tunnel, and spent a lot of my original hours playing Mount McKenna, Farm Raid and Bridge.

Towards the end, I was obsessed with Weapons Cache, then Weapons Cache SE... Always loved Bridge, Pipeline and of course all of their SF versions. SF Hospital was really the only "SF" map I enjoyed and then I moved on. Glad to be back - trying to get my friend who used to play, to get back into it, but it's hard when your not a kid anymore, and bedtime isn't 4:00AM like it used to be.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: teddy_grizzly_bear on Monday, July 17, 2017, 10:29:57 AM
I certainly find myself missing the way things used to be. I started around 12 years ago now.

I remember being able to pick any map you wanted and even having a choice of servers on almost all maps there were. At one time I was in a SF Courtyard whoring clan and I remember there was always servers on the map, last I played it hardly ever saw any playtime.

And I surely remember playing AA all night. Being from Europe, it was clear I should have gone to sleep hours ago when the US brethren started going to sleep (even though their time was 8-10h behind mine)... Oh those were the times. I even remember playing a 12h session (my longest I do believe) once (in fact it shows here (http://battletracker.com/index.php?page=AAOPlayerStats&pid=541510), too)

With that said, this is an old game and I would say that we're lucky we still have a player base at all.
Title: Re: Anyone else miss the way things used to be?
Post by: robbinsdw on Monday, July 17, 2017, 12:48:57 PM
With that said, this is an old game and I would say that we're lucky we still have a player base at all.

Well said - I was surprised to see the support was still there. Great job to the AAO25 Assist team for keeping it alive - it's hard to grow the community though with the younger generations only interested in instant respawns, rocket packs, and running up walls...

I am glad to be a part of this community now, and hope it holds on a while longer...